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Socialism in the 21st century

I was wondering what would your views be about Socialism and Marxism. Although I know that many of you are American, and thus have lived for your entire lives under Capitalism, how do you feel about the ever increasing economical differences between different nations (particularly between the Northern and Southern Hemisphere)?

Roger Garaudy said that Karl Marx has won the battle against Adam Smith, and that the XXth century means not the death of socialism, but the death of capitalism. As more and more people all over the world get nearer and nearer to the farthest limits of poverty, the world economy gets acaparated by only a few multinational groups.

Do you think that Socialism will reaper throughout the world, in a new, "reinvented" form? Or will USA continue to spread its "market monotheism" among all other nations and cultures all over the world?

My (Mine?) and many other opinions can be found here.

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Originally posted by Yan My (Mine?) and many other opinions can be found here.

mine and many others', perhaps

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Originally posted by fitom tiel mine and many others', perhaps

yee

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Originally posted by fitom tiel mine and many others', perhaps

That sounds about right.

my friend, under socialism, there are far more people below the poverty line than in capitalism. in capitalism, u can actually work to your advancement, and most times, u rise up the ladder of capitalism based on merit and skill. not possible in socialism. socialism was however a temporary remedy to the beleagered masses of europe during the early 20th century.

and i do applaud the democratic socialist party of america, because they are the ones who get the minimum wages increased, meaning more money for me

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: my friend, under socialism, there are far more people below the poverty line than in capitalism. in capitalism, u can actually work to your advancement, and most times, u rise up the ladder of capitalism based on merit and skill. not possible in socialism. socialism was however a temporary remedy to the beleagered masses of europe during the early 20th century. and i do applaud the democratic socialist party of america, because they are the ones who get the minimum wages increased, meaning more money for me

BOTTOM FEEDER!

nah, what i used to hate was when i was working for a little over minimum wage, and they raised it to what i was making, ie, im making 6/hr, they raise it to six, and then my boss refuses to give me a raise to the 7.

socialism is a nice idea...its just not practical in application...

Oh brave new world. Oh brave new world that has such people in it!

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oh uhhh, what is this monotheism of which u speak of the USA trying to spread. if that, the USA is in the throes of theistic right fighting a secular/liberal left. and it seems like the liberals are gaining small plots of ground along the way. the US gov't definatly is not spreading religion.

yeah weve seen what it does. It loses.

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Originally posted by Yan My (Mine?) and many other opinions can be found here.

For God's sake if you wanna know anything about socialism that is the last place you wanna go!

Also, ignore anythink :tvd: says about it!

I think capitalism will probably spread much more than socialism will, unfortunately. Socialism is a much better and fair economic system, and doesn't leave such a wide spectrum of rich and poor that capitalism does. It also doesn't lead to such greedy and ruthless corporations like we have here in the USA. Unfortunately, socialism nor communism don't usually work as well in practice as they do in theory.

To make myself clearer, under "market monotheism" I understand having as sole values the values of the market (regardless of social, moral ones)

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Originally posted by brashy To make myself clearer, under "market monotheism" I understand having as sole values the values of the market (regardless of social, moral ones)

Well you don't really make your point any clearer because there's virtually no state on the planet that operates under "market monotheism" according to that definition. Or is there no such thing as unemployment insurance? Or is there no such thing as welfare? Are are there no government agencies that address market externalities, etc.?

How many years has it been since Canada has produced any health innovations?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

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Originally posted by d-miurge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

^ Gracious. However, I'm confused. Is "classless society" an oxymoron?

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Originally posted by nickpdx I think capitalism will probably spread much more than socialism will, unfortunately. Socialism is a much better and fair economic system, and doesn't leave such a wide spectrum of rich and poor that capitalism does. It also doesn't lead to such greedy and ruthless corporations like we have here in the USA. Unfortunately, socialism nor communism don't usually work as well in practice as they do in theory.

Socialism is better at economics than capitalism?? geez buddy... have you ever learnt anything about economics?

btw, this thread belongs in PDD room..

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Originally posted by Estella ^ Gracious. However, I'm confused. Is "classless society" an oxymoron?

the classless society is not a oxymoron, currently the societies are formed with classes, it'ss the 'movement of the history' for Marx. But he wants to reach a classless society to avoid the inequalities.

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Originally posted by d-miurge the classless society is not a oxymoron, currently the societies are formed with classes, it'ss the 'movement of the history' for Marx. But he wants to reach a classless society to avoid the inequalities.

Yes, I understand this. But to me, it is a bit of an oxymoron. He hypothesized the middle class would revolutionize correct?

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