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Sinners unhappy with new Pope
This article is just so ironic on its own. No comment.
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CLARIFICATION: Sinners unhappy with new pope Fri, Apr. 22, 2005 by STEPHEN J. LEE Grand Forks Herald http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grand...al/11458109.htm Comments about the new pope by former North Dakota Gov. George and Jane Sinner on Wednesday appeared incomplete compared to a reference to them. The 1A reference said the former governor felt Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was a "reactionary choice who won't lead the church in a progressive way," but Sinner's edited comments on 5A didn't support that reference. Here's how the Sinners explained their disappointment Tuesday: "He's always been considered pretty reactionary and maybe even overly reactionary," George Sinner said. "It was an insiders' election and that's the way they go. Ratzinger has been behind a good deal of the really reactionary stuff that has come out the last few years. He's been a harsh advocate of birth control and more traditional views of some churchmen, and certainly very outspoken against married clergy and women clergy." "But there's hope, I suppose, in things changing when lives change." George Sinner added that he described what he called the legalism of Ratzinger as "the gospel of faith, hope and law, rather than the gospel of faith, hope and love." Jane Sinner said Ratzinger's election confirmed her decision last year to quit the church in which she had been born, baptized, confirmed, married and raised 10 children. The last straw, she said, were reports during last year's presidential campaign that some Catholic bishops said that political candidates who support abortion rights and voters who support such candidates should avoid the communion table, or be turned away. Reviewing the substance of her letter last year to the Forum of Fargo-Moorhead explaining why she left the church, Jane Sinner said "it had been very hypocritical for bishops on one hand to harbor pedophiles, abusers and thieves under the constitutional umbrella of separation of church and state ... while on the other hand, the bishops have defied the separation of church and state and used their authority to give voting instructions and ultimatums to church members. That was very disturbing to me." Jane Sinner said she was referring to, among other things, a case several years ago of a North Dakota priest who allegedly stole money from his parish but was not prosecuted because the local state's attorney agreed with the bishop that it was a church, not state, matter. |
"new pope" lol
Humans are a fuckin joke. Dumb fucks
people still believe in religion?
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King "new pope" lol Humans are a fuckin joke. Dumb fucks |
1/2 dumbfuck
Cant you look at the Catholic Religion, without judging its contents. Culture is beautiful. I love talking about theology and spiritualty, to me seeing how someone views their reality is so interesting. Now if you feel you must show this person to see your point, then challenge their thought.
If you find that God created earth over 3000 years ago to be crap, then you bring up geology. Now they may challenge you with their adaption to new thoughts such as evolution and darwinism. Then you bring when the dinosaurs died their was only one species who survied, which soon walked out of the sea and evolved into humans. Their are so many questions to ask any religion.
Mine would be, Why whould you believe in a couple houndred men getting together, in (Mark Rich, KEN LAY, or Dick Cheney) style housing, and actually believe that god infulinced their vote because god has a plan with this pope.
Before I get to off topic, I just wanted to state that by negating thought, you have just created a force which has a reaction. Somthing tells me you wanted that. To me it breaks down to this, as a species we are evolving. Now this can be seen by our adaption to the surroundings. Understanding where we come from is one of the main driving forces that is changing paradigms of thought. You can either be positive like John Lenon or negative like Lenin. Both crated thought with similar traits, but different effects on society.
I thought this was pretty funny:
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Pope 'prayed not to be elected' Benedict XVI meets other faith leaders Monday, April 25, 2005 Posted: 1619 GMT (0019 HKT) VATICAN CITY -- Pope Benedict XVI has revealed he prayed to God during the conclave not to be elected pope but that "evidently this time He didn't listen to me." Benedict made the comments at an audience Monday with German pilgrims, who enthusiastically greeted the first German pope in centuries. A smiling Benedict shook the pilgrims' hands and blessed a child given to him before taking his seat in the audience hall and starting his speech. Speaking in his native German, Benedict told the audience that during the conclave, or papal election, when it became clear he was getting many votes, a cardinal passed him a note reminding him what he had preached about Christ calling Peter to follow him even if he was reluctant to go. Benedict, 78, said he hoped to spend his last years living quietly and peacefully. "At a certain point, I prayed to God 'please don't do this to me,"' he recalled. "Evidently, this time He didn't listen to me." Benedict was elected pope on April 19 after four rounds of balloting in 24 hours, one of the fastest elections in a century. He had gone in as a leading candidate, but at 78 he was considered old to be named pope. Benedict was interrupted several times by applause, and he seemed to enjoy the welcome from his fellow countrymen, smiling often. "Benedict sent from God," the crowds chanted, according to AP. In German, the chant rhymes: "Benedict Gott Geschickt." After calling for unity in his inauguration address, the pope made meeting leaders of other faiths who attended his installation his first public duty Monday. Following the mid-morning ecumenical gathering at the Vatican, the new pope was to receive many of the estimated 100,000 Germans who journeyed to Rome to attend Sunday's Mass in St. Peter's Square, in which the first German in centuries was officially installed as pontiff. Religious leaders who attended the ceremony included the Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams; Metropolitan Chrisostomos, a top envoy for Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I, the spiritual leader of the world's Christian Orthodox Church; and a senior representative of the Russian Orthodox Church, Metropolitan Kirill. (Full story) Most Jewish leaders could not attend the Mass to formally invest the former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger as pope as it clashed with the week-long Passover holiday. Benedict, who has a reputation as a hard-liner for leading Vatican crackdowns on Catholic dissenters, said in his homily Sunday that he wanted to shape his papacy by being a "listener" and not set off by imposing his own ideas. Since being elected pope on Tuesday, 78-year-old Benedict has sought a more inclusive image. During his homily, the new pontiff said he wished to reach out to Jews and "believers and non-believers alike," and asked for prayers from the St. Peter's Square onlookers as he assumed "this enormous task."(Full text of homily) "Let us do all we can to pursue the path toward the unity you have promised," he said. "Grant that we may be one flock and one shepherd. Do not allow your net to be torn. Help us to be servants of unity." He noted "a great shared spiritual heritage" with Jews, whom he called "brothers and sisters." Benedict's effort to reach out to Jews carries an added dimension because of his membership in the Hitler Youth and later as a German army conscript during World War II. He said he was forced into participating. The pope made no direct overture to Muslims, but he said that "like a wave gathering force, my thoughts go out to all men and women of today, to believers and nonbelievers alike." One question Vatican watchers are asking is if the 78-year-old pope will keep up John Paul's world-spanning travel. U.S. Cardinal Justin Rigali, the archbishop of Philadelphia, said he was confident the pontiff would rise to the challenge. "We are very impressed by his extraordinary energy," Rigali told CNN. Rigali said American bishops are also looking to the pope to help them confront the fallout from priest sex abuse scandals in the U.S. church. He said he was confident Benedict "will do everything possible to support the bishops of the United States in their efforts to extricate, to eradicate, to wipe out any of this abuse that has indeed taken place and that is deplorable." Dignitaries attending Sunday's ceremony under heavy security included German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, Prince Albert II of Monaco and Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, the U.S. president's brother. More than 350,000 people -- including up to 100,000 Germans -- and hundreds of state and religious leaders from around the world gathered in and around the square, the Vatican said. (Full story) Benedict XVI said his predecessor Pope John Paul II was "at home" among the saints in heaven, but stopped short of calling for his canonization. After his death on April 2, there have been popular calls, as well as calls from some prelates, for John Paul to be made a saint swiftly. http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/e...nday/index.html |
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| Originally posted by occrider God seems to be a pretty sadistic guy. I kinda like him. |
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| "At a certain point, I prayed to God 'please don't do this to me,"' he recalled. "Evidently, this time He didn't listen to me." |
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