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Posted by PH1.ca on Apr-17-2005 05:47:

Saturday nights in Vancouver suck for anyone who digs anything dirty or over 130bpm.

discuss.


Posted by AquaYak on Apr-17-2005 06:14:

Its very hard to get a reliable electronic clubnight going because of the massives. One or two raves happen, and thats it your night is over, because bar owners dont care about wahts going on they want money.

there are no top 40 raves. even concerts hardly make a didnt because of the hours they run. Until we get a mega club like government which combines the clubbers and ravers into one massive, it will be very hard to do except in very small venues.


Posted by 24K on Apr-17-2005 06:29:

WE NEED A NEW AFTER HOURS

-nuff said


Posted by DjCommisad on Apr-17-2005 06:34:

quote:
Originally posted by AquaYak
Its very hard to get a reliable electronic clubnight going because of the massives. One or two raves happen, and thats it your night is over, because bar owners dont care about wahts going on they want money.

there are no top 40 raves. even concerts hardly make a didnt because of the hours they run. Until we get a mega club like government which combines the clubbers and ravers into one massive, it will be very hard to do except in very small venues.


and small venues don't work. the other thing is promotion. the first harding appearance got huge promotion adn the club was filled to the brim. it seems to me, its all about getting the right person/people at the right time.

it's also about how hard nosed some people can be. i know my friends from high school and such listen to hiphop/top 40/etc and i've asked them to come to events i'm at/nye/etc, and they come up with the lamest excuses.. the one guy from my university i did bring, who's never really listened to trance before, loved it, and wanted to keep coming back. seems that another issue is getting people to open their minds. i go to their top 40/hiphop stuff, because i want to be with my friends, not because of the music (most times, i'm up for that kind of stuff once in awhile).

but yes, most clubs/bars are interested in money, are interested in having patrons, etc. to them, top 40/rock/hiphop/alternative sells locally (and it does, the mainstream radio stations/pop culture/local culture all aid to that as well as local promotion and relationships/promotional events).

as sean said, until there's a venue willing to support the music/scene on a regular basis, and until that venue and its supporters can rise above the absolute underground underground (im not shooting for something you'd hear about in ibizia and having people travel to from across the globe here!), then clubs and owners are going to continue to turn their backs as we've seen over the last few months.


Posted by Miss Lizzie on Apr-17-2005 06:48:

There's nothing wrong with underground if you ask me.... sure maybe we could actually get some SLEEP Saturday's after we're robbed of sleep Thurs, Fridays... I think that if the EDM scene here sold out... I'd probably head back to Europe STAT!... I like the intimate small clubs we get to see our favourite big name dj's here!


Posted by DjCommisad on Apr-17-2005 08:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Lizzie
There's nothing wrong with underground if you ask me.... sure maybe we could actually get some SLEEP Saturday's after we're robbed of sleep Thurs, Fridays... I think that if the EDM scene here sold out... I'd probably head back to Europe STAT!... I like the intimate small clubs we get to see our favourite big name dj's here!


no doubt, from day 1 i've been against commercializing EDM. but on the other hand, im also tired of the scene getting the backhand.


Posted by mikefasssy on Apr-17-2005 09:16:

i dunno i just got home from tokyo lounge and seany was doing a dandy job if you ask me.


Posted by Seany_G on Apr-17-2005 23:18:

quote:
Originally posted by mikefasssy
i dunno i just got home from tokyo lounge and seany was doing a dandy job if you ask me.


Thanks buddy!

I started off at 123 BPM and worked it up to 128 towards the end.

Not fast enough for the majority of the TA crew...


Posted by djjaspa on Apr-17-2005 23:36:

Trance Nights

My buddy and I just started a new residency at Viva on Saturday nights and the whole promotion thing is somewhat difficult. It seems that people come out in gobs for the big name DJ's but for the local stuff, it seems to be a little light, especially out in Richmond. I am sure that you guys have all had a chance to check out Viva and I know it has a history. Try and come out sometime and see whats going on, we are open to a number of different ideas and concepts, so if anyone has any, let me know.

As for the Trance scene out here, it is definetly sparse so its good to support others whenever possible, we would be more than happy to support in return.


Posted by kanadianiceman on Apr-18-2005 00:35:

/rant, im just giong nuts but this is fun. and probly not even on topic. BUT!


FACT : 87% of statistics are made up on the spot!

i say the higher the BPM the lower the quality of people

more BPM more unsocial activity, less interesting people, less educated ,more water is consumed. Individual "class" goes down, and more water is consumed.
More BPM has less sex.
More BPM has less thought.
More BPM has younger ages.
More BPM has bad teeth.
More BPM enjoys car alarms that much more.
more BPM is better at DDR (dance dance revolution)
More BPM has stronger forearms and wrists
MORE BPM has longer hair,
More BPM has larger collection of fake fur materials.

hmm i will add to this later its pretty fun and kills time, and gets me thinking.


oh ya more BPM less money made by djs?....thats a tricky one........... Considering armin is being praised like no tommorrow.

He said in one of his shows, ASOT 187 i think that trance is always back and forth.

ah well some of it is pretty sweet,


Posted by 24K on Apr-18-2005 00:40:

Behold, my arse.

quote:
Originally posted by djjaspa
My buddy and I just started a new residency at Viva on Saturday nights and the whole promotion thing is somewhat difficult.


Saturday nights aren't difficult to promote. There are several reasons why you're night will become a dismal faliure.

quote:
Originally posted by djjaspa
It seems that people come out in gobs for the big name DJ's but for the local stuff, it seems to be a little light, especially out in Richmond.


You're not a real DJ.

quote:
Originally posted by djjaspa
I am sure that you guys have all had a chance to check out Viva and I know it has a history. Try and come out sometime and see whats going on, we are open to a number of different ideas and concepts, so if anyone has any, let me know.


Are you aware of the history at Viva? Obviously not. The BEST trance DJs in the city were playing there for the past 3 years, not to mention out of town guest DJs like Misja Helsloot, John Askew, Ronski Speed and Niklas Harding.

quote:
Originally posted by djjaspa
As for the Trance scene out here, it is definetly sparse so its good to support others whenever possible, we would be more than happy to support in return.


The trance scene is hardly 'sparce' as you call it. I'm sure it seems that way for someone as out of touch as yourself, but that's to be expected. You might be able to fool clueless people with your foolish banter, but people who are educated will see through your fabricated nonsense.


Posted by DjCommisad on Apr-18-2005 02:10:

quote:
Originally posted by 24K


im waiting for danny to call me a girly man


Posted by Tayfoon on Apr-18-2005 03:38:

Vancouver's EDM Scene has gone down the



Posted by apri_peel on Apr-18-2005 06:32:

that toilet looks too nice for the vancouver EDM


i think the reason why vancouver clubs will not be like ones out in TO is because clubs in toronto are the actual party promoters. they arrange for DJs to come, they promote the night, etc, etc. so if the club doesnt get the people, they lose money. here, from what i can tell, clubs normally get money no matter how well or bad the promoter does. therefore, clubs out in toronto get bigger crowds because it is in their direct interest to bring in as many people as possible

i have realized something. many promoters in vancouver are trying to go after other guys for personal reasons. it is no longer about the music, it is all about being thought of as the best ===> the mucho attitude. so until some tempers can be cooled down, feelings healed and and differences reconciled, we are stuck with a rather shitty scene


Posted by 24K on Apr-18-2005 06:38:

^^^ There aren't any venues to throw parties at!!!

Any attempt at holding a liscenced all night event costs a rediculous amount of money and just isn't worth the investment. I'm not sure what the scene is like in Toronto, but I reckon there are a lot more venues suited for doing electronic nights, later closing hours etc. It's not so much a problem with the promoters IMO as it is the by-laws/closing hours, lack of venues etc.


Posted by apri_peel on Apr-18-2005 06:49:

that too ^^
i guess i shouldve mentioned the conservative government we have in BC and vancouver


Posted by Sykonee on Apr-18-2005 16:39:

Hmnn... I always work Saturday nights anyways. Just so long there are decent tunes on the nights that I have off (Monday, Tuesday, and sometimes Wednesday and Friday), I'm happy.


Posted by apri_peel on Apr-18-2005 19:19:

Re: Trance Nights

quote:
Originally posted by djjaspa
My buddy and I just started a new residency at Viva on Saturday nights and the whole promotion thing is somewhat difficult. It seems that people come out in gobs for the big name DJ's but for the local stuff, it seems to be a little light, especially out in Richmond. I am sure that you guys have all had a chance to check out Viva and I know it has a history. Try and come out sometime and see whats going on, we are open to a number of different ideas and concepts, so if anyone has any, let me know.

As for the Trance scene out here, it is definetly sparse so its good to support others whenever possible, we would be more than happy to support in return.


hi, you look new here
care to introduce yourself before promoting your night?


Posted by TIESTO_MESSIAH on Apr-18-2005 22:21:

Jester Hey tyfoon is that a MR.Clean miracle or..

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tayfoon
Vancouver's EDM Scene has gone down the


[/QUOT

that toilet must be sponsored by MR.Clean !!!


Posted by djdoubledown on Apr-18-2005 23:11:

Re: Trance Nights

quote:
Originally posted by djjaspa
My buddy and I just started a new residency at Viva on Saturday nights and the whole promotion thing is somewhat difficult. It seems that people come out in gobs for the big name DJ's but for the local stuff, it seems to be a little light, especially out in Richmond. I am sure that you guys have all had a chance to check out Viva and I know it has a history. Try and come out sometime and see whats going on, we are open to a number of different ideas and concepts, so if anyone has any, let me know.

As for the Trance scene out here, it is definetly sparse so its good to support others whenever possible, we would be more than happy to support in return.


rotflmao


Posted by djjaspa on Apr-19-2005 00:04:

Re: Re: Trance Nights

quote:
Originally posted by apri_peel
hi, you look new here
care to introduce yourself before promoting your night?


Hey there,

Sorry apri_peel, just getting involved in the conversation. DJ Jaspa, Producer and DJ from the Burnaby area. Been DJing for about 4 years and producing for about 12! Didn't mean to step on anyones toes, just trying to get along with folks and do our thing. After all, its all about the music.


Posted by Tayfoon on Apr-19-2005 02:49:

Re: Re: Re: Trance Nights

quote:
Originally posted by djjaspa
After all, its all about the music.


From your actions it seems to be far from it


Posted by Tayfoon on Apr-19-2005 03:32:

lol


I had to


Posted by Tayfoon on Apr-19-2005 03:57:

One more for now


Posted by AquaYak on Apr-19-2005 04:11:

maybe you should meet someone before you totally rip into them tayfoon thats pretty harsh.

starting a clubnight is a cool thing. just because he hasnt been around with us doesnt meen he isnt a cool guy. still, anyone who doesnt know anyone of the tas probably doesnt really know whats going on. gl anyways pal, and tayfoon....tsk tsk.


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