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Posted by Jackson on May-12-2005 21:17:

Hero

I'm watching this movie now....i've seen it before. Its such an amazing film. The range of colours are so beautiful. When the arrows are fired in group its just amazing...and the whole film is just Inspiring.
Any thoughts on this movie?

Posted by kr00t0n on May-12-2005 21:25:

Boring, but better than house of flying daggers

Posted by Xenocreator_PG_ on May-12-2005 21:29:

Re: Hero

quote:
Originally posted by Jackson
I'm watching this movie now....i've seen it before. Its such an amazing film. The range of colours are so beautiful. When the arrows are fired in group its just amazing...and the whole film is just Inspiring.
Any thoughts on this movie?

I just bought it on DVD, but I havent seen it yet. Ive just ordered a Projector screen & Ill wait until I get it. Should be a good movie to watch on the big screen.

Posted by Matt on May-12-2005 21:30:

beautiful film

Posted by chojin on May-12-2005 21:35:

pretty.....but like kr00t said it started to get boring when they rehashed the story for the fifth or so time. it made you think, what was the point of sitting through the first four retellings if they're just gonna say...

ah, this is what REALLY happened....

*waits for the next retelling

Posted by getfoul on May-13-2005 03:27:

i enjoyed it.

Posted by metalgearsolid on May-13-2005 03:34:

the movie was good but his other film the house of flying daggers was a lot better

Posted by DJ Chrono on May-13-2005 03:34:

it's the greatest movie ever made. hoh, I don't know any others that can match it in terms of cinematography and overall perfection. of course casshern ties it, but I mean besides that one.

Posted by Cal on May-13-2005 03:42:

Ever since I saw House of Flying Daggers something inside of me snapped. Its like in South Park when Cartman saw those butt people and lost his ability to laugh because what he saw was so super funny.

So it is with me with sappy over-the-top emotional asian cinema.

I just don't give a shit anymore. The people in those movies need to learn to get the fuck over whatever their problems are without crying like pussies or killing themselves.

Posted by igottaknow on May-13-2005 03:45:

cinematography was great but i had problems with the movie:

1. Slow moving plot found it boring at times.

2. I'm not a fan of flying surreal karate that's popular now. Give me jackie chan or bruce lee realism any day.

3. the plot of story retold 4 times was a nice idea but didn't play out well. Felt more like a night shamalan gimmick to fool you.

I'm not saying it was horrible movie, i just was disappointed and felt it didn't live up to all the hype.

Posted by fitom tiel on May-13-2005 03:50:

i agree, but the cinematography was indeed beautiful.

Posted by Cal on May-13-2005 03:59:

Oh and one other thing. In crouching tiger hidden dragon the guy is dying right, and the woman he loves begs him to enter a meditative state so that when he dies he would go to paradise to live there forever. What does he do? He rejects her idea, preferring instead to "exist by her side as a ghost" because he loves her so much.

Well whats he gonna do when she dies and enters paradise and hes going to be stuck on earth as a ghost? What a dumb fuck.

"Gee I can either wait in paradise apart from her until she dies and joins me and well exist in paradise forever, OR I can be an invisible ghost by her side for the next 30 years or so until she passes on to paradise, and never see her again after that. Well Im choosing to be a ghost because Im a dumb impatient fuck!"

Posted by Cal on May-13-2005 04:02:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
you type too much

Yo momma

Posted by Blue. on May-13-2005 05:15:

Pretty good movie. A prime example of how a movie can be amazing when subtitled but so horrible when dubbed.

Posted by Forgotten One on May-13-2005 05:38:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
2. I'm not a fan of flying surreal karate that's popular now. Give me jackie chan or bruce lee realism any day.

You do realise that for years now, jackie Chan has been using tightwire and also speeding the actual fighting sequences up to make it look like a tremendously fast-paced fighting sequence when it is actually a semi-fast-paced fighting sequence (Goregeous, when he fights that white guy with boxing gloves on in the warehouse for example).

Not dissing Jackie Chan, just letting you know he isn't the massive super-human floating speedy gonzales of Kung-Fu that he appears in his american-filmed movies.

If you wanna see raw Jackie Chan with none of that stuff, try to rent his movies from Rumble in the Bronx and before, especially his chinese films.
Films like, Project A, Drunken Master, New Fist of Fury, Snake & Crane [and his other series of super low-budget films with 3/4 of the Hong Kong academy in them], City Hunter [this movie's the closest depiction of an anime with real actors I've ever seen, and it's HILARIOUS], and I can go on.

Posted by dj tek on May-13-2005 05:44:

unless you have a mindblowing home theatre set up, you cant get into it... this movie's heart is on the visuals and you need some proper screen to get the full effect intended from the director's mindstate...

Posted by Blue. on May-13-2005 05:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Forgotten One
You do realise that for years now, jackie Chan has been using tightwire and also speeding the actual fighting sequences up to make it look like a tremendously fast-paced fighting sequence when it is actually a semi-fast-paced fighting sequence (Goregeous, when he fights that white guy with boxing gloves on in the warehouse for example).

Not dissing Jackie Chan, just letting you know he isn't the massive super-human floating speedy gonzales of Kung-Fu that he appears in his american-filmed movies.

If you wanna see raw Jackie Chan with none of that stuff, try to rent his movies from Rumble in the Bronx and before, especially his chinese films.
Films like, Project A, Drunken Master, New Fist of Fury, Snake & Crane [and his other series of super low-budget films with 3/4 of the Hong Kong academy in them], City Hunter [this movie's the closest depiction of an anime with real actors I've ever seen, and it's HILARIOUS], and I can go on.

I could never get into most of Jackie Chan's movies, except for Rush Hour. I just found most of them boring. I enjoy Jet Li's movies a little more but a lot of the american ones suck (ie. the One). Bruce Lee is still the most enjoyable to watch on screen as far as martial arts goes.

Enter the Dragon = classic

Posted by Steve Stephano on May-13-2005 07:13:

Re: Hero

quote:
Originally posted by Jackson
Any thoughts on this movie?

I enjoyed it. Not the best movie though, I watched it on a Singapore Airlines flight to Hong Kong, maybe I would have enjoyed it more in a cinema.

I preferred Stormriders.

Posted by dr me on May-13-2005 08:44:

what a coincidence. i just finished watching it a second time

excellent movie. loved every bit of it

i can't understand some say HoFD was better, sure the visuals were stunning but the story was so weak.

Posted by trewqy on May-13-2005 09:47:

Yeah..watched it in the cinema and loved it. bought the dvd and realised it was kinda boring after the retells.

But hey.. seeing the visuals for the first time was some crazy shit!!!

Great cinematography. HOFD cant be compared to this..

Posted by Subey on May-13-2005 13:17:

Very odd that they would reword "All Under Heaven" to "Our Land" in the western release, changes the entire focus of the movie.

"To suffer yourself when all under heaven suffer, to enjoy only when all under heaven enjoy"

The inverted sword is very interesting. Its not as obvious with an eastern sword (due to the narrower hilt), but if you invert a western sword you get a cross.

But I think the most interesting imagery is during the first assasination attempt when all the curtains covering the pillars are cut down.

Posted by igottaknow on May-13-2005 14:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Forgotten One
You do realise that for years now, jackie Chan has been using tightwire and also speeding the actual fighting sequences up to make it look like a tremendously fast-paced fighting sequence when it is actually a semi-fast-paced fighting sequence (Goregeous, when he fights that white guy with boxing gloves on in the warehouse for example).

Not dissing Jackie Chan, just letting you know he isn't the massive super-human floating speedy gonzales of Kung-Fu that he appears in his american-filmed movies.

If you wanna see raw Jackie Chan with none of that stuff, try to rent his movies from Rumble in the Bronx and before, especially his chinese films.
Films like, Project A, Drunken Master, New Fist of Fury, Snake & Crane [and his other series of super low-budget films with 3/4 of the Hong Kong academy in them], City Hunter [this movie's the closest depiction of an anime with real actors I've ever seen, and it's HILARIOUS], and I can go on.

To clarify what i said, I agree Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan's styles are different, but both take into account the laws of physics. Bruce Lee is obviously more real, but I find Chan equal good, he is more of mix of 3 studges and martial arts. Yes I know he speeds things up (not a big fan of that) reminds me of 70's car chases where they did the same thing. looks silly, of course that fits with jackie whos more about the humor.

Posted by brashy on May-13-2005 18:37:

"The Hero" it's not at all a movie about martial arts and fighting. It's based more on the phylosophical aspects of chinese culture.

I found it trully exceptional, much better than the Oscar winning "tiger and Dragon". Not taking into account the special effects (which were fkin awesome), the feeling you get during the main characters' introspection and flashbacks is fantastic.

Comparing it to Jackie Chan movies really minimizes it's value.
It's like comparing Armin van Buuren with some lame cheesy DJ.