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Tiësto No. 1 - But why?

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Today I listened to a recording of "DJ Tiësto @ Disneyland Paris". There is a point, when Tiësto is announced by this black guy. "He is the number one DJ of the world." "Great pleasure to me, to let you welcome..."
Later, this guy says: "Let the DJ know how you feel." This was the point I thought: "What the F? This sounds like 'Let the king feel the people's subjection'."
This DJ is just a DJ! He plays records just as everyone else can buy in every good record shop. He produces music like a lot of further producers. Man! What makes Tiësto so special?! Yes, his sets are really mindblowing. But I know at least one DJ who does it as well, if not even better. And I'm not speaking of the big ones. Tiësto even has no special skills on the turntables. Just mixing good tracks after another.

DJ Tiësto. This cow has been milked enough.
DVD: In Concert Vol. 1, OK.
DVD: In Concert Vol. 2, why?
Olympia, where is the connection to trance?
Paris, same as Olympia.
etc.

DJ Tiësto is not the No. 1 DJ. He is the No. 1 publicity platform. (my opinion)

This Tiësto hype is only the result of a great and massive marketing strategy. And I'm a little pi**ed off because they are using our trance music.

Perhaps you'll say, trance music is nearly dead in some countries. So, why don't support the "Tiësto Mission" to get it a little alive in the commercial public?
Well, we had this a few years ago. Too many cheap productions in the radio and on TV. Do you still want trance to be the mainstream?

Big lightshows and massive advertising are no reasons to be the No. 1.

Re: Tiësto No. 1 - But why?

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Originally posted by Ultraphase ...

Give this kid a gold sticker.

he is number 1 in an opinion poll.

In terms of Popularity it's EASY to see why he is so appealing. He has VERY appealing track selection and he can AT LEAST flow tracks into one another good enough for the untrained masses not to really hear any faults.

Last night his Disneyland in Paris show was absolutely AMAZING. Mixing was decent (for him) and the track selection was STELLAR! Definetly my favorite trance set of the year so far.

In terms of Popularity he should be #1 in terms of Skill & Class, he shouldn't...

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Originally posted by Dan1584 ...good enough for the untrained masses not to really hear any faults.

And this, people, is why Tiesto fans are absolutely retarded.

*insert massive yawn here*

Anything else to add, Captain Obvious?

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Originally posted by auranaut And this, people, is why Tiesto fans are absolutely retarded.

I dont look retarded.

i dont speak retarded.

so because i dont mind some average mixing and like the music im retarded. way to go.

Keep being objective! Does anyone know where this hype came from? How does the Tiësto marketing work? These things may be interesting. Not how eductated or what ever the Tiësto fans are.

Tiesticles is just very well promoted, and the more money he gets from being well promoted the more of that money is pumped into him being promoted... it's a savage circle until he gets too old to give a shit and will just live off the benefits that black hole will bring him.

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Originally posted by Ultraphase Keep being objective! Does anyone know where this hype came from? How does the Tiësto marketing work? These things may be interesting. Not how eductated or what ever the Tiësto fans are.

basically one year he was lingering around the 30's then the next year he was number 1.

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Originally posted by JakeC basically one year he was lingering around the 30's then the next year he was number 1.

what did he do in that year?

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Originally posted by JakeC basically one year he was lingering around the 30's then the next year he was number 1.

That's the point. How come?

i spoke to soon.

just took my old copies of djmag out and this is how he went.

2000 - 24
2001 - 6
2002 - 1
2003 - 1
2004 - 1



from 6 to 1 aint unlikely but from the 24 to six is. i beleive that is where he started selling himself.

*6-1 was where he was great but 2002 - 2004

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Originally posted by slinkyhead what did he do in that year?

1. Played rather well
2. Continued to coast on In My Memory
3. Remixed Southern Sun
4. Filled the figurehead void left by Oakenfold's massive decline in popularity and Sasha & Digweed's full-scale retreat from trance.

It was 2002. His effort at both production and DJing took a sharp turn downward once his name was enough to keep the hype machine going.

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Originally posted by Cobalt (...)4. Filled the figurehead void left by Oakenfold's massive decline in popularity and Sasha & Digweed's full-scale retreat from trance. It was 2002. His effort at both production and DJing took a sharp turn downward once his name was enough to keep the hype machine going.

These two make sense. But why is he treated like a god? Still he is just a DJ. Perhaps a good one. But why even Coca Cola signed him? He isn't a Michael Jackson (scandals left beside for now) or some sport superstar who really brings some performance. Tiësto just does what hundreds of other DJs do.

tiesto's mixing sux (always has)
i think what got him to the no 1 spot in the first place is that
1- his productions and remixes used to be good
2- the huge amount of noobs getting into trance who were in love with his sets (which were much easier to find on the internet than someone like misjia helsloot's sets) just because he played good stuff, regardless the awful mixing and the fact that there are other, less popular trance djs that played better stuff...

anyway, the fact that benny benassi is #18 makes it more than obviouse that DJ MAGs list is about nothing other than popularity
and trance is (and never was) about popularity

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Originally posted by ZuLi anyway, the fact that benny benassi is #18 makes it more than obviouse that DJ MAGs list is about nothing other than popularity and trance is (and never was) about popularity

it may be popularity but have you heard Benny Benassi DJ?

he rocks.

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Originally posted by Ultraphase These two make sense. But why is he treated like a god? Still he is just a DJ. Perhaps a good one. But why even Coca Cola signed him? He isn't a Michael Jackson (scandals left beside for now) or some sport superstar who really brings some performance. Tiësto just does what hundreds of other DJs do.

Duh. That's why people who defend him in his current state deserve to be ridiculed.

People without experience in any given field are hopeless pawns to the power of a marketed, advertised popular figure. When people don't have background of their own to decide something on its own merits, they tend to follow what others say; it's a natural human behavior. With so many echoes of "#1", recent arrivals to electronica take it to heart without really questioning. People like having solid answers when they haven't really the evidence to back it up; it's a usual human flaw.

Cue Oakenfold-style backlash, and a TTA post saying he foretold it happening.

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Originally posted by ZuLi (...)anyway, the fact that benny benassi is #18 makes it more than obviouse that DJ MAGs list is about nothing other than popularity

Benny Benassi?

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and trance is (and never was) about popularity

This is what I meant in my initial post.

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Originally posted by JakeC it may be popularity but have you heard Benny Benassi DJ? he rocks.

yeah i went to one of his gigs a few months ago, just out of curiosity (SP?)....and he didnt really rock. his mixing was very good but his programming was absolute stink ......not that i dont like the type of music he plays, but he has absolutely no sense of sequence...
then again maybe it was just a bad day for him, but even if it was im 100% positive that he's definately not better than James Holden for example which is somewhere in the 30s....and even if he is better than holden, im 100% sure the only reason he got voted for was his "Satisfaction"

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Originally posted by JakeC so because i dont mind some average mixing and like the music im retarded. way to go.

No, because Tiesto-fans still keep claiming he's the BEST DJ around, and describe his actions behind the decks as something unique, legendary, extremely skillfull and absolutely impossible to repeat by any other DJ alive, while in fact it is far from all that...

As long as herds of Tiesto-followers don't stop believing and preaching that he actually IS the best DJ in the world (instead of the most popular, or your very own personal favourite), the bashing and "Tiesto-hating" will continue...

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Originally posted by ZuLi yeah i went to one of his gigs a few months ago, just out of curiosity (SP?)....and he didnt really rock. his mixing was very good but his programming was absolute stink ......not that i dont like the type of music he plays, but he has absolutely no sense of sequence... then again maybe it was just a bad day for him, but even if it was im 100% positive that he's definately not better than James Holden for example which is somewhere in the 30s....and even if he is better than holden, im 100% sure the only reason he got voted for was his "Satisfaction"

Satisfaction is definetly the reason why hes so high in this poll.

the poll is a joke.

i like his djing style and the stuff ive heard has all flowed well.

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Originally posted by Jasperovitsj No, because Tiesto-fans still keep claiming he's the BEST DJ around, and describe his actions behind the decks as something unique, legendary, extremely skillfull and absolutely impossible to repeat by any other DJ alive, while in fact it is far from all that... As long as herds of Tiesto-followers don't stop believing and preaching that he actually IS the best DJ in the world (instead of the most popular, or your very own personal favourite), the bashing and "Tiesto-hating" will continue...

i think youll find that makes them 'Uneducated' instead of flaming them why not try to educate them?

yes i know tiesto fans are ignorant but educating has gotta be better than flaming them.

what the hell is wrong with being a Tiesto fan

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Originally posted by Project 7 what the hell is wrong with being a Tiesto fan

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