Live trance and electronica? (newb: How is it done?)

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Posted by matt_j on Apr-25-2005 04:29:

Live trance and electronica? (newb: How is it done?)

I'm a newb to this kinda stuff, and I lack the funds to become a DJ or any other sort of electronic music artist beside the software on my computer. I just watched the Underworld Everything DVD, and I'm wondering...

- What's involved in putting on that sort of show?
- What are the guys in front of the computers and mixers actually doing?
- How does creating new music on-the-fly really work?

Thanks!

Posted by xstalkrx on Apr-25-2005 04:42:

As a DJ you dont really create new music on the fly. Even I, as a nub, know that. DJs may tweak and manipulate tracks live with their mixer, but I've never seen new music created live on the fly. Some DJ's can make a track sound completly different depending on what they want to do with it. I was watching a Mauro Piccoto (sp.) set, and he was using his mixer heavily to create a completely different sound than what you would hear if he just put the vinyl on the deck and let it spin.

Posted by matt_j on Apr-25-2005 04:45:

Makes sense.

Posted by xstalkrx on Apr-25-2005 04:48:

Use whatever P2P software you have, if you have any, and do a video search for artists like ATB, Tiesto, Cosmic Gate, Blank and Jones, Johan Gielen, etc. Sometimes on the videos they give you a good look at what the DJ is doing with the mixer so you can see and hear the difference.

Posted by Allied Nations on Apr-25-2005 05:05:

you guys are way off base, he means live acts, like infusion, underworld, NU-NRG, etc

these guys load the materials in the computers, tweak and adjust individual layers of the songs in real time, play intruments live, keyboards, synths, etc, sing and make drum loops, or load up different samples on the fly.

i dont know how its done, but i would imagine it requires a lot of time and effort, and nowadays, lots of the same things can be done on ableton, its the new hybrid of djing..

oh and BTW, Everything Everything is one of my fav dvds ever.

Posted by DJ_TWiLiGHT on Apr-25-2005 05:18:

The craziest hybrid-style group out there is by far Uber Zone. Those ******s can tear into anything.

Posted by Project 7 on Apr-25-2005 07:21:

Check out some Rank 1 movies.

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Apr-25-2005 16:32:

Some pussy acts don't really play live. They just have a computer and they choose which layers and loops play when. That isn't live music.

Real live acts play all the keyboards, guitars and vocals live, and quite often use live drummers to provide the beats too. I.e they cut the amount of programmed stuff to the absolute minimum, usually crucial synth effects and so on.

Posted by auranaut on Apr-25-2005 18:26:

quote:
Originally posted by xstalkrx
I was watching a Mauro Piccoto (sp.) set, and he was using his mixer heavily to create a completely different sound than what you would hear if he just put the vinyl on the deck and let it spin.

Oh, wow!

Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-25-2005 18:35:

quote:
Originally posted by auranaut
Oh, wow!

asshole lol...

In a way its very different from a Rap & Hip hop concert. But in a way it isnt.

Like most live sets from nu nrg and such heavily rely on pre set midis, and stuff that is set up way before they come to the stage. So they dont exactly do all the work.

But as you will see with a rap tour, they always have a dj.

As if you take the people that work behind the scenes with the mixing & levels in a rock concert it will probably sound like crap.

All in all, no music live will really sound as good as it is on a cd, because of the mastering that is used.

Posted by NuDarkBeat on Apr-25-2005 22:25:

quote:
Originally posted by xstalkrx
As a DJ you dont really create new music on the fly. Even I, as a nub, know that. DJs may tweak and manipulate tracks live with their mixer, but I've never seen new music created live on the fly. Some DJ's can make a track sound completly different depending on what they want to do with it. I was watching a Mauro Piccoto (sp.) set, and he was using his mixer heavily to create a completely different sound than what you would hear if he just put the vinyl on the deck and let it spin.

dude dont talk if you dont know what your talking about. dino express has the idea.

Posted by djdimensions on Apr-25-2005 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Project 7
Check out some Rank 1 movies.

+1 those guys make songs at the damn spot sometimes