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Posted by jonze on May-05-2005 15:23:

Cinco de Mayo

time to celebrate




Posted by SID133 on May-05-2005 16:20:




Posted by kopi_luwak on May-05-2005 16:47:

Viva Mexico cabrones!
Kopi =o.


Posted by XoxidE on May-05-2005 17:08:

hahaha, im protesting right now!

im sopposed to be in school this minute but ppl have heard rumors that this celebration isnt going to be celebrated anymore at my school since it isnt a national holiday...so im at home right now...im bored...

also, protesting becuase we celebrated it yesterday, the 4th, because of some ppl testing or something...also that the entertainment wasent avaliable on the 5th...

i needs me something to do...im bored


Posted by Orbax on May-05-2005 20:02:

>: D


Posted by Zenchowdah on May-05-2005 20:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
>: D


and orbax has been drunk since monday.


Posted by hoangad on May-05-2005 21:37:

happy independence day to the aztecs and mayans.


Posted by squirrelly on May-05-2005 21:58:

At work we put up Cinco De Mayo signs... they say "No Corona No Fiesta!"


Posted by Estella on May-05-2005 23:47:

Viva Mexico !

Salud !!


Posted by DJ_Bananie on May-06-2005 00:01:

can someone explain where this whole "tradition" came from?


Posted by Krypton on May-06-2005 00:10:

im tired of telling people in that cinco de mayo is not the mexican independence day, but a celebration of a battle over the french.


Posted by Estella on May-06-2005 00:20:

quote:
Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
im tired of telling people in that cinco de mayo is not the mexican independence day, but a celebration of a battle over the french.


Viva las personas que ganaron !


Posted by jonze on May-06-2005 03:34:

quote:
Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
im tired of telling people in that cinco de mayo is not the mexican independence day, but a celebration of a battle over the french.


*insert witty comment about not being special for beating the french


Posted by sensorium on May-06-2005 04:19:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Bananie
can someone explain where this whole "tradition" came from?


Cinco de Mayo commemorates the defeat of the French army by the Mexicans at The Battle Of Puebla in 1862.

The Significance of "Cinco de Mayo"

The Mexican holiday known as "Cinco de Mayo" is widely misconstrued in this country, even by people of Mexican descent. Other people do not seem to care about the origin and cultural significance of Cinco de Mayo, they simply see it as an opportunity to go out and get drunk on Mexican beer at reduced prices. Despite its commercialization, this holiday is of importance to many people. This writing will attempt to clarify the meaning of this holiday and return some significance to a day that has lost most of it to the advertisement industry of this country.

The biggest misconception about Cinco de Mayo is that it commemorates of M�xico's Independence Day. That holiday is, in fact, celebrated on September 16. On that date back in 1810, Father Miguel Hidalgo issued a proclamation known as "El Grito de Dolores" that united the many different rebellions going on against Spain into one cohesive struggle. M�xico achieved its independence from Spanish rule in 1821. Cinco de Mayo is actually a commemoration of a victory by Mexican troops in La Batalla de Puebla more that fifty years later, on May 5, 1862.

From the time of Mexican Independence in 1821 to the time of this battle in 1862, M�xico suffered numerous setbacks in its attempts to form a stable republic, and endured several incursions into its sovereignty as an independent nation. Fifteen years into its independence, Texas seceded from M�xico. The Texas Revolt was led by "American-Mexicans," Anglos who immigrated from the United States to M�xico, promising to obey Mexican laws and respect Mexican traditions. This revolt eventually led to the Mexican-American War (1846-1848), a war won by the U. S. As a result, M�xico was forced to surrender approximately half of its territory to the U. S. M�xico, which had never been financially stable, underwent a severe economic crisis during the 1850s.

President Benito Ju�rez inherited M�xico's troubled political and financial situation, which included a bankrupt Mexican treasury. As a result of these problems, President Ju�rez issued a moratorium in 1861 halting payments on Mexican foreign debt. Much of this debt was owed to France. Shortly thereafter, France sent troops to M�xico to secure payment of its debt.

At the time, the French Army of Napoleon III was considered the premier army in the world. It had enjoyed recent victories throughout Europe and Asia. The French expected to march form the port city of Veracruz to Mexico City without encountering much resistance. President Ju�rez sent troops, under the command of General Ignacio Zaragosa, to Puebla to confront the French. The Mexican troops consisted almost entirely of indigenous soldiers, much like today. General Zaragosa's troops, outnumbered 4,700 to 5,200, were severely under-equipped. La Batalla de Puebla raged on for two hours, after which time the French were forced to retreat to Orizaba. Despite tremendous odds, the humble Mexican Army defeated the most powerful fighting unit in the world!

One year after La Batalla de Puebla, the French brought in more troops and re-attacked. This time they were able to make their way to Mexico City, take the capital, and install Emperor Maximilian of Hapsburg as the reigning monarch of M�xico. Maximilian ruled M�xico for about four years, until his execution in 1867 by troops loyal to President Ju�rez, who regained power.

Although La Batalla de Puebla on Cinco de Mayo was rendered militarily insignificant by the French's subsequent victory, it did inject the Mexican people with pride and patriotism it had never before enjoyed. Since its independence from Spain in 1821, M�xico had suffered one tragedy after another. La Batalla de Puebla was the first time that the Mexican pueblo could rally around a common cause and proudly proclaim, ��Yo soy Mexicano!�

Cinco de Mayo is not celebrated in M�xico to the same extent that it is by Chicanos in the U. S., mainly because El 16 de septiembre is seen as the more important holiday. The reason that Chicanos celebrated the holiday is that we appreciate its cultural significance (victory in the face of great odds and the patriotism it generated) more that its historical relevance. Also, General Ignacio Zaragosa, the leader at La Batalla de Puebla, was born in Texas while it was still part of M�xico. For this reason, he is considered by many to be the first Chicano hero. Some scholars, including Jos� Antonio Burciaga, believe that had the French defeated M�xico at Puebla, France would have aided the South in the American Civil War in order to free Southern ports of the Union Blockade. During this time, Confederate General Robert E. Lee was enjoying success, and French intervention could have had an impact on the Civil War. It seems that even people not of Mexican descent may also have an indirect reason to celebrate Cinco de Mayo. Whatever the case may be, people should realize that this holiday does have some historical and cultural significance to millions of people and that not everyone considers it an excuse to go out and party.

Send your comments to Ignacio Gonz�lez at [email protected]

� 1996 Ignacio Gonz�lez

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Celebrating Cinco de Mayo has become increasingly popular along the U.S.-Mexico border and in parts of the U.S. that have a high population of people with a Mexican heritage. In these areas the holiday is a celebration of Mexican culture, of food, music, beverage and customs unique to Mexico.

Commercial interests in the United States and Mexico have also been successful in promoting the holiday, with products and services focused on Mexican food, beverages and festivities, with music playing a more visible role as well. Several cities throughout the U.S. hold parades and concerts during the week following up to May 5th, so that Cinco de Mayo has become a bigger holiday north of the border than to the south, and adopted into the holiday calendar of more and more people every year.

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�Viva M�xico!
�Viva el 5 de mayo!
�Viva Ju�rez!

Happy celebrating.


Posted by SID133 on May-06-2005 04:33:

quote:
Originally posted by jonze234
*insert witty comment about not being special for beating the french


Posted by DjDeComp on May-06-2005 06:22:

Only had one beer today


Posted by Orbax on May-06-2005 06:38:

tribu dont be a fag. Ill stop listening to you



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