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Posted by trancechaos on May-13-2005 22:23:

Marriage and Religion

how important is it that your partner shares the same religious beliefs as you?
if you have kids what religion will they grow up under if the mother and father dont share the same beliefs?


Posted by Yan on May-13-2005 22:25:

The kid will be Jewish. Don't care if the mother is, however.


Posted by Photo_bot_2k1 on May-13-2005 22:25:

Make the kid choose his own third religion.


Posted by Floorfiller on May-13-2005 22:27:

i'm not religious and i suppose my wife won't be either so we'll probably have little bastard sinners or something...


Posted by nchs09 on May-13-2005 22:28:

i dont have a religion... so doesnt bother me... now if i have to choose a religion due to my partner...

i doubt i would.. since belivnig somthing i do not belive in... it would be pointless and a lie.. i would not bother

which would suck if it happend with someone i loved


Posted by Orbax on May-13-2005 22:48:

basically, morality is the key, BUT I think it would bother me thinking in a way, that the person I was with didnt have a communion with God. Id probably try to convert her a lot.


Posted by Krypton on May-13-2005 22:48:

i know in christianity, the bible says, "A pure spirit cannot become one with an impure one. You are unequally yoked." nutshell- christains arent supposed to marry outside of their religion. it is the same in other cultures and religions, and not in others.

but it makes sense. why be with someone who has opposing beliefs. youde be at each others backs all the time.


Posted by Floorfiller on May-13-2005 22:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
basically, morality is the key, BUT I think it would bother me thinking in a way, that the person I was with didnt have a communion with God. Id probably try to convert her a lot.


ultimately i agree with you right there. morality is the most important thing. if i met an amazing woman that didn't necessarily have the same beliefs that i do, i could still marry her...i just would either agree to disagree....

i'm not so confrontational that it would be a serious problem, unless she was the type of person that is really pushy with that sort of thing...in which case...i wouldn't be marrying her anyway for other reasons hehehe...


Posted by Orbax on May-13-2005 22:56:

it would mainly be some serious talks. I do them a lot anyway, even with people of the same faith, cuz I like trying to hammer down exactly how we feel we fit in with life, because connectedness is an important thing for happiness.

Im just pretty sure I could eventually win that one hehe, its been a large part of my life in study and in living and philosophy


Posted by nchs09 on May-13-2005 22:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
ultimately i agree with you right there. morality is the most important thing. if i met an amazing woman that didn't necessarily have the same beliefs that i do, i could still marry her...i just would either agree to disagree....

i'm not so confrontational that it would be a serious problem, unless she was the type of person that is really pushy with that sort of thing...in which case...i wouldn't be marrying her anyway for other reasons hehehe...
are u guys saying htat morality only comes hand by hand with religous belive?


Posted by Floorfiller on May-13-2005 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
are u guys saying htat morality only comes hand by hand with religous belive?


no actually the opposite. i think we're both saying that a person with a sense of morals...even if they didn't share a common religion...is the most important thing...


Posted by Floorfiller on May-13-2005 23:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
it would mainly be some serious talks. I do them a lot anyway, even with people of the same faith, cuz I like trying to hammer down exactly how we feel we fit in with life, because connectedness is an important thing for happiness.

Im just pretty sure I could eventually win that one hehe, its been a large part of my life in study and in living and philosophy


i love the deep talks hehehe...my and i do that shit all the time...that's what happens when you're an inquisitive person hehehe...you try to rationalize the world


Posted by nchs09 on May-13-2005 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
no actually the opposite. i think we're both saying that a person with a sense of morals...even if they didn't share a common religion...is the most important thing...
point made... i misunderstood


but then u got a problem with it... what morals are the standar for morals?

urs.. a religous person... or someone who does not belive in religion and maybe some of ur religous ideals


Posted by Floorfiller on May-13-2005 23:06:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
point made... i misunderstood


but then u got a problem with it... what morals are the standar for morals?

urs.. a religous person... or someone who does not belive in religion and maybe some of ur religous ideals


well you don't have to be a catholic or a christian to have a sense of what is right and what's wrong on important stuff...

maybe people will disagree on the death penalty or something...but that's not really important...


Posted by Orbax on May-13-2005 23:13:

morality is doing the right thing even when its hard, falls under honor, obligation, and codes of ethics.

Im not into relativism, where there is a different code for different peoples and stuff. Dont steal eachother shit etc...

basically, its a societal contract. Morality isnt hard, its the avoiding the "but i want to do it anyway" syndrome.

Religion, as far as morality goes, is just some codes written down that you should follow. The main purpose of religion, as least for me, is establishing a union and a communion with God.

I have had to many talks with people to say that "some people just dont know what 'right' is" is a legitimate argument.


Posted by trancechaos on May-13-2005 23:18:

ive always told myself that it doesnt matter what religion the person is, but to be honest religion is a really important thing, if i was an athiest then i wouldnt give a damn what my partner was.

as a christian i just dont see how marrying a jew, muslim or hindu would work. i dont think id have a problem marrying an atheist though.
im an anglican and i dont see anything wrong with marrying say a prodestant or catholic coz we still believe in the same things, its just minor details that are different.


Posted by Orbax on May-13-2005 23:20:

I can see myself marrying some hot ass indian girl whos Hindu, God will forgive us


Posted by trancechaos on May-13-2005 23:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
I can see myself marrying some hot ass indian girl whos Hindu, God will forgive us


it might be good for you, but just dude really, i think no religions clash more than christianity and hinduism.

christianity, one god and no worshiping idols
hindu, many gods and some idols

just wouldnt work dude, think of how confused your kids would be


Posted by Orbax on May-13-2005 23:30:

im just going to teach my kids, morality, ethics, honor. Ill not pressure them with a religion and when they are 16 or so, id have a conversation with the family and what not, give them some books, etc...

let them make their own decisions.

I made mine and it was infintely more impacting on me then just having the same religion as my parents.

Also, with most religions, again, smart people use it as a connection to their God/s. They deal a little bit with philosophy, but things like Zen and buddhism can be mixed with any religion, etc...

basically, smart people dont need to worry about how to get along, cuz yeah...God wouldnt want you to be a bastard about it.


Posted by trancechaos on May-13-2005 23:42:

yeah i get what you are saying but religion is something someone has to grow up with.
its good that you will let them make a choice instead of impossing your beliefs on them but you cant let them grow up not believing in anything. religion is a hard to grasp concept IMO and needs to introduced at a very young age to avoid rejection.


Posted by Orbax on May-13-2005 23:52:

Thats a scary thought lol. A lot of people get introduced to religion at older ages, and convert etc...

I just think that if someone is given the appropriate tools of wonder, awe, connectedness, honor, and a solid basis in the areas of philosophy, etc....


If the child makes a well made, logical, reasonable, thought out decision on how he/she really interprets the world, Im not gonna chance that all by telling him when hes young there is a God that will send him to Hell if he doesnt listen.


Posted by Orbax on May-14-2005 00:57:

I always ask them to come back, and I read their pamphlets for a week and just say yea..so this this this this this and this dont make sense, explain, and they never can


Posted by torontotrance on May-14-2005 02:53:

I am a Christian and so is my G.F. I think that you need to have the same set of core beliefs or it won't work because you will just fight about that as well. My kids will be brought up as Christians but I'm not forcing it on them, if they want embrace it then fine.


Posted by tiesto14 on May-14-2005 03:15:

Religion is bunk!


Posted by torontotrance on May-14-2005 03:15:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
Religion is bunk!


maybe for you but for others, it is a part of us


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