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Posted by Amfora on Apr-18-2005 20:12:

Dj Renco & Amfora presents Third Section <-- Huge intro

Hi,

We are proud to present our new track. Its the first mix and we have to fix some little things. The track is a trancey one

http://www.d-m-e.nl/download/ThirdS...s(longclip).mp3

feedback would be great

Greets

Third Section


Posted by Romi on Apr-18-2005 20:28:

Very nice track. I like the strings, very well done. Good kick and bass, nice drive. I don't like the clap, it sounds a bit lo-fi imo. The synths are great. Melodies are good, a bit too standard i think but they are nice. The overall soundquality is very good, wish i could let my tracks sound like this one. Well, good job.


Posted by eulerfx on Apr-19-2005 08:12:

- the intro would sound better if the synths were all a bit fuller. like using more voices or adding another note in the chords at the bottom end
- the higher pitched notes of the strings should perhaps be a bit more prominent, so they are not over powered by the bottom end
- within the main beat, id work more with the hats and percs make them more interesting and less 'common'
- melodies are nice, but better programming would provide the much needed energy and punch


Posted by DjCommisad on Apr-19-2005 08:40:

for the intro, i'd phatten up the low end to add more atmosphere.

i'd maybe consider dropping a note or two out of that high freq sample in the early intro, maybe give it some echo with lowering volume, like a pin fall.

oops, let me rephrase, for the intro, phatten that synth!!

the bass is a bit loud imo.
the kick and percs are a bit metalic for my tastes, the kick sounds a bit flat, maybe go with a sharp kick? - nm, you changed that at 2:40ish, but it sounds a bit thin still.

i like the melody, but you drop that clap a bit early, run it another 32 imo. the 3-3:50 area sounds recycled with that clap dropping, sounds like you're stretching the track, but that's a matter of taste. (and im being an overly picky a*s tonight! )

i like the melody, and the atmosphere has definite potential.

lead into the break is a bit meh, fading out the layers like that doesn't sound right. sometimes the age old recipes work best.

love the piano. love the synth, needs a bit of work still. when coming into the break, let that awesome lead work its way up, or have the kick break off, rather than fade out.

a pleasant surprise at 6:30ish! I'd re-work the piano into this leading up to the build-up, again, taste

K, I'll stop hear before I write a friggen novel. I woudn't be this harsh if I didn't think this track has a lot of potential. Renco mate, sounding much better imo than stonefusion so far (no offense meant )


Posted by starstarman on Apr-19-2005 11:42:

Subjective opinion:

The progression is very nice and that melody over is well spotted in the trance part. I like the trance part more than the intro. As said above, the intro sounds a bit too pure to maintain the atmosphere going thru. The track can be worked out into an epic masterpiece. Good luck.


Posted by Dickie-T on Apr-19-2005 12:22:

i like it, especially the powerful synth


Posted by Amfora on Apr-19-2005 15:31:

thnx for all the comments, we will work on the intro (yeah it is a bit empty there)and the percusion.


Posted by djrenco on Apr-19-2005 15:36:

thanks for the great detailed comment Greg !! it will help us a lot i think...glad you like it!


Posted by Sunquest on Apr-19-2005 16:24:

Party Hat

great beats/bass, great strings, kinda theatrical hehe

kind of old ferry/tiesto style

only thing i can suggest is the main melody part starts wayyyyyyy too late, and maybe make a little more variation with the saw synth when it all hits...


Posted by _Marco_ on Apr-19-2005 17:54:

cool track , loved the intro & the overall sound even if it could use some more variations. Nice job


Posted by Nomen Nescio on Apr-19-2005 18:39:

Hey there,

Listened to the track. The soundquality is really outstanding, my compliments for that. The track itself doesn't really do much for me.The break is really nice but very weak, I was waiting for a euphoric build up during the break which too bad did not happen.

The leadsound is introduced and that is really nice, but again the melody is quite simple and with only the lead sound after the break the track sounds rather empty and flat. If you guys added another stringpart or riff the track would become fuller and more euphoric.

You should also use another kick, this sounds a bit to ploppy.

Overal a decent track which can become a good track if you polish it here and there.

Cheers,

Nomen Nescio


Posted by DjCommisad on Apr-19-2005 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunquest
great beats/bass, great strings, kinda theatrical hehe

kind of old ferry/tiesto style

only thing i can suggest is the main melody part starts wayyyyyyy too late, and maybe make a little more variation with the saw synth when it all hits...


hehe, ron hates long intros.. his are ususally 30 seconds

i like a nice epic intro once in awhile tho


Posted by Danny White on Apr-20-2005 20:36:

i would love a copy of this if you guys ever put it on vinyl just let me know be awesome for my sets


Posted by Amfora on Apr-20-2005 20:40:

thnx for the feedback, we still work on this one to make it a "masterpiece"

Srry Sunquest for the long intro We wont change that


Posted by Kenidel Lopez on Apr-20-2005 20:48:

I def like those epic strings you used.

You did a Great job EQing/Mastering imo.

The clap does sound a bit on the flat side (too short).

Rapid/Jumpy synths (too accomodate the bassline) may go along nice with the track.

-Kenidel Lopez


Posted by DjCommisad on Apr-20-2005 23:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Amfora
Srry Sunquest for the long intro We wont change that


hehe ron, i win! (kidding)


Posted by Mycron on Apr-20-2005 23:57:

good track, guys,

as i told you before, the intro needs some more elements + the percussion needs a proper eq, liking the melody

looking forward to the final version


Posted by Beautiful Beast on Apr-21-2005 11:39:

nice one! Is this made with Reason, FL or...?


Posted by Amfora on Apr-21-2005 18:58:

its created with : Cubase, reason 3 and a Roland jp8000


Posted by PDM on Apr-22-2005 01:14:

Definately, this is a matter of opinions, I'd advice you to follow suggestions in the technical part, but in the melody itself and how the song progresses, do what you feel.

I say so, because unlike the previous reviews, I do like the simple and long intro, is beautiful and calm, not always is necessary to have a bunch of elements to make an euphoric intro, it is a matter of mood and what kind of meesage you wanna carry.

I like the song how it is, I have no complaints about it, lets say, the track leans towards the listeners who enjoy listening to trance in their couches while taste a fine cocktail or wine, than for clubbers.

The tracks suits me just perfect.

Great Job, I wouldn't change anything.


Posted by Alekos on Apr-22-2005 06:01:

It sounds very Tiestoish, however it is a very nice track, as other people have said, the intro needs so work , it sounds quite empty imo.

Get rid off the kick right at the beginning of the break down, it sounded out of place.

I'm getting a great vide from this track, just keep working on it !
Keep up the amazing job mates
Cheers


Posted by Beautiful Beast on Apr-25-2005 09:39:

Amfora,

Sommelsdijk, waar ligt dat eigenlijk? (pardon my Dutch)

BB


Posted by Amfora on Apr-25-2005 15:36:

Sommelsdijk is a small town@goerree overflakkee, Zuid Holland


Posted by dj jasonF on Apr-25-2005 15:38:

the synth in the intro is perfect (pads too) imo... but if you add more fx when the bassdrum kicks in it will be a gr8 opener. mixing / mastering is verry good.i love the kick & bass. the sounds are fat in my headphones.

i agree with the fade out thing. doesnt sound "right" in this tune.. maybe if done a little diferent (with perc on top or w/e).

not in love with the lead, i mean its not bad it just isnt anything special. maybe a "banging" orchestral kinda string would be gr8 in the break. anyways a diffrend sound for the pad would be nice.

overall 8/10 . more fxs and stuff to add some feeling and make it interesting and im sure you can release this one guys


Posted by DJ-Igloo on Apr-25-2005 16:28:

Im missing some percs from the track if they were in they would be banging idk about the intro not 100% sure on it but sounds good so far keep it up .


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