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Posted by starsearcher on May-10-2005 02:53:

Read This! Critical Flaw Found in Firefox

quote:

Matthew Broersma, Techworld.com Mon May 9,11:00 AM ET

Firefox has unpatched "extremely critical" security holes and exploit code is already circulating on the Net, security researchers have warned.

The two unpatched flaws in the Mozilla browser could allow an attacker to take control of your system.

A patch is expected shortly, but in the meantime users can protect themselves by switching off JavaScript. In addition, the Mozilla Foundation has now made the flaws effectively impossible to exploit by changes to the server-side download mechanism on the update.mozilla.org and addons.mozilla.org sites, according to security experts.

The flaws were confidentially reported to the Foundation on May 2, but by Saturday details had been leaked and were reported by several security organizations, including the French Security Incident Response Team (FrSIRT). Danish security firm Secunia marked the exploit as "extremely critical", its most serious rating, the first time it has given a Firefox flaw this rating.

In recent months Firefox has gained significant market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, partly because it is considered less vulnerable to attacks. However, industry observers have long warned that the browser is more secure partly because of its relatively small user base. As Firefox's profile grows, attackers will increasingly target the browser.
Two Vulnerabilities Found

The exploit, discovered by Paul of Greyhats Security Group and Michael "mikx" Krax, makes use of two separate vulnerabilities. An attacker could create a malicious page using frames and a JavaScript history flaw to make software installations appear to be coming from a "trusted" site. By default, Firefox allows software installations from update.mozilla.org and addons.mozilla.org, but users can add their own sites to this whitelist.

The second part of the exploit triggers software installation using an input verification bug in the "IconURL" parameter in the install mechanism. The effect is that a user could click on an icon and trigger the execution of malicious JavaScript code. Because the code is executed from the browser's user interface, it has the same privileges as the user running Firefox, according to researchers.

Mozilla Foundation said it has protected most users from the exploit by altering the software installation mechanism on its two whitelisted sites. However, users may be vulnerable if they have added other sites to the whitelist, it warned.

"We believe this means that users who have not added any additional sites to their software installation whitelist are no longer at risk," Mozilla Foundation said in a statement published on Mozillazine.org.


Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/120756


Posted by VERTiG0 on May-10-2005 03:42:

Who the crap uses Javascript anyway?


Posted by Jem_hadar on May-10-2005 03:43:

Question

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Who the crap uses Javascript anyway?


Posted by rabbitjoker on May-10-2005 03:44:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Who the crap uses Javascript anyway?


You're kidding, right.


Posted by Surreal JRS on May-10-2005 03:49:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Who the crap uses Javascript anyway?


sed -e 's/Javascript/ActiveX/g'


Posted by VERTiG0 on May-10-2005 03:49:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
You're kidding, right.


HARRRR HAR HARRRRR



Posted by Matt on May-10-2005 03:50:

lol, I have javascript turned off anyway lol


Posted by starsearcher on May-10-2005 12:39:

*bump*

Just a reminder ...be careful


Posted by zokissima on May-10-2005 15:00:

Thanks for the info. Still beats IE, even with its flaws.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Sep-29-2005 14:07:



Check this graph out!

Since March 2005 - IE has only had 8 security issues.

Since March 2005 - Firefox has had 44 security issues!


Posted by jon jon on Sep-29-2005 14:25:

hah I love "researchers", yeah researchers probably funded by Microsoft. LOL Greyhats security group my arse.


Posted by joinT on Sep-29-2005 17:00:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker


Check this graph out!

Since March 2005 - IE has only had 8 security issues.

Since March 2005 - Firefox has had 44 security issues!


yes, but keep in mind - patches for FF arrive very quickly, whereas patches for IE can take months!!

not only that, but how old is IE 6? been out since 2001. after 4 years they better not have many bugs left..


Posted by Swamper on Sep-29-2005 17:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt
lol, I have javascript turned off anyway lol


Lots of things on the net won't work for you then.


Posted by Streamline on Sep-29-2005 18:02:

Has anyone ever been affected by these "High Risk" security threats? I mostly just get
spyware/adware on my computer and thats about it. But seriously, if your on the internet without
a firewall/anti-virus tool, I suggest you get off while you can and save your computers life.
My norton firewall stops on average 5 high risk attacks per day, and who knows how many moderate to low.


Posted by joinT on Sep-29-2005 19:51:

most of those high risk alerts are related to phishing attempts..
as long as you are smart enough not to click on a link to; paypal, ebay, your bank, etc. from some random email saying your password has expired, you are pretty safe..


Posted by loca on Sep-29-2005 20:06:

quote:
Originally posted by joinT
yes, but keep in mind - patches for FF arrive very quickly, whereas patches for IE can take months!!

not only that, but how old is IE 6? been out since 2001. after 4 years they better not have many bugs left..


+1 I haven't had a single security problem with firefox since i've been using it anyways. IE on the other hand...


Posted by bass drive on Sep-29-2005 20:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Lots of things on the net won't work for you then.


like what?

(I just switched it off)


Posted by DigiNut on Sep-29-2005 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Lots of things on the net won't work for you then.

I seem to get along okay.

Virtually all of Firefox's issues are with JavaScript (and many of IE's are too - I'm not taking sides here). These "flaws" mean nothing - people need to understand that from a security standpoint, the whole concept behind JavaScript/VBScript and other scripting languages is utterly stupid. It can't EVER be secured because in order to be usable, it has to break some of the most fundamental security concepts.

What is client-side web scripting? It's running arbitrary code from a web site! That can never, EVER be secure. And the only way to even *partially* secure it is to get rid of the "default permit" - that is:
A) Only allow script code to be run from trusted web sites;
B) Don't ever allow inline scripts in HTML files because that enables self-modifying code;
C) Require a name and generate a checksum for every script on those sites, and don't allow code which has been modified to run until it has been re-verified;
D) Maintain a "safe list" of specific code constructs, and block anything else (for example, few if any people would allow the "eval" function)

And these "research" groups are a joke.
Marcus Ranum's rant on the security researchers


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Sep-30-2005 00:42:

quote:
Originally posted by joinT
most of those high risk alerts are related to phishing attempts..
as long as you are smart enough not to click on a link to; paypal, ebay, your bank, etc. from some random email saying your password has expired, you are pretty safe..


Agreed. There's security and then there's stupidity. And no amount of security can protect you from being an idiot. Think a little before going to a site, and you'll be fine 99% of the time.

I pick Firefox over IE cause it's much more customizable and has tons more features. I'm not worried about security at all because I got anti-spyware, anti-virus, and firewall going at all times, and most importantly, I don't click on banners saying "Your paypal account is set to receive 10000 dollars! CLICKA HEAR TO CORFIRM, YO!"

Also agree with DigiNut on this one. Everything he said is 100% true.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Sep-30-2005 02:46:

Jester

I love all the "yeah, but"'s... LOL!

Bottom line - within the last 6 months Firefox has 550% more security problems than IE.

wait. wait for it. wait.

"Yeah, but..."


Posted by DigiNut on Sep-30-2005 02:57:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Bottom line - within the last 6 months Firefox has 550% more security problems than IE.

Figures don't lie, but liars can figure. Do you think that statistic just *might* have something to do with the fact that Firefox is open source?

The bugs in Firefox are being discovered all at once, which is because the "security researchers" (see above post) just started looking. It's a good thing that they're being flushed out so quickly, it means there's less likelihood of exploits which *we* don't know about but the ]-[@x0|2z do.

You don't seriously think that this trend is going to keep up, do you? It's no different from any other open source projects - the first year after the official releases are rough, but afterwards they level off and are pretty much rock solid.


Posted by harcourt on Sep-30-2005 02:58:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
I love all the "yeah, but"'s... LOL!

Bottom line - within the last 6 months Firefox has 550% more security problems than IE.

wait. wait for it. wait.

"Yeah, but..."


Picking a time line that best suits your argument. How about looking at total security flaws between IE 6.0 and Firefox 1.0. I believe Firefox wins hands down.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Sep-30-2005 03:02:

quote:
Originally posted by tw1tch
Picking a time line that best suits your argument. How about looking at total security flaws between IE 6.0 and Firefox 1.0. I believe Firefox wins hands down.


Al Capowned

I like Firefox because it's faster and tabbed browsing rocks my socks, but I'd have no trouble using IE because I'm not a typical fucktard who clicks stupid shit and fills my box up with spyware and whatnot.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Sep-30-2005 03:08:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
this trend


Now that you mention trends...

IE is showing a negative trend towards security flaws.

Firefox is showing a positive trend towards security flaws.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Sep-30-2005 03:11:

Jester

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
I like Firefox because it's faster and tabbed browsing rocks my socks


Hey - I'm not pointing out dislike or like. Only facts (and thanks to Digi - trends).

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Al Capowned


Only 3 syllables? Total lil' league...

Capital of Sierra Leone'd! Try to fit into these 9 syllable britches, boy.


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