insurgents digging their own grave?

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Posted by josh4 on May-02-2005 02:39:

insurgents digging their own grave?

Iraq Car Blast at Funeral Leaves 25 Dead

these blatant attacks against their own people must be having a big impact on them and their cause in the eyes of the Iraqi people. i'd say they're in quite the conundrum because this will just cause the new government and Iraqi citizens to loathe them and become emboldened to push forward with establishing a new government and ridding the country of all insurgents. these bombings seem like they're designed to instill fear of defiance that i would expect the Iraqi people to resent because it can be related to similar methods of control used by Saddam

Posted by St_Andrew on May-02-2005 02:59:

Re: insurgents digging their own grave?

Problem is that the american forcese kills a lot of ppl too....

Posted by josh4 on May-02-2005 03:50:

well ya but the point still being this makes the only way out is for them to step up and take control

Posted by occrider on May-02-2005 05:15:

In my eyes they're digging their own graves not in the sense that civilians will turn away from them, but in the sense that a civil war will ensue. I envisage cooperation between the Shiites and the Kurds in isolating and cracking down on the Sunni population. I think this will lead to not only a lot of innocent Sunni deaths but insurgents as well. Really, I don't see how all the attacks can play out well for the insurgents. If civil war ensues they ultimately lose despite their desires to displace the government ...

It would only work if the insurgents were a majority of the population.

Posted by josh4 on May-02-2005 05:57:

are the insurgents a single entity with a sense of structure and leadership or random vigilante groups just out to cause trouble with ultimate goals they might believe to be obtainable but in reality they are motivated by blind faith in something that will never be as least as they see it?

views on the possibility of a Tet Offensive?

Posted by occrider on May-02-2005 06:10:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
are the insurgents a single entity with a sense of structure and leadership or random vigilante groups just out to cause trouble with ultimate goals they might believe to be obtainable but in reality they are motivated by blind faith in something that will never be as least as they see it?

views on the possibility of a Tet Offensive?

I think of them as many disorganized groups losely coordinated and consolidated through a variety of reasons each different. As for a tet offensive, one can only hope so long as the public can withstand it (it decimated the NVA). The tet offensive was a dramatic tactical failure that succeeded only in the sense that it swayed strategic interests (the interest of the general populace).

Posted by smokeape on May-04-2005 01:31:

I go with Occrider and also see the need for a strong and continuing US presence while the country tries to develop a government. We can ill afford to start pulling out until the government has a stronghold.

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