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What are your opinions on this?
Re: iraq civilians killed by american soldiers
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| Originally posted by stk What are your opinions on this? |
If you put a link to the story people will be able to discuss it.
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| Originally posted by Dervish If you put a link to the story people will be able to discuss it. |
first I've heard of it
U.S. forces abuse and torture female detainees in Iraq
Iraqi female detainees say that they have been illegally detained, raped and sexually humiliated by U.S. occupation forces.
One female detainee, who identified herself as �Noor�, said that U.S. soldiers at Iraq�s Abu Ghraib raped women and, in many occasions, forced them to strip naked in public. She also said that many female detainees got pregnant.
The classified investigation launched by the U.S. army, led by Major General Antonio Taguba, confirmed Noor�s account and said that U.S. guards sexually abused female detainees at Abu Ghraib.
According to Taguba�s report, the 1,800 abuse photographs shot by U.S. guards inside Abu Ghraib included images of naked male and female prisoners, a male Military Police guard �having sex� with a female detainee, and naked male and female detainees forcibly arranged in various sexually explicit positions for photographing.
The Bush administration, which insists that these were the acts of a few soldiers, blocked the release of photographs of Iraqi women detainees at Abu Ghraib, including those of women forced to bare their breasts, although these have been shown to Congress.
However, Taguba�s fifty-three-page report, found that between October and December of 2003 there were numerous instances of �sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses� at Abu Ghraib�.
Also, a British MP, Ann Clwyd, confirmed a report that an Iraqi woman in her 70s had been harnessed and ridden like a donkey at Abu Ghraib after being captured last July. Clwyd said: �She was held for about six weeks without charge. During that time she was insulted and told she was a donkey.�
Moreover, the Italian reporter, Giuliana Sgrena, who was held hostage in Iraq, reported that in one incident, U.S. occupation forces raided the home of Mithal al Hassan, and arrested both her husband and son.
�The soldiers later ransacked the apartment. Denounced as part of a vendetta, Mithal was condemned without trial to eighty days of horror in the company of other women prisoners who, like her, were subjected to abuse and torture. She has since spotted her tormentors on the internet.�
Other reports state the U.S. forces violate international laws by kidnapping Iraqi women to use them as a bargaining chip to persuade their male relatives to surrender.
Iman Khamas, chief of the International Occupation Watch Center, a nongovernmental organization that gathers information on human rights abuses under occupation, said that �one former detainee had recounted the alleged rape of her cell mate in Abu Ghraib.�
According to Khamas, the detainee said that �She had been raped 17 times in one day�.
Attorney Amal Kadham Swadi, one of seven female lawyers representing women detainees at Abu Ghraib, says that abuse and torture against Iraqi women is not confined only to Abu Ghraib, but is �happening all across Iraq.�
�Sexualized violence and abuse committed by U.S. troops goes far beyond a few isolated cases,� she said.
http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=7681
It is so disgusting...
Wow, that's pretty fucked up. We (i.e. American public) may be kept in the dark about these crimes but the Iraqi ppl are not. This is how a terrorist is created. In this case, probably thousands of them.
But we're still going to have fuckin ignorant retards waving flags and deluding themselves with notions like "we're freeing the Iraqi people."
This administration has made Bin Ladens dream come true.
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| Originally posted by shaolin_Z This is how a terrorist is created. In this case, probably thousands of them. |
I feel so sorry for all those liberal Americans on this board. Even being from Australia I still get shitty with the Republicans own domestic policies, even though it has absolutely no bearing on my own life.. I couldnt imagine what it'd be to actually live in America, and how frustrating it must be.
it was bound to happen, the US stated how sadam was doing the same to his own people and how they would free them from this evil, now america is doing it allover again...how pathetic...
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| Originally posted by Trancer-X Seriously, though - how fucking evil are these people that they're so readily able to commit such malicious acts towards other human beings?! It makes me sick. |
If you ask me, I think the reported issues were actually intended by the US to happen. I mean think about it, think about our cultures. In our western society, people have a lot of self value and self image. So when someone gets captured here and you torture them, you do things to cause them personal pain, head games, mental torture ect...in attempts to break them and get info yadi yadi yadi....Ok now about mideast values....lots of religious values and values relating to a "greater" cause then the self...so would it not make sense that torturing them the way you would a westerner would not work? i mean these people strap bombs to themselves and sacrifice theirselves for their beliefs....do you think they give two shits if you harm them? nope...do whatever you want to them....but when you think of things like rape and public nudity these things are strictly against their religions...so if you torture them based on their values system, they would be more likely to crack? Im not saying that doing those things was right...but can you see what Im saying???? The US had to use alternative methods that would produce results, and when the usage of those tactics leaked the US had to cover it up as if it was a problem they were unaware of. Do you honestly think we or any one else follows the geneva convention except for when someone else is looking? Its like expecting a little kid not to steal a cookie out of the cookie jar even when no one is looking....in that case....Dubya is the fuckin cookie monster
TCrew
ofcourse it was intended:
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| Originally posted by zig Human Rights Watch has called for Donald Rumsfeld and George Tenet to be investigated for their possible role in abuses in Iraq. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4475133.stm |
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| Originally posted by TCrew Do you honestly think we or any one else follows the geneva convention except for when someone else is looking? Its like expecting a little kid not to steal a cookie out of the cookie jar even when no one is looking....in that case....Dubya is the fuckin cookie monster TCrew |
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| Originally posted by Dupz I feel so sorry for all those liberal Americans on this board. Even being from Australia I still get shitty with the Republicans own domestic policies, even though it has absolutely no bearing on my own life.. I couldnt imagine what it'd be to actually live in America, and how frustrating it must be. |
America is a nation in denial, the dominant force in a world that daily closes its eyes to the hard realities of corruption, discrimination, and outrageously specious rationalization.
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| Prosecutors Give Arguments in Marine Case AP - Sun May 1,11:17 AM ET CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C. - A Marine accused of murdering two Iraqi detainees intended to make an example of them by shooting them 60 times and hanging a sign over their bodies, prosecutors said Saturday during closing arguments in a pretrial hearing. |
Shooting 60 fuckin times to show an example?
Funny how they call the Iraqis animals 
Many of the soldiers there, the ones involved in war crimes like the above example, are fucking barbaric.
And then people bitch when the Iraqi's react to attrocities against them.
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