Rogers 60 GIG U/D Limit -- Anyone actually got a Warning about this ?

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Posted by Kytracid on Apr-24-2005 21:55:

Rogers 60 GIG U/D Limit -- Anyone actually got a Warning about this ?

We're at 90gigs for the month - Yeah, yeah I know right.

Well seeing as we went over 60 gigs and didn't get any warnings last month i decided to test if Rogers is actually serious about the warning letter and then cutting off service if you exceed the limit.

What i wanna know is have people been monitoring how much they download Or have are you guys calling Rogers bluff as well ? Has anyone actually been disconnected ? If so -- what area are you guys living in, cause it seems our area doesn't have that many leeches on the hub since we've been raping bandwidth for the last year or so and no one from Rogers has contacted us about it...

Currently on Rogers Xtreme connection -- and taking full advantage downloading all that warez, appz, pr0n and musak.

PS. Deleting it 24 hours later cause it's all for educational purposes only.

Posted by Jayx1 on Apr-24-2005 21:56:

dloading caps are bullshit...

Posted by Kytracid on Apr-24-2005 21:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
dloading caps are bullshit...

For the first time -- i'm in full agreement with ya.

Posted by arek on Apr-24-2005 22:01:

myth.

Posted by Kytracid on Apr-24-2005 22:03:

Serious replies only, please. I need to know if i should just go crazy and download everything i want in the next few days cause we're already getting the warning -- or hold back and try to restrain the torrent whores i live with.

Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-24-2005 22:10:

might wanna try checking here too ..

http://www.canadianisp.com/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi

Posted by Kytracid on Apr-24-2005 22:22:

^^^
Thanks for the tip, although there's only one post that's relavant to my question -- and that's not much help either with only 2 responses.

Personally, I don't think Rogers is that serious about enforcing this new limit -- it's a deterent, more then a hardline rule. At least that's the assumption i've been operating under for the past few weeks.

Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-24-2005 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
^^^
Thanks for the tip, although there's only one post that's relavant to my question -- and that's not much help either with only 2 responses.

Personally, I don't think Rogers is that serious about enforcing this new limit -- it's a deterent, more then a hardline rule. At least that's the assumption i've been operating under for the past few weeks.

here's another link that you might find a lot more useful ..

http://www.rbua.org/board/

here's one thread about it .. i'm sure there's gotta be more info there somewhere as well ..

http://www.rbua.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=1&TID=5421

Posted by monishb on Apr-24-2005 22:33:

no i havent gone past it, i use extreme as well. so i cant say

Posted by Surreal JRS on Apr-24-2005 23:23:

I posted this in the Rogers 60GB Monthly Bandwidth Cap thread a while back.
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=244657

quote:
Originally posted by Surreal JRS
Think again, my buddy got cut off a while back for extreme excessive usage. This was the warning email he was sent (which he ignored):

quote:

From: Rogers Support < [email protected][/email] >
Reply-To: Rogers Support < [email][email protected] >
To: *removed*@rogers.com

Dear Steve Pike ,

An important message from Rogers Hi-Speed Internet

We would like to advise you that there has been excessive usage on your
Rogers Hi-Speed Internet account which is in violation of our end user
agreement with you. Under our agreement, you are required to use the
service in a way that does not create an unusually large burden on our
network.

Rogers has a responsibility to ensure that all of its customers
experience a high quality of service and performance when using Rogers
Hi-Speed Internet. Your usage consumes a disproportionate share of our
network's resources which has a negative impact on network performance.
In fact, you fall within the category of less than 1% of our residential
customers whose usage exceeds that of the average customer by well over
2000%.

Please be advised that it is important that your account's usage returns
to reasonable levels. Unfortunately, unless your usage pattern
significantly changes starting in the next two days, we will have no
choice but to suspend your Internet account for a period of seven days.

The following activities may be increasing your usage:

* Engaging in peer-to-peer file sharing;

* Running servers; or

* Installing shareware that compromises your computer's security.

In addition to addressing the above activities, here are some guidelines
that may assist you with managing your usage of our Internet service:

* Make all users of your account aware of the content of this e-mail and
consider the extent of their usage;

* Install virus protection software and regularly scan your PC(s) to
ensure that you have downloaded the most recent versions of such
software; and

* Familiarize yourself with all provisions of our agreement with you
(particularly prohibited uses of Rogers Hi-Speed Internet).

Thank you for your attention.

Rogers Hi-Speed Internet

I'm allowed to expense $50 + tax for home Internet access, so I don't mind spending extra for more usage. If (when) I get my first warning, I'll be sure to discuss the options with Rogers.

Other options:

Bell Sympatico currently has no usage caps, although Rogers may have set precedent in the industry.

There are also many 3rd parties who rent DSLAMs from Bell and sell their own ADSL services (traffic is switched to their network via Bell's ATM cloud).

A few I can think of with unlimited usage (in no particular order):

THT (www.tht.net)
Look Communications (www.look.ca)
MyCybernet (www.mycybernet.net)

And there are many others...

Posted by Surreal JRS on Apr-24-2005 23:27:

Oh, and don't forget to check out the new Rogers site...

http://www.ihaterogers.ca/

Posted by smuncky on Apr-25-2005 02:58:

i went over the limit 2 times. once by 10gigs and once by 15gigs and i didnt get any warnings or anything.

btw, their usage measurement tool on their website is wrong. it always shows less than what you actually have, which im not complaining about

Posted by Surreal JRS on Apr-25-2005 04:46:

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky
btw, their usage measurement tool on their website is wrong. it always shows less than what you actually have, which im not complaining about

Yeah, I have *much* more accurate graphs by polling my router's WAN interface via SNMP, and then graphing the output with MRTG.

Posted by Jer on Apr-25-2005 05:07:

quote:
Originally posted by arek
myth.

REALITY.

You're given 3 warnings if I'm not mistaken, and after the third Rogers has the right to sever your connection.

Posted by Surreal JRS on Apr-25-2005 05:38:

quote:
Originally posted by ZeroVII
after the third Rogers has the right to sever your connection.

Yep. My aforementioned buddy called around to a few "unlimited" DSL providers asking if he could push 140+GB/mo. Most of them laughed and said their service was not *that* unlimited. Except for Look Communications who said no problem to using whatever you can.

My buddy worked out the following deal:

$59/mo (2 year contract) gets him:

- TRUE unlimited transfer.
- 4Mbps down and 896Kbps up.
- a static /28 block of IPs. (16 total, 14 usable)
- Reverse Delegation to his name server for his IP block.

Assuming you could push the max 4Mbps/896Kbps for the entire month, that would be approximately 1.5 terabytes of transfer. Go go gadget torrents!