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Posted by Jayx1 on May-07-2005 17:42:

Calling all web designers...... Help us save nightlife in Toronto

b4-koz and I have concluded that the current situation with nightclubs is most likely going to get worse before it gets better. Although now is not the time to make some noise at city hall, we want to be prepared in case the time does come. All it takes is one more incident at a club (or banquet hall/donut shop or whatever the media decides to call a club). If this happens you know that this will turn out the same way as the pitbulls did.

What we need to do is create a website for if and when the time arises that we need to organize and preserve our way of life. The problem is that b4-koz and i are both useless when it comes to web design. If you love your scene and you are willing to donate time to help create a website to prepare in the event that we need to organize, please contact either b4-koz or myself.

The time to act is now or else we will end up living the lives that everyone else forces upon us.


Posted by DigDeep on May-07-2005 19:16:

I cant speak for all clubs, but Boa is better than it has ever been and is continuing to grow.....


Posted by Jayx1 on May-07-2005 19:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
I cant speak for all clubs, but Boa is better than it has ever been and is continuing to grow.....



i think you missed the point entirely... but nice plug


Posted by LKD on May-07-2005 19:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
i think you missed the point entirely... but nice plug






sorry Jeff...its true...



oh btw...Swamper jsut told me yesterday that hes got nothing to do now since hes handing TA over to someone else so he might be game for the job


Posted by infinity HiGH on May-07-2005 20:51:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee




sorry Jeff...its true...



oh btw...Swamper jsut told me yesterday that hes got nothing to do now since hes handing TA over to someone else so he might be game for the job


Swamper is giving TA away...?

And Jeff, lol...u know I love Boa and only wish for the best for you guys, but if City Hall decides to seriously talk about this then the situation will be very different.


Posted by DigDeep on May-07-2005 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
i think you missed the point entirely... but nice plug


like i need to plug.... im just stating what i see, from my perspective. you said 'the current situation with nightclubs', when really i think the only club in danger of having to change anything is the docks.


Posted by Tordan on May-07-2005 21:05:

After that single mom shooting incident a few weeks ago the politicians are targetting all after hours clubs. It's the island dwellers that are causing problems for the Docks right now.


Posted by St_Andrew on May-07-2005 21:08:

http://www.petitiononline.com/petition.html perhaps?


Posted by infinity HiGH on May-07-2005 21:09:

Have online petitions ever worked?


Posted by St_Andrew on May-07-2005 21:16:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Have online petitions ever worked?


Yeah, it can turn the media around when they realise there is ppl thinking the opposite of what they wrote...

hate to always compare to sweden, but a couple of month ago there was a drug raid towards a trance cruise there (huge thing in sweden), and the media/police went crazy and said lots of stuff that had nothing to do with reality... so a guy (from TA) started a petition, and got like a 1000 ppl to sign it or so, and he sent it to the media, and they started to write from our point of view too! so i guess it could work! could easily get a lot more ppl to sign it in toronto too!


Posted by rabbitjoker on May-07-2005 21:30:

The venue owners (who are the main stakeholders) should be organizing and financing some sort of awareness campaign.

Hand a flyer out addressing the issue with action items as patrons leave the venue.

Sign patrons up for email lists to get notified of developments/etc when they enter the venue.

Use the ZOOM bathroom spots for public awareness messages.

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As much as it is our "lifestyle" at stake - it is their BUSINESS at stake. I'd expect the whole industry to come together and organize a full assault on politicians, patrons and surrounding businesses.


Posted by Jayx1 on May-07-2005 23:21:

It will definately take some help from the owners but if it appears that THE VOTING PUBLIC is angry by this it's only then that politicians will really care.

The only way to make politicians care is to show them numbers and relate it to their future as a politician.


Posted by Jayx1 on May-07-2005 23:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
like i need to plug.... im just stating what i see, from my perspective. you said 'the current situation with nightclubs', when really i think the only club in danger of having to change anything is the docks.


If you dont stand up for the rights of others who will be left to stand up for your rights?

This isnt about the docks or boa. Its about how the media and the politicians are already starting to target clublife as their latest pet project to make people think they are doing something for public safety. I believe the last creme de jour was pitbull banning.

Without unity and solidarity from ALL people in the scene then we will get nowhere. I know it sounds hippyish but its true.


Posted by infinity HiGH on May-08-2005 00:52:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
The venue owners (who are the main stakeholders) should be organizing and financing some sort of awareness campaign.

Hand a flyer out addressing the issue with action items as patrons leave the venue.

Sign patrons up for email lists to get notified of developments/etc when they enter the venue.

Use the ZOOM bathroom spots for public awareness messages.

-------

As much as it is our "lifestyle" at stake - it is their BUSINESS at stake. I'd expect the whole industry to come together and organize a full assault on politicians, patrons and surrounding businesses.


Hah! Great thinking RJ. Like a true business man I had a lot of similar idea's. I think a lot of clubbers would actually give this some attention.


Posted by Jem_hadar on May-08-2005 04:27:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Hah! Great thinking RJ. Like a true business man I had a lot of similar idea's. I think a lot of clubbers would actually give this some attention.


indeed thats a fantastic idea.

rj's ideas and thoughts always surprise and amazing me.


Posted by Jayx1 on May-08-2005 16:14:

So we have one person willing to help with the site.

Anyone else?

And the reason for the site will be a focus point for literature and advertising such as what was mentioned before. Also it would be a place where people could go to find out how they can take action themselves whether it be through letter writing or demonstrations.


Posted by amb_ on May-08-2005 16:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
So we have one person willing to help with the site.

Anyone else?

And the reason for the site will be a focus point for literature and advertising such as what was mentioned before. Also it would be a place where people could go to find out how they can take action themselves whether it be through letter writing or demonstrations.


My company would be willing to participate at a reduced rate in developing a dynamic website that would serve as such a focal point.

PM or MSN me.


Posted by b4k-oz on May-08-2005 17:08:

quote:
Originally posted by amb_
My company would be willing to participate at a reduced rate in developing a dynamic website that would serve as such a focal point.

PM or MSN me.


Hmmmmmmm I like RJ's input...Jay we shud discuss ^^^ offer


Posted by The Highroller on May-11-2005 22:24:

Bump.

I wish I could help with this, but I am also useless when it comes to web design.


Posted by LittlePoonzgirl on May-11-2005 22:54:

well, I'm in advertising...don't like web design much, but if layouts are needed then I could find some time


Posted by amb_ on May-12-2005 00:24:

Who is heading up this movement?

I've not received any messages irt. my offer...


Posted by TrickDaddE on May-13-2005 01:46:

Trick Daddy @ your Service!!!

If you build it they will come.....


Posted by infinity HiGH on May-13-2005 05:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
So we have one person willing to help with the site.

Anyone else?

And the reason for the site will be a focus point for literature and advertising such as what was mentioned before. Also it would be a place where people could go to find out how they can take action themselves whether it be through letter writing or demonstrations.


definately put news updates if there's anything going on with the scene politically.


Posted by arek on May-13-2005 07:22:

i don't think anything is changed in nightlife.

it's pretty much the same....

no need to waste time or web space for a website.


Posted by b4k-oz on May-13-2005 08:45:

arek there are some things happening in the background which are still coming to light and I think that all of us would like to take a calculatated approach to this situation, rather than being too reactive and stirring shyte up...and bc we are all contributing our free time, I think most of us would like to proceed in this cautionary manner so we don't waste anyone's time creating something that won't go anywhere.

That said, Jay and I will be posting newz updates if something major occurs. However, we are also dependant on the input of other TAs too.

If anyone hears anything....even if it just a small rumour, then we would really appreciate it if you could post it in this thread.

Chris b4 we contact you or anyone else, we are waiting on one more newz/update...also, I will be contacting a club owner+ soon to get their outlook on the situation. Once I have these, then we can proceed...I'm sure you understand that we had to put the werd out first on the forum to see who would be willing to contribute time for free...and yes I'm sure we will still like your input with this(if your still interested)....so just hold for a bit while Jayx1, I and The highroller huddle.

amb_ , LittlePoonzgirl and TrickDaddE...you honour us with your offer

Thanks everyone




EDIT: Jay...about "b4-koz and i are both useless when it comes to web design" Uselss? who said this? I'm not useless...I just don't like working hard at something others can do in less time



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