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In Search for a good 4 Channel Mixer!

Hi!

As I want to buy cdj's in the near future i need two more channels, so i thought i sell my numark dxm06 and buy a new 4 channel mixer which isn't too expensive (under 800$ - 650� would be nice)

Can somebody give me some advice on these mixers?

- Ecler Smac 40 (this is the cheapest i found, only 500 �, doesn't have effects though, which would be nice but isn't that important)

- Numark 5000FX (550�, has 5 channels - i read a thread on the mixer on this forum, but a few more oppinions would be nice)

- Pioneer DJM 500 (630� - lots of people have this mixer, but i read good and not so good reviews...i think it's a bit too expensive for the quality right?)

what do you think about these 3?
do you recommend any other mixer in this price range?

thank you in advance!

ps: i did a search but its difficult to search for 4 channel mixers when "4" isn't over 4 characters

I currently still rock the DJM 500, in fact I just replaced one that had a bit of an accident

Here's my take on the situation: They probably aren't worth what they're selling for new anymore, but if you can find a reasonable price on a used one, the DJM 500 is a stand up mixer. I love it, and I think in general it's pretty well accepted as a "quality" piece of material you're likely to find out at clubs to this day.

I've never played on the other two, so I don't know about them in comparison to the DJM, but I will say this, I'm not buying another mixer until I can afford an A&H X92...

Hopefully that helped a bit, Chers,

RJT

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Originally posted by rturn214 I currently still rock the DJM 500, in fact I just replaced one that had a bit of an accident Here's my take on the situation: They probably aren't worth what they're selling for new anymore, but if you can find a reasonable price on a used one, the DJM 500 is a stand up mixer. I love it, and I think in general it's pretty well accepted as a "quality" piece of material you're likely to find out at clubs to this day. I've never played on the other two, so I don't know about them in comparison to the DJM, but I will say this, I'm not buying another mixer until I can afford an A&H X92... Hopefully that helped a bit, Chers, RJT

thanks mate, it helped :-)

i also thought in getting a used djm500 or 600 at ebay...the prices are allright...and if you say they are quality and last long (i don't wanna buy a mixer in the near future after that one - maybe i'll save for the x92 too when i finished university ) i maybe bid on one!

Yeha man, they're most definitely quality, and for years they were pretty much the club standard, which isn't to say bigger and better things haven't come out since then, but if you're looking for something nice to last you a while, a good condition, slightly used DJM 500 should definitely do you right...

Hope it all works out for you M8, happy mixing down under!

Cheers,

RJT

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Originally posted by rturn214 Hope it all works out for you M8, happy mixing down under!

Its Austria, not Australia matey

****
Have you looked at the Denon DNX-1500?
Dunno what the prices are like there, but here they are cheaper than the DJM-600 and (much much cheaper than) 5000FX

I need to check my reading glasses! Sorry M8, let's make that good luck spinning... ummm.... over there, or maybe up there?

Bah, I'm going to cut my losses and just stop there...

Sorry again M8, next time I'll read a bit closer No disrespect intended to any Austrians at all!

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter Its Austria, not Australia matey **** Have you looked at the Denon DNX-1500? Dunno what the prices are like there, but here they are cheaper than the DJM-600 and (much much cheaper than) 5000FX

yeah, we don't have koala bears

i looked at the denon, but here it's the other way around

the numark is the cheapest with 550 euros and the denon is nearly as expensive as the djm 600 (the denon is 750 and the pioneer is 800)

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Originally posted by rturn214 I need to check my reading glasses! Sorry M8, let's make that good luck spinning... ummm.... over there, or maybe up there? Bah, I'm going to cut my losses and just stop there... Sorry again M8, next time I'll read a bit closer No disrespect intended to any Austrians at all!

hey you don't need to apologize - this happens quite often to me! :-)

I would recommend you take a look around more, newer 4 channel mixers on ebay. Did yo try looking for the DNX on ebay? I mean the Pioneer is all around a fine mixer, i cant say it isnt but there ofcourse is better things now. Im not saying you should go overboard with what youre getting but if this is just for bedroom dj'ing then the 500 will do the job. I ownt he 1500, i love the thing.

I used to own the DJM 500 myself and I think its a quality mixer. The whole feel of it is nice - nice EQ's on it and I like the feel of the faders. Makes for some precise mixing once you get used to it.

But I think you could pick up an Allen & Heath xone 62 off ebay for a similar price as the djm 500/600... thats if your looking for a mixer with amazing sound quality. I personally think the Ecler mixers are priced to high as the output quality lacks a bit. Comparing Pioneer and Ecler I would go for the pio because there both on the same level in terms of output quality (except Ecler's mixers being priced much higher)

I own a xone 92 and can safely say that the xone 62 is very similar to mix on. Plus the fact it has 6 channels and 2 high quality A&H analogue filters on it.

As for Denon... I have no idea what they are like, never had a mix on one

dn-x1500 all the way

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Originally posted by Fresh I personally think the Ecler mixers are priced to high as the output quality lacks a bit. Comparing Pioneer and Ecler I would go for the pio because there both on the same level in terms of output quality (except Ecler's mixers being priced much higher)

here in austria it's quite the opposite! the ecler smac 40 costs 500 euros brand new and a djm500/600 is 630/800 new!

for that price, which one would you choose mate?

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Originally posted by Tenshi here in austria it's quite the opposite! the ecler smac 40 costs 500 euros brand new and a djm500/600 is 630/800 new! for that price, which one would you choose mate?

the dn-x1500

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Originally posted by Tegu dn-x1500 all the way

hell yeah, best mixer around IMO... it's basically got the effects of the djm 600 plus loads of extra stuff, filters like the a&h (admittedly not as good, but the filters on the xone mixers are unbeatable), sound quality somewhere in betwen the two (nearer the a&h end) and... it's all upgradable via usb, so you can get new effects when denon write the software for them, plus improvements to the processing algorithms etc. seriously recommend having a look at it

I use a Denon dn-x300. Although quite featureless, i think it's a solid mixer. When I started beatmatching, I wanted a good mixer without all the knobs and dials to confuse me. When I decide I got my beatchmatching up to grade, then I would upgrade to a more versitle mixer. I guess I'm crawling before I walk (kinda)

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Originally posted by Tenshi here in austria it's quite the opposite! the ecler smac 40 costs 500 euros brand new and a djm500/600 is 630/800 new! for that price, which one would you choose mate?

Hmmm, I don't know because I've only had a chance to mix on an Ecler Nuo 5 which is currently eclers flagship mixer so I'd guess that it would be better in terms of output quality to there lower priced model (smac 40)

I still think you should put the effort into getting an Allen & Heath

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Originally posted by Stu Cox and... it's all upgradable via usb, so you can get new effects when denon write the software for them, plus improvements to the processing algorithms etc. seriously recommend having a look at it

Heard about this before. Sounds interesting and if it all works smoothly its a nice feature if you ask me!

I started out with a Denon dx400 19 inch mixer which I was extremely happy about. i think I paid abotu $329 for it. There's also the step up...The 800 which is also solid.

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Originally posted by Fresh But I think you could pick up an Allen & Heath xone 62 off ebay for a similar price as the djm 500/600... thats if your looking for a mixer with amazing sound quality. I personally think the Ecler mixers are priced to high as the output quality lacks a bit. Comparing Pioneer and Ecler I would go for the pio because there both on the same level in terms of output quality (except Ecler's mixers being priced much higher)

you do know you cant hear the eq changes in the cue and monitoring positions though right.... you cant hear you change the EQ in your headphones? Thats a major dropdown for me. I was going to get that mixer but then i decided on the DNX which i am absolutely happy with. The sound quality of that mixer is great..but will you even hear that quality in your bedroom in the little 14x14 room lets say? You wont hear that great of a difference unless youve got quite the space adn quite the equipment of showing the mixers ful potential in sound.

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Originally posted by jupiterone you do know you cant hear the eq changes in the cue and monitoring positions though right.... you cant hear you change the EQ in your headphones? Thats a major dropdown for me. I was going to get that mixer but then i decided on the DNX which i am absolutely happy with. The sound quality of that mixer is great..but will you even hear that quality in your bedroom in the little 14x14 room lets say? You wont hear that great of a difference unless youve got quite the space adn quite the equipment of showing the mixers ful potential in sound.

The EQ monitoring issue is a negative point I must admit... the 92 has a post eq function on the monitoring system. Even when I used the 62 I just used to turn the channel up a bit instead of an eq... Soon got used to it with no problems. Actually I think I prefered it because you could monitor your beatmatching through the headphones (hearing both tunes playing at the same level) than through the system if your incoming tune was at a low level on the fader, gain, EQ's etc. while you were bringing it into the mix.

In terms of hearing the sound quality I think thats a pretty silly statement. Speakers and systems are a different ball game. Firstly why would you spend all your money on a quality mixer without taking your current home speaker system into account? Either way the Allen & Heath will sound better on budget speakers or a big system compared to some other mixers. Example, when I got my a&h mixer I could immediately hear a clearer, crisper signal coming through my fairly cheap mission loudspeakers. The pioneer I had before sounded quite muddy compared to the xone, aswell as the ecler nuo 5 which ive also had running through the same speakers. No doubt the allen & heath does sound more amazing through a bigger louder system, but doesnt electronic music in general sound better at louder levels?

I wish I had the chance to mix on a denon mixer, am genuinely interested in hearing the output quality!

You are right about the speakers m8 but generally most people cant hear the full beauty a mixer has to offer because they are confined in such a small space like their bedroom. I have shitty speakers. Honeslty HORRIBLE. But it still soudns great with the DNX. I need more cash. i jsut spent 10 grand on production stuff so im a bit behind lmao.

dont waste your time and money

go for an allen & heath xone 92 or 62


it has all you want...best sounding mixer

great feeling
legendary a&h filters....

ive put my hand on allen & heath and i am never switching again

Id take the DNX over the 62. Hands down.

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Originally posted by j@y dont waste your time and money go for an allen & heath xone 92 or 62 it has all you want...best sounding mixer great feeling legendary a&h filters.... ive put my hand on allen & heath and i am never switching again

i think you didn't see that i don't wanna spend much over 650�

for the money you've got, get a dnx-1500. ive got one and couldnt be happier. if you've got the money, sure get an A&H:92 but since you dont then get the dnx-1500

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