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Posted by DJ-Igloo on May-14-2005 18:26:

Q: Piano VSTi or Samples

We are going to use a piano in our new track, We wanted to get some opinions wich is better getting a vsti for piano sounds or using samples.

Thanks,
Wes Johnson

Johnson & Corbett

Posted by DJ-Igloo on May-14-2005 18:55:

nice thanks we may end up rewiring reason into cubase just for the piano :P but that sounds great mate

Posted by FrancoR on May-14-2005 20:22:

Igloo check Garritan Orchestal 3Cds with one of the best piano samples i never heard.

Posted by ONION on May-14-2005 20:24:

How about both *cough The Grand is one big rompler

Posted by djkoso on May-14-2005 23:27:

Igloo try Luxonix Ravity (it's a ROMpler), this VST have good Piano sounds.

Visit Luxonix website

or Steinberg Hypersonic.

Greetz.

Posted by Agility on May-15-2005 00:19:

quote:
Originally posted by djkoso
Igloo try Luxonix Ravity (it's a ROMpler), this VST have good Piano sounds.

Visit Luxonix website

Greetz.

Indeed, Has the classic M1 piano(8)on it.

There are not really any decent piano vsts, sadly.

Posted by djkoso on May-15-2005 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Agility
Indeed, Has the classic M1 piano(8)on it.

There are not really any decent piano vsts, sadly.

heh yep but sound is .. hmm good on vst some EQ some reverb delay and go

and i agree, there are not really decent piano VSTS

Posted by djbruuen on May-15-2005 00:59:

now if you want a piano, i'm not just talking about your run of the mill shit...if you want a 'real' piano that you're going to be happy with using on anything that requires a piano and are willing to shell out a few dollars for it...i've come to the conclusion on these very serious choices:

Synthology - Ivory Grand Piano

Sampletekk - Black Grand

now THOSE are pianos...forget reason, stienberg the grand or any of that. if you want a piano, those two choices are what you want!!!

Posted by DJ-Igloo on May-15-2005 02:27:

well im looking at getting a Korg Triton Studio 61-Key Workstation/Sampler

Posted by Eekarooz on May-15-2005 22:13:

I don't think you need something like Ivory grand piano for tranceproduction. These are more meant to be standalone pianosound. Most of their attributes get lost if you use them in a trance-mix anyways. I'd save up my money for a rompler-synth or a sample library

Posted by Eekarooz on May-15-2005 22:13:

Posted by DJ-Igloo on May-15-2005 22:14:

well we are doing a classical break down orch sounds and real piano so its kinda important to us to get the classical sound

Posted by Eekarooz on May-15-2005 22:25:

Do you need realistic Orch sounds as well? (extremely realistic)

Posted by DJ-Igloo on May-15-2005 22:25:

yes i thought about getting the local symphony to record the peice for me

Posted by Eekarooz on May-15-2005 22:55:

that's quite a task! I don't know the price of that, nor do I know if your local symphony has the greatest recordinggear or not, but if you plan on doing it often, maybe you should look into Gigastudio. I don't have the reference by hand right now, but there's a version that is dedicated to Orchestral and Piano. I remember it being very expensive, so if you plan on doing it for once, and in a legal way, then look for alternatives.

Me myself, I use rompler synths for my piano and orchestral sounds. But I record every note of for example a violin with a different altered Patch-sound to capture the right nuances, to create more realism. It's 10x the amount of work, but for small passages it can really pay off if done well.

Posted by DJ-Igloo on May-15-2005 22:57:

well my old music instructor is the head of the symphony and they have nice gear to record with but i will take a look at giga studio to thanks

Posted by djbruuen on May-15-2005 23:19:

i'm sure you've heard of these, but for ocherstra its all about:

east west symphonic orchestra

(or for the rich/serious producers)

vienna symphonic orchestra.

pure brilliance...right now i'm using east west symphonic orchestra silver. cheapest of the bunch, i think like $299US...and fuck does it sound good. i particualarily love the french horns, wholey shit, i've never heard a french horn sound so good in my life!

of course with my suggestions in this thread, i'm more then just an EDM producer, and i'm sure others hear are to, so i thought i'd share the best of the best right now in case anyones in the dark about realism in accoustic instruments.

Posted by DJ-Igloo on May-16-2005 03:03:

kk thx

Posted by PDM on May-16-2005 03:55:

In order of preference.

* Steinberg's The Grand.
* Steinberg's Hypersonic
* Synthology - Ivory Grand Piano
* Edirol Orchestral