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Canada is the most corrupt country in the West

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/groupaction/

^^^
that's just the tip of the iceberg


The sad reality is that Canada has become a banana republic.

I like how you back-up your thread title with absolutely nothing. The "tip of the iceberg"-comment is impressive in it's isolation from evidence as well.

Hey wtf...i just posted a link a second ago its from the year 2000..and Trancaholic the bad news is the nordic countries come out tops...shadow posted this in a different thread and i replied...

The Link

^^^^ Always be critical of what ShadoWolf claims.

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Originally posted by zig Hey wtf...i just posted a link a second ago its from the year 2000..and Trancaholic the bad news is the nordic countries come out tops...shadow posted this in a different thread and i replied... The Link

Ok i got this the wrong way around....Nordic countries come out tops for little or no corruption....being on top of the list means little corruption being bottom...well that aint so good...

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Originally posted by trancaholic ^^^^ Always be critical of what ShadoWolf claims.

I was a bit surprised auctually about Canada,and thats why i decided to verify it.....and read it wrong....ow well...i should have known better...my instinct was telling me one thing and then when i read the chart.....i said Cor Blimey its true....idiot

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Originally posted by trancaholic ^^^^ Always be critical of what ShadoWolf claims.

Except for the Muslim invasion of Europe of course ... you can never trust those invading Muslims

I have it from a good source that their fleet is already amassing off the coast of Normandy and are preparing the higgins boats.

http://www.ctv.ca/generic/WebSpecia...orship_scandal/

http://www.gomery.ca/en/index.asp

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4429231.stm

as trancaholic pointed out in the other thread, its slightly ironic that the guy that is having an italian flag, thinks canada is currupt

I mean, no one ever heard about the italian maffia almost running the country?

btw, shadowolf, cant you somehow prove how this is the muslims fault?

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Originally posted by St_Andrew as trancaholic pointed out in the other thread, its slightly ironic that the guy that is having an italian flag, thinks canada is currupt I mean, no one ever heard about the italian maffia almost running the country? btw, shadowolf, cant you somehow prove how this is the muslims fault?

They probably dont hear about those news stories on the Italian TV stations

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Originally posted by George Smiley They probably dont hear about those news stories on the Italian TV stations

No, true, cause italian TV is all about stupid games and underdressed good looking girls!

I mean, i wouldnt care about the mafia either if i had TV shows like that

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Originally posted by George Smiley They probably dont hear about those news stories on the Italian TV stations

Exactly dont forget who owns all those TV stations.....

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Originally posted by occrider Except for the Muslim invasion of Europe of course ... you can never trust those invading Muslims I have it from a good source that their fleet is already amassing off the coast of Normandy and are preparing the higgins boats.

Perhaps the Barbary Pirates are going back on tour?

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf http://www.ctv.ca/generic/WebSpecia...orship_scandal/ http://www.gomery.ca/en/index.asp http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4429231.stm

Brilliant! More sources on the same thing. Yes, there's a corruption scandal in Canada. Where's your evidence that this is "just the tip of the iceberg", that "Canada has become a banana republic", and that "Canada is the most corrupt country in the West"?
As you can probably(?) deduce from the answers in this thread, there's not a whole lot of respect for your hypotheses in this sub-forum. These gargantuan and undocumented jumps to outrageous conclusions are the reason why.

shut up, shut up...

its the muslims fault|

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Originally posted by biznology shut up, shut up... its the muslims fault|

The corporate lobbyists and oil industry shills must have migrated North for Canada to become so corrupt.

"Die, corrupt infidels!!!"






edit: By the way, what exactly are the countries of the west? I wonder if the fact that we're South from Rio Grande de-westernises us. It would be cowardice if Latin American countries challenged Canada on a dispute of what's the most corrupt country. Most countries (if not all) would defeat Canada by far.

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Originally posted by trancaholic Brilliant! More sources on the same thing. Yes, there's a corruption scandal in Canada. Where's your evidence that this is "just the tip of the iceberg", that "Canada has become a banana republic", and that "Canada is the most corrupt country in the West"? As you can probably(?) deduce from the answers in this thread, there's not a whole lot of respect for your hypotheses in this sub-forum. These gargantuan and undocumented jumps to outrageous conclusions are the reason why.

You have to bare in mind that SW is a staunch opponate of the ruling Liberal Party. He's about as right wing as a Canadian can get. He's probably pretty excited about the current scandal as it represents an opportunity for the right wing party in Canada to sieze power if an election were held today. I'm sure the thought of a Conservative (right wing party) government gives him a tremendous hard on since we've not had a right wing party in power here since the mid-nineties. At any rate, you hit it on the head, there is no evidence that this is part of broader systemic corruption. Additionally, what SW fails to mention is that the man who has given the evidence upon which the attached stories are based is also charged with several Criminal Code offences for which his trial will commence in the near future.... could it be that some of his testomony is meant to deflect attention from himself?

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Originally posted by Lira "Die, corrupt infidels!!!" edit: By the way, what exactly are the countries of the west? I wonder if the fact that we're South from Rio Grande de-westernises us. It would be cowardice if Latin American countries challenged Canada on a dispute of what's the most corrupt country. Most countries (if not all) would defeat Canada by far.

That's a great picture of Jean! He's our most ass-kickin' Prime Minister ever.... he actually disarmed a knife weilding man who broke into the Prime Minister's residence and choked a protestor to the ground when physically confronted.

I would suggest that generally speaking, when people refer to "the West" they are refering to Western Europe, the USA, and Canada. Really, the industriallized economic powers. I think you're right... the Rio Grand is the southern limit to "The West" in the Americas, The Mediterranian/Ageian Seas in Europe, the Pacific is the western boundry and the former iron curtain would be the eastern. Despite your hemisphere you are not "The West" and nobody hates you as being part of that non-discript group.

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Originally posted by Lira "Die, corrupt infidels!!!"

HHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAH...oh my God..hahahahahahah...btw its a mulsim plot to take over canada...first immigrate...take control of the taxi cabs...and the country is ours.

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Originally posted by tamk HHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAH...oh my God..hahahahahahah...btw its a mulsim plot to take over canada...first immigrate...take control of the taxi cabs...and the country is ours.

Don't forget the dollar stores...

FYI, if you ever notice all the dollar stores are closed get the fuck out of town because you know a terrorist attack is coming.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Don't forget the dollar stores... FYI, if you ever notice all the dollar stores are closed get the fuck out of town because you know a terrorist attack is coming.

Heh... I always thought is was the Pizza parlors that I was to keep an eye out on.

As for the corruption in the Canadian Federal Government, heck the West (of Canada, that is), has known about it for years. The only reason the Liberals are kept in power is thanks to the apathy in the East (sans Bloc Quebecois, of course) -they have been satisfied with the Liberals for so long that that is all they are used to. There seems to be a general fear of shaking the boat a bit with a new government.

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Originally posted by Sykonee Heh... I always thought is was the Pizza parlors that I was to keep an eye out on. As for the corruption in the Canadian Federal Government, heck the West (of Canada, that is), has known about it for years. The only reason the Liberals are kept in power is thanks to the apathy in the East (sans Bloc Quebecois, of course) -they have been satisfied with the Liberals for so long that that is all they are used to. There seems to be a general fear of shaking the boat a bit with a new government.

Is it pizza parlors in Vancouver? Thanks for the tip. IF you're ever in Toronto you need to watch the dollar stores.

Come on now, corruption in government isn't limited to the Liberal Party. Do you recall the Airbus fiasco? Mulronie, personally, made millions off that.

Also, apathy in the east (I presume you mean east of Manatoba) is not the reason that most votes here go to the Liberals. As much as the Conservative party caters to the interests of the West the Liberals cater to the East. Look at the Liberal social policies. The Liberal party appeals to the urban middle class, the university educated, and immigrants. These three groups equal about 60% of Ontario's population. This results in Liberals grabbing most of the seats in Ontario. It isn't because Ontarians are apathetic, it's because the Liberals really do best represent their interests (corruption aside). As for the Atlantic provinces, I'm not sure. I think it is a safe bet, however, that many of the former PC voters in the Atlantic provinces did not support the Conservatives in the last election because they fear that their interests will take a back seat to the West's, moreover, the Atlantic provinces' interests are often at odds with the West.

FYI, I'm not a fan of any of the federal parties. I will likely vote Liberal in the next election as a Liberal government is more suited toward my ideological position then is a Conservative. That being said I would like to see the Conservatives take a shot at governing. Regardless of who makes up the government for the next period I would like to see another minority as it creates greater accountability.

Wow... Hillarious thread, no really.

There is a place called Haiti, where people paddle down rivers of chocolate in graham cracker boats, and kids run and play in fields of marshmellows with gumdrop smiles. What a fuckin joke, Canada the most corrupt country in the west, easy off the panic button.

http://insidecostarica.com/specialr..._corruption.htm

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/art...17/133225.shtml

The Oil-for-Food Scandal � the Canadian Connection

Charles R. Smith
Tuesday, Jan. 18, 2005

"Its all about the oil" was the chant issued by a vast army of protesters around the world.

Yes, it may have been "all about the oil" � but it didn't involve Americans, who did not own any of the oil in Iraq, but rather a horde of rich global fat cats who wanted to make millions in a so-called U.N. humanitarian program. One of those who made out like a bandit is a rich Canadian whose bank made millions and whose Paris-based holding companies include the originally French-Belgian oil company TotalFina Elf, which cut lucrative deals with Saddam's Iraq and is currently operating in war-torn Sudan.

Various congressional committees have launched hearings into what has been described as the biggest corruption scandal in history. Not surprisingly, U.N. officials have refused to cooperate with the congressional investigations.

The investigations have turned up a number of damning facts that point directly to the incompetence at best, complicity at worst of the most senior U.N. officials and those involved.

It is now well known, for example, that U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan's own son was getting big cash payments from a Swiss firm that profited from the program, in return for his "expert" opinions and advice. Recently published evidence shows that Annan's son was paraded as a high-level contact within the U.N.

The congressional investigations have surfaced preliminary accounting figures that show that Saddam Hussein likely siphoned off as much as $15 billion, almost a quarter of the entire funds transferred.

While the anti-U.S. critics wailed at the impact of the embargo on the Iraqi people, their attention miraculously centered on the nation that liberated the victims of Saddam's original aggressions � and not on the Thug in Chief or his numerous continental 'partners'.

Free to "govern," Saddam did so with a vengeance, and the rest, as they say, is history � which, thankfully, Congress is now exposing after the U.S. military put an "Out of Business" sign on Baghdad.

Hussein was not alone in his corruption, and several others involved in the money flow, including government firms and politicians in Europe, are now nervously following the investigations while checking out one-way flights to Paraguay.

BNP Paribas

Top among these is the European-based BNP Paribas bank, which the U.N. chose to administer the program and which reportedly received nearly $1 billion for its efforts. Congressional investigators reviewing the bank's actions have discovered broken rules, missing documents and improper transfers by BNP Paribas, which up until now has been assumed to be a French bank.

In fact, BNP Paribas is actually controlled by Power Corporation, an appropriately named Canadian company that has a shocking track record of 'business' relationships with the worst gangsters and tyrannical regimes in the world.

BNP Paribas also has one other distinguishing feature: a direct corporate and familial relationship with the persons running the government of Canada for the last 20 years.

The truth about BNP Paribas and Power Corp. sheds a new light on Canada's seemingly bizarre anti-American foreign policy in the Middle East, in China and elsewhere.

BNP Paribas bank is part of a holding company, Pargesa Holding, which is jointly owned and controlled by the Fr�re and Desmarais families. Paul Desmarais Sr. is the chairman of the group, while Albert Fr�re is the vice-chairman. Gerald Fr�re, Albert's son, is one of three general managers who oversee day-to-day operations, and Paul Desmarais Jr. is also an officer.

Pargesa, and thus Power Corporation and the Canadian Desmarais family, holds a controlling significant stake in TotalFina Elf, the Belgian-French petroleum multinational corporation formed from the merger of Total and Petrofina.

BNP Paribas and TotalFina may have blood-stained corporate histories, but the intimate and intricate connections of Power Corp. to Canada's governing elite raise the truly disturbing questions.

Power Corporation CEO Andre Desmarais is the son-in-law of former Prime Minister Jean Chretien, who went out of his way to oppose U.S. intervention in Iraq, where the family's business interests with the Saddam regime would be jeopardized.

Current Canadian PM Paul Martin is a former Power Corporation employee who made his fortune when he bought Canada Steamship Lines from Power Corp. aided by loans from Power Corp. To this day both CSL and Power are reported to have mutual equity interests in each other.

The most senior foreign affairs/international trade adviser to current Canadian PM Paul Martin is Maurice Strong, former CEO of Power Corp. and a longtime U.N. and Kofi Annan adviser.

TotalFina Elf

So, who is TotalFina Elf? Just an oil company that cut a deal with Saddam to develop and exploit the Majnoon and Nahr Umar oil fields in southern Iraq. These properties are estimated to contain as much as 25 percent of the country's oil reserves.

With Saddam under arrest, the Canadian-controlled company has expanded its "client base" and now has a deal with the murderous Sudanese regime to quietly extract its oil and funnel profits back to Khartoum for its infamous social programs.

Disgusted by the lethargic pace and willful blindness of the U.N.-led investigation of itself headed up by Paul Volcker, the U.S. Congress opened its own investigation. Committee investigators found that eight government agencies notified BNP Paribas about "deficiencies" in handling money in the U.N. program.

No wonder Congress smelled a rat when it watched the deliberately ineffectual U.N. 'review' of the 'Food-for-Oil' program. Thankfully, it followed up on that and launched its own investigations which, if allowed to follow their natural course, will inevitably expose fraud, corruption, sleaze, theft, incompetence and, perhaps in the long run most significantly, the corrupt political and personal motivations of supposedly friendly governments, including Canada, in this entire mess.

For our Canadian friends and supposed partners, we are left with the disturbing question: Who's really in charge and whose interests are they really serving?

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