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Adrenaline feat. Lauren Bentle - Oceans Of Mixed Emotions (TMP mix)

Okey dokey...
Ive remixed the above track with kind permission from Adreneline,
I'd love to know what you all think, didnt get much feedback on my last project so hopefully you guys can give me some constructive criticism this time - how else am I going to improve???

Thanks for your time..

MP

Adreneline ft Lauren Bentle - Oceans of mixed Emotions (TMP mix)

nice vocals but you use them too much.
you should fatten up the pads more.
the acids are cool.
lead is nice.
is it just me or you raised the temp again at 3:34?? Not good...
It's nice but there isn't much veriation.

3/5

can u give me the vocalist's mail or something?
can she sing?

Thanks for the comments,I WILL take all comments on board - after all its you guys that know best!
In response - Ill take out some of the vocals, I did think I used them a lot, but didnt want the track to sound empty without them - will fill it out with some more pads,leads etc.

In regards to the tempo - It starts at 140Bpm, then at 2:04 i slow it down to 120Bpm with the breakbeat, then bring it back up to 130Bpm.

It was just something I wanted to experiment with - obviously not everyones cup of tea!!

Thanks for 3/5 !!


MP

PS - Dont know the vocalist - got a remix pack for the track (see title)

quote:

Originally posted by MessiahProject Thanks for the comments,I WILL take all comments on board - after all its you guys that know best! In response - Ill take out some of the vocals, I did think I used them a lot, but didnt want the track to sound empty without them - will fill it out with some more pads,leads etc. In regards to the tempo - It starts at 140Bpm, then at 2:04 i slow it down to 120Bpm with the breakbeat, then bring it back up to 130Bpm. It was just something I wanted to experiment with - obviously not everyones cup of tea!! Thanks for 3/5 !! MP PS - Dont know the vocalist - got a remix pack for the track (see title)

you don't change the tempo!
thats not proffesional thing to do.
ever seen a Push track that did that?
Or an airbase track?

I also have this remix pack.

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Originally posted by The Drow you don't change the tempo! thats not proffesional thing to do. ever seen a Push track that did that? Or an airbase track?

Since when has professional meant not changing tempo?
It sounds professional enough on 'Young Parisians - You write the rules'
I dont wish to be Push or Airbase. Isnt music all about originality?
I wanted to try something different, I can understand you have your opinions and obviously you dont like it, but dont use the word 'professional' when slagging off my track. I create stuff, and I try to add something original to it.

by the way - This is what 'professional' means -

1-A person following a profession, especially a learned profession.
2-One who earns a living in a given or implied occupation: hired a professional to decorate the house.
3-A skilled practitioner; an expert.
(cant see 'tempo changing' anywhere in there??)

MP

Any more constructive comments?

Adrenaline's cool he's on the CD I bought from Internet DJ, and he's on my msn.

quote:

Originally posted by MessiahProject Since when has professional meant not changing tempo? It sounds professional enough on 'Young Parisians - You write the rules' I dont wish to be Push or Airbase. Isnt music all about originality? I wanted to try something different, I can understand you have your opinions and obviously you dont like it, but dont use the word 'professional' when slagging off my track. I create stuff, and I try to add something original to it. by the way - This is what 'professional' means - 1-A person following a profession, especially a learned profession. 2-One who earns a living in a given or implied occupation: hired a professional to decorate the house. 3-A skilled practitioner; an expert. (cant see 'tempo changing' anywhere in there??) MP Any more constructive comments?

'Young Parisians - You write the rules' didn't do that.
I never heard a track that does that, imo it just ruins the song

I don't mind the tempo changing, if it sounds good keep it, there are no rules to muis producing really, if it sounds good and it's diferent then thats good. Although it's a bit too simple for me, not much variation , a little too repetitive.

The solarstone remix does - its on 'Infinite Euphoria' by Ferry Corsten,
Anyway - just because YOU have never heard it doesnt mean it doesnt happen!

I still stand by my original argument about originality.
Anyway - this is what Adrenaline said about my remix of his track -

"Hey mate that is awesome! I like what you've done with it.
As soon as i get all the remixes from all the artists that ive sent the
remix pack to, i am sending off a CD to Central Station Records, which
will give some of you the opportunity to have this track pressed and
released."


MP

Adrenaline asked me to remix it too, so I'll give it ago.

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Originally posted by MessiahProject The solarstone remix does - its on 'Infinite Euphoria' by Ferry Corsten, Anyway - just because YOU have never heard it doesnt mean it doesnt happen! I still stand by my original argument about originality. Anyway - this is what Adrenaline said about my remix of his track - "Hey mate that is awesome! I like what you've done with it. As soon as i get all the remixes from all the artists that ive sent the remix pack to, i am sending off a CD to Central Station Records, which will give some of you the opportunity to have this track pressed and released." MP

maybe ferry corsten changed the tempo?
I have the track right here.

To The Drow -

Ok my friend - heres a link to the version I have of 'You write the rules'
It sounds to me as if it slows down - a lot!
and it sounds amazing to me.
Have a listen and let me know!

**THE LINK**

MP

I already know the track

So you ARE aware the tempo slows half way through?
Maybe you have a different version to me, just download it and have a listen s oat least you get my point!

(at least this is getting my number of posts up!)


MP

yup this is the vocal version...
i have the dub.
anyway it goes smoother there then it does in your track.

Well at least you have admitted that professionals DO sometimes slow down the tempo in the middle of tracks!!

Its a start....

MP

I wanan take a lsiten, but th elinks dont work for me

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Originally posted by The Drow you don't change the tempo! thats not proffesional thing to do. ever seen a Push track that did that? Or an airbase track?

Ah, what an excellent display of rejecting creativity and originality!! You tit.

Airwave - 'Last Flight To Gaia' changes speed right down to 80bpm or something in the breakdown and sounds awesome, I've got a lot of other tracks that pull it off effectively as well.

Just because it's not done very often and is difficult to do well doesn't mean you can't do it! I don't think it's dire on this track, works better than most but I agree it's not perfect... what you could do (if you weren't so busy sucking cock) is just let him know you didn't think it works very well in THIS track and why, so that hopefully if he decides to try it again he can put a similar method to better use, thus quite possibly resulting in a better tune.


ANYWAY... on the subject of the tune in hand, got some cool ideas in it (I don't know the original I'm afraid), the vocal's a little bit loud and it could do with more percussion all round I think, but I tend to prefer things with a more driving feel which I think the kick you've used feels like it should have.

Nice sounds in the break, I agree it'd be nice if the pads were a bit stronger.

Is this the full version? I'd be interested to hear the track kick in again after the breakdown/slow down bit... unless it's just designed to go on the end of a set or something?

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Originally posted by Stu Cox Ah, what an excellent display of rejecting creativity and originality!! You tit.

Well said my friend!!
I post my stuff on here and hopefully get some constructive criticism and help so I can improve - as you have provided (thanx), and hopefully get to the stage where I am listening to all you experienced producers and getting somewhere near a finished track - how else am i supposed to get better.

Anyway, the tempo thing was something I wanted to try, and introduce some ambience into a harder trance track, I know that it IS done, although I now know that in my case it isnt done too well - somehting I can maybe work on. In regards to your other comments -

I have had to pack away all my monitors as I am moving home soon, so am mastering everything on headphones so have NO idea how things are sounding to you guys. The pads sound quite loud to me, will have to wait to get out my monitors again to really tell!

In regards to my percussion, Im not very good creating my own, but its something I definatley need to work on (and I will!)

It WAS the end of the track - but again ,listening to your comments I agree that it needs to get back to where it was at the beginning to be more DJ friendly - but at my stage of producing getting it pressed for a DJ is way off in the distance!!

Overall, thanks for the comments Stu - they are the sort of comments I need if im ever to get better.

No problem, happy to help

If you're finding percussion difficult, try using 1 or 2 relatively simple loop samples to pad out the sound a bit - to make them more your own, break them up into individual sounds and move them round a bit, but keep the same sounds in the loop as they obviously work well together. when you've got a better idea of how the sounds should work together you'll find it easier to create your own.

If your tracks aren't likely to be played by other DJs then how about keeping the arrangement of that track as it is and use it as an outro track for your own sets (if you DJ)? Excellent way to give a bit of originality to what you do.

I'd also suggest doing the most you can to get a track sounding good before you ask too many others to listen (like wait until you have access to your monitors again and mix it down) because you don't want people just telling you what you knew yourself (a certain sound not being loud enough or whatever) and also people will be reluctant to give feedback on a track they've already heard and given feedback on, even if you do say that it's been updated.

Just a couple of thoughts.

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