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Posted by ibiza_cat on Apr-14-2005 12:38:

Tricklist

following up from my 'Dave Clarke's tricks' post, some cats came out with a whole bunch of useful information on some skills that can spice up a mix.

I thought it would be useful to ask any heavyweights for their arsenal of tricks.

lets see em...

Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-14-2005 13:32:

Im good at performing the "trainwreck..." Its Ill breaks . Anyway I have a DJM 600, and would love to learn some neat tricks with it.

Posted by webbie on Apr-14-2005 14:28:

Im sure this can be done on the DJM-600 in some way but on the Denon DN-S5000 there is a function called mirror mix which playes the maintrack
on a second channel and you can add a delay to it, add a long delay and play with the crossfader and you can "cut out" parts of the song
so you only keep the beat and get rid of the hihat or similar, really fun actually.

I use the echo function of my EFX-500 to add a very short echo to like 3 beats before a phrase change, it usually gives a good effect.

Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-14-2005 14:34:

interesting... what is your set-up?

Posted by webbie on Apr-14-2005 15:10:

2x Technics 1210
1x Denon DN-S5000
1x EFX-500
1x Behringer DJX700

Switching the Behringer for a A&H Xone:92 in May tho.

Posted by Dervish on Apr-14-2005 15:35:

Dunno about a trick but when a song is gonna cut out before a mix is finnished (i.e. mix isn't long enough for my liking, not a natural end yet) I sometimes just hit reverse and help the deck my flicking the record back (record now playing backwards and in beat).

What you get is a quick transistion on the already lower volume out going track from forwards to backwards (hopefully not missing a beat)sounds a bit like a one beat spin back kinda.

The reversed track tends to sound really chuggy (a term of mine dunno if you know what I mean) and chunky (adds something to the mix, depth maybe?) and gives you more time on what would of been an unnatural end to a mix.

Obviously depends on the outgoing track on how it works and also how well (quickly and accuratly) you can flick the record from forward to reverse.

Sometimes I've done it by bringing the tune out (line up in the headphones) for a phase and back in (on beat). But it can be done "live". Obviously done inccorectly it can result in a mega wreak (easily fixed, but still a fuck up).

BTW, haha technics people no reverse button, supose a sampler would do the same thing but not as much fun.

Posted by webbie on Apr-14-2005 15:52:

Altho you wouldnt know if someone had modified their Techs to have a reverse button, now would you?

Posted by Freak on Apr-14-2005 16:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Dervish

BTW, haha technics people no reverse button,

Oh no.
My life is over

Posted by ibiza_cat on Apr-14-2005 16:33:

sheesh, no need to start pulling eachothers hair.... vinyl and cd both have their qualities. period.

Posted by Dervish on Apr-14-2005 16:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
Oh no.
My life is over

I'm so sorry for my "blasphemous" and obviously serious comment!

Posted by T-Soma on Apr-15-2005 09:01:

Doesnt the record spinning backwards cause more wear on the stylus and record?

Posted by eyeball_2003 on Apr-15-2005 14:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
Doesnt the record spinning backwards cause more wear on the stylus and record?

i wouldnt think so... the vinyl is a piece of wax and the needle is a spherical piece of metal, im sure it would cause the same wear forwards or backwards

Posted by Omega_Blue on Apr-20-2005 05:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
Dunno about a trick but when a song is gonna cut out before a mix is finnished (i.e. mix isn't long enough for my liking, not a natural end yet) I sometimes just hit reverse and help the deck my flicking the record back (record now playing backwards and in beat).

What you get is a quick transistion on the already lower volume out going track from forwards to backwards (hopefully not missing a beat)sounds a bit like a one beat spin back kinda.

The reversed track tends to sound really chuggy (a term of mine dunno if you know what I mean) and chunky (adds something to the mix, depth maybe?) and gives you more time on what would of been an unnatural end to a mix.

Obviously depends on the outgoing track on how it works and also how well (quickly and accuratly) you can flick the record from forward to reverse.

Sometimes I've done it by bringing the tune out (line up in the headphones) for a phase and back in (on beat). But it can be done "live". Obviously done inccorectly it can result in a mega wreak (easily fixed, but still a fuck up).

BTW, haha technics people no reverse button, supose a sampler would do the same thing but not as much fun.

good idea, i've always contemplated what to do when this happens.