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Posted by Paolo Fox on Apr-12-2005 05:21:

help! im making the switch...

ive been spinning vinyl ever since i began djing 6 years ago, however, after recently attending wmc i saw enough top jocks use other media that it finally convinced me to incorporate cd players alongside my decks. then, as i was getting ready for work this morning i thought, "what's the point to spinning two different types of media if clubs provide one with the option to go either route? its got to be one or the other." so now, after years of being a vinyl-only dj, i am very seriously considering selling my decks and using the money to buy some pioneer cd players. hell, after burning my vinyl to cd i can sell the old 12"s and use that money to upgrade the studio! still, im very reluctant to let go of my decks and records. im a traditionalist at heart but i realize that the time for change is now. we must make some transition as it appears that it wont be very long before cds become a thing of the past! im caught in the middle right now, stuck between the future and the foundation, and im hoping someone will convince me either that what im doing is wrong and im a sucka for selling out to cds, or that this is a natural progression into a more modern djing world. i would have never thought myself to even consider this transition a mere 6 months ago and now i need help!

Posted by Boomer187 on Apr-12-2005 05:30:

well i am sure most djs were playing promo only stuff at wmc, or they only brought cds so they didn't worry about teh huge vinyl case n stuff. Whenever I see a big name dj spin here i always see them switching between vinyl and cd.

so id say just get some cd decks and don't be afraid to start buying songs to download.

Posted by DannyO on Apr-12-2005 06:33:

Nothing wrong with spinning cd only, best would be to do both.

And as far as I'm aware, you sell your records, you lose all rights to spin any of your backed up records, so they basically become illegal.

Posted by Allied Nations on Apr-12-2005 07:06:

cds are uber fun.

Posted by dj chex on Apr-12-2005 07:11:

no, vinyl is uber fun

If your really considering about the future, you should also check out SSL.

Posted by Allied Nations on Apr-12-2005 09:11:

quote:
Originally posted by dj chex
no, vinyl is uber fun

If your really considering about the future, you should also check out SSL.

vinyl is great as well, but cds are fun as well, looping, hot cues, lots of that stuff is really fun..

plus have u ever tried to edit vinyl? dont get me wrong i love vinyl, but editing tracks has added a whole new dimension to my sets..

Posted by dj chex on Apr-12-2005 09:40:

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress
vinyl is great as well, but cds are fun as well, looping, hot cues, lots of that stuff is really fun..

plus have u ever tried to edit vinyl? dont get me wrong i love vinyl, but editing tracks has added a whole new dimension to my sets..

That's why i use ssl...

Also, i like my cd decks for hot cues and looping, but my tts are still a important tool. W/ ssl i can still use my edits and mashups without the need of burning a cd. It also has cd player support too.

Posted by skip on Apr-12-2005 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by DannyO

And as far as I'm aware, you sell your records, you lose all rights to spin any of your backed up records, so they basically become illegal.

this CANNOT be stressed enough! if you burn them to cd and sell the vinyl you indeed lose the right to them and therefore are doing pretty much the same thing as downloading tunes from the internet and playing them out and that is a big
NO NO!
if you don't think there's anything wrong in this then i must say that your values are fucked up bad IMO.

Posted by beats and beeps on Apr-12-2005 21:13:

Buying vinyls ripping them and selling them (and playing the rips on cdjs of course) is even worse than spinning illegal mp3s in my opinion. Both should never ever ever be done of course.

Hell, over on the texas forums, some dj who plays in clubs and the whole bit was talking about how he does everything completly legally, because he rents vinyls, rips them, and plays out the rips.

Most fucked up train of thought I had ever read...of course I had rarely heard of renting vinyls as well...

Posted by DJ-Igloo on Apr-12-2005 23:59:

cds are fun as heck cause u can carry alot more tracks with u and easier to get thru customs

Posted by TranceSpeeder on Apr-13-2005 01:55:

vynil will never die!

Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Apr-13-2005 02:42:

Don't sell your decks, as the others have said, use both CD's and vinyl. You'll find its even more fun to use both. The CDJ is a must have these days, and Vinyl is hardly going out of style. Besides your going to find that its hard to find all the tracks you want in WAV or MP3, and thats where your records come into play. As for the legalities of your MP3's/WAV's, when you buy them, make sure you print out a receipt and keep them in a safe place so if you are ever questioned, you can show proof of purchase.

Posted by DannyO on Apr-13-2005 02:43:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSpeeder
vynil will never die!

amen brother, praise the lord.

As for the people who do this music stuff illegally, I dunno how they see it, but I can't imagen it now, but then again I wasn't always innocent, so people can change there views, afew years ago it wouldn't of prolly bothered me so much, now I won't spin tunes that ain't mine or I haven't got permission off of from the artist.

Posted by Paolo Fox on Apr-13-2005 05:26:

i would to clarify that i was unaware of the legalities of burning vinyl to cd and the loss of rights involved. since ive played only vinyl to this point ive never had to deal with this issue before, but i can say with certainty that once i do purchase my pioneers i will never play any ripped-off music. as for my decks, after taking into account all thats been said above (as if the sole fact that i wont be burning my old vinyl to cd not isnt enough) it seems as though ill keep my decks after all! i must admit that i was just a few keystrokes away that morning from putting them up on ebay but im certainly glad i consulted my fellow TAs first. thanx all!

Posted by Allied Nations on Apr-13-2005 05:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DannyO
amen brother, praise the lord.

As for the people who do this music stuff illegally, I dunno how they see it, but I can't imagen it now, but then again I wasn't always innocent, so people can change there views, afew years ago it wouldn't of prolly bothered me so much, now I won't spin tunes that ain't mine or I haven't got permission off of from the artist.

true, its very hard though, especially when you live in a place like india. no record shop, customs is a pain in the ass for bringing in vinyl, it makes life very difficult. ive been trying to use beatport etc more often, but its still a bitch and a half. its just so hard to find the songs i want to buy.

living in india is a bitch