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Posted by trancaholic on Apr-10-2005 17:34:

Picotto @ Avalon review

Ok, Mauro @ Avalon. I've heard better sets by Mauro, but still think that he played an above average set. Nice tracks, including a lot of new ones that I need to get a hold of. It seemed to me that he's getting softer and softer these days, though, with small bits of the set not really doing it for me. Furthermore, even though I know he can mix creatively, it seems as he is more often than not going for a quick fade, or even a direct jump from one track to the other. But the awesome electro sounds and the hard beats (of the harder tracks) all made up for these minor quirks, I think. In addition, I thought it was hilarious to see the confusion on the faces of the podium dancers when Mauro went into one of his psycho-electro-no-beat-undanceable periods. Further, I thought it was very endearing to see Mauro make "boow"-sounds in tune to the music while trying to make clever "got ya there"-faces to the audience. An attempt that failed miserably because of the big smile on his face.

Some random questions that, for some reason, popped into my mind during the evening:

- Why do they put VIP-bracelets on *everyone* at the door? And why were *nobody* checked when entereing the VIP-area? Some kind of complementary ego-boosting service???

- I had carefully added my full name to the velvet-guestlist before going there. When I came to the guestlist guy, I said "Hi. I'm on the velvet-guestlist.". He looked appraisingly at me, and then, with no further discussion, nodded knowingly and handed me a "reduced"-ticket. Why would a great wizard of such awesome clairvoyant powers choose to work for a joint like Avalon?

- Why don't Avalon hire a bunch of eskimos with harpoons, to drag away all the non-dancing elements from the dancefloor? I swear to God, about 30-40% of the dancefloor was filled with people who were either smoking, making out, chatting, staring, or (worst) sleeping. What's the matter with such people?

- (Closely related.) Why are areas such as narrow staircases, exits, and restroom entrances such attractive places to have long debates, preferrably in big groups, on whether to go back or forth?

- Why would anybody pay $25+ to be at an event like this, only to try to pick up?

- Why do people wear sunglasses in a club? It's like 80-year olds having sex with condoms.

- Why don't Avalon invest in some decent air-conditioning? That room was extremely hot, and the air was just hanging there. You had to dance constantly to keep in contact with sub 100 degrees air.

- What is it that automatically grants someone with a glow stick plenty of space on a dancefloor? They're not dangerous, right?

- Is there something more annoying, than guys pushing through the crowded dancefloor by using their girlfriend as a bumper?

- Why does everyone hate Avalon?

Maybe I should go to the park to relax...


Posted by tatgirl on Apr-10-2005 17:43:

Re: Picotto @ Avalon review

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
- Why don't Avalon hire a bunch of eskimos with harpoons, to drag away all the non-dancing elements from the dancefloor?


OMG, tooooooo funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by mcb001982 on Apr-10-2005 17:53:

Hello!

well shall i start with saying that this was my first experience with avalon "thanks dave", it was shall we say.........decent, it wasn't horrible, although it was not anything for me to write home about, i have seen picotto a hand full of times "where he has been awesome" and i would have to say also it seems that he is beginning to loose his edge and becoming soft. i would have to say out of his 4 hour set i enjoyed about an hour of it, he was playing some really nice tracks with great build up and then throwing them down......but those were few and far between. it was nice to meet you joe "bitchboynyc"...for like 4 seconds.... hope to meet more of you guys soon

so in the end, i hope that pvd is better next weekend


Posted by fr0st on Apr-10-2005 19:02:

LOL avalon strikes again.... To funny.


Posted by LuNaSeA on Apr-10-2005 19:12:

Re: Picotto @ Avalon review

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic

- I had carefully added my full name to the velvet-guestlist before going there. When I came to the guestlist guy, I said "Hi. I'm on the velvet-guestlist.". He looked appraisingly at me, and then, with no further discussion, nodded knowingly and handed me a "reduced"-ticket. Why would a great wizard of such awesome clairvoyant powers choose to work for a joint like Avalon?

- Why do people wear sunglasses in a club? It's like 80-year olds having sex with condoms.



HAAHAHAHAHAHAHA that post was fucking hilarious. nice one man!!!


Posted by Vlad on Apr-10-2005 19:24:

Re: Picotto @ Avalon review

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
- Why do people wear sunglasses in a club? It's like 80-year olds having sex with condoms.


I wear sunglasses to clubs to relieve pressure on my eyes from the lights. My astigmatism stresses me out as it is, the lights wear me out like crazy.


Posted by Sveta on Apr-10-2005 20:08:

Re: Picotto @ Avalon review

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
- Why don't Avalon hire a bunch of eskimos with harpoons, to drag away all the non-dancing elements from the dancefloor? I swear to God, about 30-40% of the dancefloor was filled with people who were either smoking, making out, chatting, staring, or (worst) sleeping. What's the matter with such people?

- Why do people wear sunglasses in a club? It's like 80-year olds having sex with condoms.

- Why don't Avalon invest in some decent air-conditioning? That room was extremely hot, and the air was just hanging there. You had to dance constantly to keep in contact with sub 100 degrees air.

- What is it that automatically grants someone with a glow stick plenty of space on a dancefloor? They're not dangerous, right?

- Is there something more annoying, than guys pushing through the crowded dancefloor by using their girlfriend as a bumper?

- Why does everyone hate Avalon?

Maybe I should go to the park to relax...



Hahahaha. this is the best party report.
Yeah, they have to get a new AC system but you never know what is better --no AC at Avalon or Ac at Crobar that freezes you to death. hahaha


Posted by colibri on Apr-10-2005 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by mcb001982
"thanks dave"


it was a funight in spite of mauro's monotonouset ...


Posted by BitchBoyNYC on Apr-10-2005 21:55:

I had a good time. I enjoyed the set alot. A little softer than I expected but overall no real complaints. His set at Space for WMC was better than this one. He had me awaiting a tremendous drop of a bassline after a build up on many songs, which didn't seem to hit the mark when they were dropped. Will def go and see him again though!!!


Posted by BitchBoyNYC on Apr-10-2005 23:12:

quote:
it was nice to meet you joe "bitchboynyc"...for like 4 seconds.... hope to meet more of you guys soon



Ditto bro. You'll mee the rest of the crew at PVD. You're in for some good times, hope you're ready!!!!!!!


Posted by mcb001982 on Apr-10-2005 23:48:

quote:
Originally posted by BitchBoyNYC
Ditto bro. You'll mee the rest of the crew at PVD. You're in for some good times, hope you're ready!!!!!!!




Posted by trancaholic on Apr-11-2005 00:15:

quote:
Originally posted by fr0st
LOL avalon strikes again.... To funny.

Yeah, well, it seems to me that Avalon itself cannot really be blamed for the horrors that take place there. Sure, the lack of air-conditioning should be addressed, but the main offenders are those absolutely despicable individuals that form part of the crowd. Don't know if it's because Avalon is in every goddamn tourist guide that they come there, or if there's some kind of secret society hell-bent on preventing the potential of the place to be realized. In any case, I can't see how Avalon can easily do something pro-active to get a better crowd???

quote:
Originally posted by LuNaSeA
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHA that post was fucking hilarious. nice one man!!!

Thank you. My friends say that I'm fun when I'm agitated, maybe that came across here. I guess I've repaid you for your Sven Vath and Judge Jules review then

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
I wear sunglasses to clubs to relieve pressure on my eyes from the lights. My astigmatism stresses me out as it is, the lights wear me out like crazy.

Gee, I didn't know there could be a sound reason for this. I've learned something today. I'm usually bringing a minimum of accessories to a club, as it's a hazardous environment for anything that cannot survive being run over by a steamroller, so I couldn't understand why people would risk their expensive sunglasses. Is it the rapidly blinking lights that stress you out, or is it also steady lights (street lights, daylight, etc.)???

@BitchBoyNYC: Initially I tried being on the lookout for someone in grey pants and a black shirt. However, I'm colour-blind, so all green, red, and brown pants looked grey to me as well, and there were far too many of you guys, for it to be safe to ask each of you whether you were the "bitch boy"...
Maybe I'll see you some other time.


Posted by fr0st on Apr-11-2005 00:40:

Avalon's sound system is really what gets me.. And the way the pack crowds like no other club.. Yeah i suppose the AC is a big issue for me aswell..


Posted by PvDoBseSSioN on Apr-11-2005 02:31:

well good night overall, got there at like 1:20 because there was only 1 lane open on da GWB and parking was the BIGGEST BITCH!!! but i got in just in time for mauro to come on. i was expecting alot from him that is why i was a little dissapointed with his set.... he started off slow then picked it up at around 3, he played from 1:30-5AM. I thought he would play harder but i guess he wasnt feeling the vibe last nite since the club was pretty much half empty.Eddie Lee was being an ass to him and kept trying to kick him off?? The only 2 TA's i saw was BitchBoyNYC and DOOMBOT (?? i think)
well anyway Mauro played some good tunes and kept the crowd going most of the time. it wasnt packed at all which was good so there was room to have a good time.

FAVORITE TUNES:

David Guetta - Stay
Coldplay - Clocks (Dont know what mix)

I left @ 5 cause i was tired and mauro was about done, i got him to sign my flyer i didnt get one of the Meganite shirts he was throwin out but i did get 2 keychain lanyards

he will be better @ privilege when i see him

Mauro Picotto @ Avalon 4.9.05 PICS












Posted by DJ Eddie Lee on Apr-11-2005 05:02:

My very first post.....

I had a great time warming up the room for Mauro and hopefully a lot of people had fun. I've been reading a few things bashing our club in particular and I guess I took offense to that. Let me begin by saying NO NIGHTCLUB IS PERFECT. There are bound to be knuckleheads, meatheads, morons, etc, that take away from the vibe of every nightclub. That's just how it goes. Don't complain so much! Come out, hear the music, do a wiggle, and make the best out it.

And for the record, I DID NOT AND DO NOT bug any of our guest DJs for more playing time. No one has spent more time in that DJ booth than myself and it honestly doesn't make any sense for me to steal time away from our guests. As a matter of fact, I absolutely encourage every single one of them to play as long as they want. I've played with Mauro 5 times now and know his M.O. quite well. He likes to play longer sets.....

Also, I'd like to clarify something about our sound system. When our stock mixer, the Rane 2016, is being used, our sound system is excellent. However, 99.9% of DJs prefer not to use this mixer and request something else, usually an Allen and Heath or Pioneer DJM600. The Allen and Heath is phenomenal but has low output, which causes some DJs to distort each channel to try to compensate. This in turn can lead to some sound trouble. The Pioneer mixer is perhaps THE WORST sounding mixer ever made and is essentially a plastic toy that no nightclub should ever install.....But unfortunately, this is the mixer that is most requested and hence you get subpar sound. Bad Boy Bill, Mauro, Ferry, Tiesto, to name a few, for some unexplicable reason request the pioneer.

Cheers,

Ed


Posted by PvDoBseSSioN on Apr-11-2005 05:36:

aiight dont get me wrong, u do seem like a cool guy but from my point of view it just seemed like u were telling him to wrap it up, sorry if i got it confused.... and about avalon in general, it can be good and it can be bad just like anything else, there are just a couple of things that need to be tweeked...

- Cooling system (Tiesto night was the worst, i felt like i had lost 5 pounds from sweating so much)
- Sound System is decent but could be better

other than that its not half bad, but i (along with most other TA's) don't like the vibe over there... mostly because of the crowd that is usually there (i dont wanna b dancing next to like 20 60 year old men), fights usually break out between ppl and it happens all the time......

Avalon has potential, and i have been there many times so i kno, but its just not one of the top clubs in NYC (yet)

ill c u for Christopher Lawrence on da 23rd (hopefully ill b able to get a pic with him )


Posted by fr0st on Apr-11-2005 05:45:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eddie Lee
My very first post.....

I had a great time warming up the room for Mauro and hopefully a lot of people had fun. I've been reading a few things bashing our club in particular and I guess I took offense to that. Let me begin by saying NO NIGHTCLUB IS PERFECT. There are bound to be knuckleheads, meatheads, morons, etc, that take away from the vibe of every nightclub. That's just how it goes. Don't complain so much! Come out, hear the music, do a wiggle, and make the best out it.

And for the record, I DID NOT AND DO NOT bug any of our guest DJs for more playing time. No one has spent more time in that DJ booth than myself and it honestly doesn't make any sense for me to steal time away from our guests. As a matter of fact, I absolutely encourage every single one of them to play as long as they want. I've played with Mauro 5 times now and know his M.O. quite well. He likes to play longer sets.....

Also, I'd like to clarify something about our sound system. When our stock mixer, the Rane 2016, is being used, our sound system is excellent. However, 99.9% of DJs prefer not to use this mixer and request something else, usually an Allen and Heath or Pioneer DJM600. The Allen and Heath is phenomenal but has low output, which causes some DJs to distort each channel to try to compensate. This in turn can lead to some sound trouble. The Pioneer mixer is perhaps THE WORST sounding mixer ever made and is essentially a plastic toy that no nightclub should ever install.....But unfortunately, this is the mixer that is most requested and hence you get subpar sound. Bad Boy Bill, Mauro, Ferry, Tiesto, to name a few, for some unexplicable reason request the pioneer.

Cheers,

Ed


Sorry avalons sound is shit period. How do the other clubs make due with dj's requesting crap muixers?. It should be tuned properly all the time, there is no excuse for ringing ears for 3 days after a event w/ earplugs... And the a/c system, whats the excuse for that? Crowds I can ignore, as that really isnt the clubs fault.. But poor A/C and a bad sound system is no go. Also avalon likes to oversell events, and im sure a lot of people on here can vouch for that and how unsafe that club has been at times..


Posted by tatgirl on Apr-11-2005 07:16:

quote:
Originally posted by PvDOBseSSioN
aiight dont get me wrong, u do seem like a cool guy but from my point of view it just seemed like u were telling him to wrap it up, sorry if i got it confused.


OMG, I can't believe you ASSUMED what was being said between 2 people based on what you saw from a distance, and not what you heard firsthand, and then posted it as 'fact' on a message board...

Respect to Eddie Lee for the clarification.


Posted by mcb001982 on Apr-11-2005 10:48:




nice pic of myself and colibri, i am wearing the grey shirt and he is in the orange


Posted by vtec junkie on Apr-11-2005 11:32:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eddie Lee

Also, I'd like to clarify something about our sound system. When our stock mixer, the Rane 2016, is being used, our sound system is excellent. However, 99.9% of DJs prefer not to use this mixer and request something else, usually an Allen and Heath or Pioneer DJM600. The Allen and Heath is phenomenal but has low output, which causes some DJs to distort each channel to try to compensate. This in turn can lead to some sound trouble. The Pioneer mixer is perhaps THE WORST sounding mixer ever made and is essentially a plastic toy that no nightclub should ever install.....But unfortunately, this is the mixer that is most requested and hence you get subpar sound. Bad Boy Bill, Mauro, Ferry, Tiesto, to name a few, for some unexplicable reason request the pioneer.

Cheers,

Ed


Thats so true. The first time I went to Avalon was NYE for Sasha two years ago and the system was mint....Sasha was using the Rane. But the second time I went for Ferry the system was total garbage. I never could understand why some of the best DJs out there are so fucking scared to use a rotary mixer.


Posted by PvDoBseSSioN on Apr-11-2005 13:17:

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
OMG, I can't believe you ASSUMED what was being said between 2 people based on what you saw from a distance, and not what you heard firsthand, and then posted it as 'fact' on a message board...

Respect to Eddie Lee for the clarification.


well what would u think if all u saw was eddie lee showing mauro his watch and pointing at the time like 3 times, and then making hand gestures telling him to wrap it up just makes it seem that way


Posted by tatgirl on Apr-11-2005 13:44:

Maybe he coulda been pointing out the time to him to tell him 'yo buddy- you're gonna miss your flight if u don't head to the airport now'?
If his set was disappointing anyways, no big loss.


Posted by PvDoBseSSioN on Apr-11-2005 14:00:

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
Maybe he coulda been pointing out the time to him to tell him 'yo buddy- you're gonna miss your flight if u don't head to the airport now'?
If his set was disappointing anyways, no big loss.


LoL haha yo buddy u suck go home


Posted by verndogs on Apr-11-2005 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by PvDOBseSSioN
well what would u think if all u saw was eddie lee showing mauro his watch and pointing at the time like 3 times, and then making hand gestures telling him to wrap it up just makes it seem that way


vidz or stfu


Posted by trancaholic on Apr-11-2005 15:19:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eddie Lee
I had a great time warming up the room for Mauro

LOL. That comment cracked me up, considering the issues of the lack of an A/C.

Anyway, it's nice to see that you actually care about what the TAs think. I really appreciate that! Hope your boss cares as well.
But bad sounds aside, which seems to be the DJs' fault, you guys seriously need to do something about the heat in there - especially if you're going to continue to pack people so aggressively. Second, you might want to start doing some work for gathering a better crowd. I mean, you get someone like Picotto to NYC, and then you don't even tell Time Out??? Further, your webpage works like shit. I signed up for the guest-list and was told that I would recieve a confirmation mail. Never happened. Similarly with posting events. Your "upcoming events" page is not really, like, totally current. And your DJ profiles page is a good idea - if it were kept up to date. Picotto's is a joke. It even contains information that never was true. Working on your page description might also help people finding it. Try googling for "avalon nightclub nyc", for instance. The page doesn't even show up among the first ten links - nor among the sponsored links!


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