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Posted by leeor on May-14-2005 21:33:

Read This! Trance Awareness Week

So I'd like to put together a "Trance Awareness Week" for the states :-)

This will basically be 1 week where everyday a top artist provides an exclusive set for you to burn and give out during that day. Give it to strangers, family, and friends. The goal is to create a Trance Buzz and bring people to the clan How did M.C. Hammer make it? Yes you guessed it.. demo tapes Let's take a bite out of hip hop

Also maybe each day we'll have a different popular sub-genre, such as progressive trance, psytrance, hardtrance, melodictrance.. trancetrance.

Who's up for this, and who thinks they have the connections to get the ball rolling? The week should be quite some time ahead so that there will be enough time to gather supporters and get artists on the ball. We can also do a press release.

So why do this? Well this will definitly get the word out that there is this wonderful genre out there called Trance. That's first. Second, it will create a demand for the genre, therefore we will see more trance-related events, radio stations, and new acts we may have never heard of before. If you are a trance DJ and find yourself having to play hip hop when you perform, and trance in your bedroom, this will definitly help turn things around.

What has been the #1 negative reaction that I've heard? "It's going to kill the genre" If anything, it will definitly Not kill the genre. You will always have the sounds of the underground, for any genre. If that's what makes you feel special, you will find it. But I've listened to trance and followed it for many many years now and it has never broke into the US market. Except for Aqua - Barbie Girl and Eifel 65 - Blue. We can do better!

So let me get your take on the idea... this will require an open effort, meaning trance addict, club planet, trance.nu, etc...

~Leeor


Posted by DarkAngel on May-14-2005 21:58:

Hmmm....


Posted by Vero on May-16-2005 02:11:

Re: Trance Awareness Week

quote:
Originally posted by leeor
So I'd like to put together a "Trance Awareness Week" for the states :-)

This will basically be 1 week where everyday a top artist provides an exclusive set for you to burn and give out during that day. Give it to strangers, family, and friends. The goal is to create a Trance Buzz and bring people to the clan How did M.C. Hammer make it? Yes you guessed it.. demo tapes Let's take a bite out of hip hop

Also maybe each day we'll have a different popular sub-genre, such as progressive trance, psytrance, hardtrance, melodictrance.. trancetrance.

Who's up for this, and who thinks they have the connections to get the ball rolling? The week should be quite some time ahead so that there will be enough time to gather supporters and get artists on the ball. We can also do a press release.

So why do this? Well this will definitly get the word out that there is this wonderful genre out there called Trance. That's first. Second, it will create a demand for the genre, therefore we will see more trance-related events, radio stations, and new acts we may have never heard of before. If you are a trance DJ and find yourself having to play hip hop when you perform, and trance in your bedroom, this will definitly help turn things around.

What has been the #1 negative reaction that I've heard? "It's going to kill the genre" If anything, it will definitly Not kill the genre. You will always have the sounds of the underground, for any genre. If that's what makes you feel special, you will find it. But I've listened to trance and followed it for many many years now and it has never broke into the US market. Except for Aqua - Barbie Girl and Eifel 65 - Blue. We can do better!

So let me get your take on the idea... this will require an open effort, meaning trance addict, club planet, trance.nu, etc...

~Leeor


yeah it does happen once a year, in miami, its called WMC.

i think your idea is a very bad one. do you really want to see trance and EDM become pop? I like my scene just where it is: underground. lets leave it there.


Posted by nchs09 on May-16-2005 02:13:

Re: Re: Trance Awareness Week

quote:
Originally posted by Vero
yeah it does happen once a year, in miami, its called WMC.

i think your idea is a very bad one. do you really want to see trance and EDM become pop? I like my scene just where it is: underground. lets leave it there.
the scene is not really underground... at least not anymore


Posted by Krypton on May-16-2005 02:24:

Re: Re: Re: Trance Awareness Week

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
the scene is not really underground... at least not anymore


in the USA...its underground

yes, it should stay underground//


Posted by nchs09 on May-16-2005 02:30:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Trance Awareness Week

quote:
Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
in the USA...its underground

yes, it should stay underground//
bro its not underground wtf are u guys talking about


Posted by leeor on May-16-2005 14:11:

WMC is just a big event hosting all the greats in the field. I am talking about nationalizing the genre. You're telling me that if someone asks you "hey what is that you're listening to?" You'll completely tune them out? ...


Posted by gerrycueto on May-16-2005 21:12:

and the point of this is? trance had its commercial success already... back in the late 90s and early 00s kiddy parties played more trance than hiphop. REAL trance like Thrillseekers, Ferry Corsten type stuff, and that stuff was on the radio, and it charted!... Power96's format was trancier than rap...
It wasn't until 2001, that Power96's format got more ghetto to the point of trance's extinction on that station a few years later.

In the late 90s you saw the rise of poser "ravers", and all of a sudden kiddies took up raving. Epic trance brought raving into the mainstream. Took raving and saturated it to the point of a lame school dance. Trance lost appeal because ravers on ecstasy wasn't as rebellious as hard rockers or gangsta rappers. The lyrical content, if any lyrics were contained at all, was too fluffy. Anything with a rebel image sells in pop culture. Once it loses its former rebel image, the music is perceived as lame duck and goes underground. The final betrayal of trance in the mainstream world was when commercial trance artists lost all creativity and decided to go on a rampage and do nothing but 80s covers, making trance look lamer than country/western.

It's a shame to see a fellow TA call Eiffel65 - I'm Blue and Aqua - Barbie Girl trance, when it is clearly europop.

I see you have good intentions, but your information was poorly researched and blatantly ignorant, making your point seem more laughable than effective.


Posted by DarkAngel on May-16-2005 21:24:

quote:
Originally posted by gerrycueto
It's a shame to see a fellow TA call Eiffel65 - I'm Blue and Aqua - Barbie Girl trance, when it is clearly europop.


Barbie Girl Europop, defintely. Blue was more like borderline dance, IMO.


Posted by nchs09 on May-16-2005 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by gerrycueto

It's a shame to see a fellow TA call Eiffel65 - I'm Blue and Aqua - Barbie Girl trance, when it is clearly europop.
wut a bunch of fucking n00bs.. we all know dj sammy - heaven is where the trance is at!!!!


Posted by gerrycueto on May-16-2005 21:34:

actually... dance is a big genre that encompasses trance, house, techno, drum n bass, breaks, hardcore, ect.. so basically all EDM is dance music, hence the acronym standing for Electronic Dance Music.

Both of those tracks are europop tunes, but both aren't the same type of europop. "Blue" is nu italo disco (which is built around a simplistic beat with a 4/4 bassline containing auto-tuned or vocoded vocals mostly... and containing catchy lyricless vocal parts like (aba-dee aba-dai.. dah dee dam dah dee dam) , while "Barbie Girl" is happy house, which typically a eurohouse beat, but with nonsensical happy, extremely sacharrine lyrics.


Posted by gerrycueto on May-16-2005 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
wut a bunch of fucking n00bs.. we all know dj sammy - heaven is where the trance is at!!!!


word! It's extremely noob for anyone to call blue or barbie girl trance.

and you do have a point... DJ Sammy - Heaven is trance. It follows all the rules a trance song should follow... contains trance synths... breaks and builds just like any trance song... which Blue and Barbie Girl don't do...

yeah, tracks like "Heaven" were the final betrayal of trance... lame trance mix of Bryan Adams


Posted by Driguez on May-16-2005 21:59:

i hate blue and barbie doll bc when a talk about trance with ppl that are not familiar with it they always think that all trance its like that,they are like,hey that music you hear sounds like that blue song hate it


Posted by leeor on May-17-2005 13:42:

Big Ears

It's kind of hard to get points across correctly when all you have is text to work with. You don't have to explain the genre to me. Believe me, I know just as much as you about what trance is, what it sounds like, and what it's not. I was merely trying to be funny and point out exactly what some of you pointed out that whenever someone hears a great trance tune they say "hey that sounds like the blue song...". And you are right gerrycueto, trance had it's little time in the late 90's with, what, kay-cee, Ayla, and ATB? Yes I heard thrillseekers slip a song in there too. We had hope. We knew trance's potential, but the media never took it farther than that. Lets give them the right material, give it a little push, the industry needs a tutor. Or we can just sit back and see what happens. Are we tranceaddicts, or just your normal music listeners?
Let's get an awareness week, if anything, it's something to do and should be fun to organize!


Posted by maxdady25 on May-26-2005 05:47:

I agree, not too many people know or are aware what Trance really is. I usually have to educate my colleagues when I'm jamming out during surgery to Ferry, Suzy, Santana, Armin, Tiesto, Doboy, or Ciacomix. These are what I frequently listen to while I'm at work but the list goes on and on. I like the fact that some people are ignorant about it because it gives me the chance to enlighten them. So in that aspect I don't think Trance should ever go mainstream, even though some of it already has like Tiesto's Just Be. I mean almost every track on that album sounds like pop except for Forever Today. I don't think educating people on Trance is so terrible and it might bring more trance DJs to our city if more people demand that sort of thing. That's going to take time though. So yeah for Trance Awareness but why only do it for a week? You should do it every day and at every opportunity. Spread the word!


Posted by jasin on May-26-2005 07:52:

miami is where its at yo!



Posted by jasin on May-26-2005 08:00:

oh dammit... i wangted to post in the im moving to tallahasee thread... but i guess i missed... but anywho.. ya miami miami miami and trance trance trance


Posted by jester on May-26-2005 14:29:

Another good way to let ppl see the inside of the edm scene, bring them to "It's all Gone Pete Tong"


Posted by RachUCF1001 on May-26-2005 14:51:

Re: Re: Trance Awareness Week

quote:
Originally posted by Vero
yeah it does happen once a year, in miami, its called WMC.

i think your idea is a very bad one. do you really want to see trance and EDM become pop? I like my scene just where it is: underground. lets leave it there.


yea on that note...


you do have good intentions leeor; I used to be like you- really wanting to 'spread' it (passing out my CD's/Word of mouth/ dragging people out to clubs to see djs etc)... attempting to open their eyes to what I love so much.
But now, seriously- Im so over it, because I tried that- and people still DON'T GET IT. Id still get the same arrogant reactions/responses- You all know the comments that are all one in the same widepsread.
Music is my LIFE- it is my heart and soul. I think if you're in this scene to the extent that most of us are, you're obviously in it for the right reasons. We got into it because we all immediately had an *ear* for the sound- for the music; and thats what drew us in for good. If people don't get it from the beginning, they arent going to. Sorry if thats ignorant, but I think 9 times out of 10 trying to "spread" the music is a lost cause. Underground is the way I like it - And thats how I want it to stay.


Posted by MeLLyMeL on May-26-2005 17:53:

Re: Re: Re: Trance Awareness Week

quote:
Originally posted by RachUCF1001
yea on that note...


you do have good intentions leeor; I used to be like you- really wanting to 'spread' it (passing out my CD's/Word of mouth/ dragging people out to clubs to see djs etc)... attempting to open their eyes to what I love so much.
But now, seriously- Im so over it, because I tried that- and people still DON'T GET IT. Id still get the same arrogant reactions/responses- You all know the comments that are all one in the same widepsread.
Music is my LIFE- it is my heart and soul. I think if you're in this scene to the extent that most of us are, you're obviously in it for the right reasons. We got into it because we all immediately had an *ear* for the sound- for the music; and thats what drew us in for good. If people don't get it from the beginning, they arent going to. Sorry if thats ignorant, but I think 9 times out of 10 trying to "spread" the music is a lost cause. Underground is the way I like it - And thats how I want it to stay.



Right on !! Before meeting the TA's I would have to go everywhere in my own car because my friends are just Party Poopers.. I would have to deal with their crap when we would go out and when I would take them to Space on thanksgiving they wanted to leave at 3 am! I love the music waaay to much and they just don't understand :-\



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