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Posted by bagge on May-11-2005 16:22:

Buying jp-8080

I've decided to buy me a jp-8080 synth but I can't seem to find any for sale. Do you guys have any good advice on where to find one. And how much a reasonable price is?

And also, do you know of any common problems with the synth that I should look out for?

Any help is appreciated...

Posted by Signal2005 on May-11-2005 18:14:

hey

Heres a link to one on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ssPageName=WDVW

why u want rack tho u should get the 8000 its got keys for around same price.

Posted by bagge on May-11-2005 20:29:

Aren't there any other differences than just the keys?
Is the JP-8000 easier to get hold of?

I don't know what I think about buying from ebay ... feels risky ... :-)

Posted by Corteoz on May-11-2005 20:36:

There are some minor changes. I _THINK_ that the JP8080 can be used as a vocoder, but not sure. I got a JP8000 myself, and when I read howtos on forums for the JP8080 I notice that there are some small differences.
Have you looked at spesifications on Rolands webpages?

Posted by emc^2 on May-11-2005 20:38:

Yes, it does have a vocoder but I believe 8000 does too. also, JP-8080 - 10 voices plus smart card slot (4MB, I think), jp-8000 8-voices, no smart card.

Anything under $475 is a good deal; I sold mine for $550. however, if I may make a suggestion... don't. don't get me wrong - it's not a bad synth but just widely overused and somewhat limited. plus occasional aliasing issues on some of the functions.

just my opinion.

oh, Armin also thinks so too. Tiesto disagrees and says he uses it on many of his tracks as his main synth.

just as comparisson: you can get virus A or nord rack for similar price. I bought a Nord Rack with 12 voice expansion/pcmcia card for $300. tho - to each his own and it's not a bad piece of gear.

Try searching sonic state classifieds. www.sonicstate.com

Posted by bagge on May-11-2005 21:04:

hmm ... always so difficult to decide what to buy ... :-)

I googled some for the nord lead 2 but I can't see if it has a nice supersaw oscillator or not ...

The idea with getting a jp8080 was to buy something that I've almost only seen positive reviews about. Also the nord lead seems easier to find used...

Posted by Trancevision on May-11-2005 22:09:

quote:
Originally posted by bagge
hmm ... always so difficult to decide what to buy ... :-)

I googled some for the nord lead 2 but I can't see if it has a nice supersaw oscillator or not ...

The idea with getting a jp8080 was to buy something that I've almost only seen positive reviews about. Also the nord lead seems easier to find used...

The Nord Lead isn't not capable of a supersaw oscillator.
In fact it is VERY hard to get supersaw like sound on the nord lead 1 and nord lead 2.
I haven't heard a clear and crispy supersaw out of it.
Of course you can detune some saws, experiment with pulse width.

But if you're after the supersaw DON'T buy a nord lead 1&2...

Trancevision

Posted by ErikC on May-11-2005 22:44:

You should visit www.vendolin.se and www.tradera.se and try to find a JP-8080 or JP-8000 there. It's much more convenient to buy from Sweden..

Posted by Signal2005 on May-12-2005 04:30:

hey

Try the vst version of the jp its free and sounds awsome u can find it at kvr and its called lollpalooza lite i think

Posted by Corteoz on May-12-2005 14:36:

Re: hey

quote:
Originally posted by Signal2005
Try the vst version of the jp its free and sounds awsome u can find it at kvr and its called lollpalooza lite i think

Please compare the JP80x0 to that VST. I just want to say "You are teh suck", but I won't.
The VST only replicates the controllers. It doesn't sound much like the JP80x0. JP80x0 sounds about 10^1000 times better. If you like to argue on that I'll have to point you to rb2k1's soundset for JP80x0. The demo shows off some of the cool sounds the JP80x0 can create.

Posted by DJule on May-12-2005 15:05:

Buy Novation or Access Virus... this is the type of sound which will be used now. The JP sound has been used so many times!!!! I don't want to listen it anymore!!!!!

No originality.

Posted by Corteoz on May-12-2005 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by DJule
Buy Novation or Access Virus... this is the type of sound which will be used now. The JP sound has been used so many times!!!! I don't want to listen it anymore!!!!!

No originality.

Oh my... Seems like i'm the defender of JP80x0! :-P
Remember what kind of synth the JP is. It can be used in about 100 billion different ways. It's supersaw sound has been turned into a clich�, but that doesn't stop it from making cool sounds.

But, in a way DJule is right. I think Accsess is a good choice, not Novation. Tried it and don't like the sounds. It's also harder to use than the Accsess.

Posted by bagge on May-12-2005 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by ErikC
You should visit www.vendolin.se and www.tradera.se and try to find a JP-8080 or JP-8000 there. It's much more convenient to buy from Sweden..

Hey, nice links. Thanks a lot! Now I just have to decide what to look for ... lol :-)

Posted by bagge on May-12-2005 23:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DJule
Buy Novation or Access Virus... this is the type of sound which will be used now. The JP sound has been used so many times!!!! I don't want to listen it anymore!!!!!

No originality.

So then I should get a JP to have in the rack when it's time to make some retro style music in a few years... ;-)

I don't know much about Novation or Access Virus (or much of anything else for that matter). There seems to be many versions of the Virus (C, KB, KC, Indigo). I guess I'm too lazy for googling the specs... :-)

Posted by DJule on May-13-2005 08:02:

Some producers like Phynn or Arizona aka Tomas Bronzwaer use soft synths mand an Access Virus. The Virus has a really special sound, a little bit aggressive. Try the Virus C.

Posted by FrancoR on May-14-2005 07:16:

get the JP is a real deal

Posted by DJ-Igloo on May-14-2005 15:56:

well we Own both at J&C studios we have jp8000 - 8080 and a virus kc the virus is great for the dark grittier sounds of trance, however the jp's are great for things other then the supersaw I mean you can make plucks , pads ,fx , etc etc the list goes on imho the 8080 is nicer because u dont have to fool with the space the 8080 takes up so its alot easier to work with.

Wes Johnson

Posted by aquila on May-14-2005 22:14:

Posted by Eekarooz on May-15-2005 21:39:

A few filters and good external reverbprocessing and you can make it sound like new.
I'm a JP-8k owner and I dig it. Vengeance's work is terrific for it.