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Gays want to believe that they are natural and I agree with them but they are going about it the wrong way. They shouldn't say that it's the same as hetero because it offends many straight people but should just stick that it's their life and their relationship.
Their behavior is natural only in terms of that nature wants to control the population numbers and since gays can't breed that brings the population in control somewhat. For all the gay haters out there, can you imagine what it would be like if everyone was straight and had 3 kids ?

You know we can be happy about gays, since in other parts of the world nature has a nasty way of population control. In poor countries, birth rates are exponentially higher but they suffer from disease, hunger and senseless violence and war. I'd rather be gay than die in a disease ridden body.

Second point why gays have purpose and should be accepted is that diversity gays bring is interesting and teeaches us tolerance of choices others make. Everybody makes choices everyday, sometimes life altering and it's important to give everyone freedom to do that to live life of their own. I guess it's called respect.

third less competition for us straight ones

I can't believe what i'm reading. There's a closet homophobe if I ever saw one. "Oh yes, being gay is okay because it keeps the population numbers at bay."

Good grief. (I know I use this a lot, but I think this is the most fitting occassion of them all.)

Im not gonna start bashing gays, but i dont care for them nor the reason why they are who they are.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike I can't believe what i'm reading. There's a closet homophobe if I ever saw one. "Oh yes, being gay is okay because it keeps the population numbers at bay." Good grief. (I know I use this a lot, but I think this is the most fitting occassion of them all.)

Actually, if one is born gay since birth, it seems to make a bit of pre-destined sense. What of all the people who say wars are a means of population control and re-distribution? It doesn't sound so outlandish to me. I don't want to end up in a civilization like China. This factor could be just another means of prevention.

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Originally posted by Estella Actually, if one is born gay since birth, it seems to make a bit of pre-destined sense. What of all the people who say wars are a means of population control and re-distribution? It doesn't sound so outlandish to me.

Yea, I actually agree; but the context this moron put that point across in made out that this was one of the reasons being gay was 'acceptable.' That is what I was getting at.

I hate accidently downloading ghey porn. Or transvestite porn. It's like "hey wait a sec, that's not a chick! wtf!!!" *Vomit.*

I dont mind gheys, I just hate ghey porn.

I really don't care where dudes plant their penises...as long as it's not in me.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Yea, I actually agree; but the context this moron put that point across in made out that this was one of the reasons being gay was 'acceptable.' That is what I was getting at.

lol oh sorry. My mistake.

I thought he was gay. It seemed like some sort of self-assurant vent.

what's your point


what you are saying lacks logic severely!

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Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_ I hate accidently downloading ghey porn.

accidentaly.

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Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_ I hate accidently downloading ghey porn. Or transvestite porn. It's like "hey wait a sec, that's not a chick! wtf!!!" *Vomit.* I dont mind gheys, I just hate ghey porn.

i hate accidentally making ghey porn. It's like "hey wait a sec, you're taping this?"

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i hate accidentally making ghey porn. It's like "hey wait a sec, you're taping this?"

LOL even better.

I'm going to have to say your way of thinking about gays offends me. You shouldn't have to make up bullshit just to have a reason to accept gays. The whole population thing is bullshit right up until the 50s or so, because most gays ended up getting married and starting a family anyways, before being gay was acceptable.

People who are truly gay are born gay, and it isnt to save the population. Thats like saying some people are born without working genitals to keep the population in check. As crude as this sounds, being born gay is basicly a mental issue so to speak. They are born with different things in their brain than a hetero male.

For instance, as we know, men and women have different brains, and they react differently to certain substances. A recent study has shown that gay males brains act in the same manner as a heterosexual womans to certain scents. Where as hetero mens brains act completely different. So simply put, their brains have more feminine qualities. This isn't natures big scheme to keep the population in check. Its a reproductive mishap, just like kids born with ADD, or kids born as super geniuses. As crude as that sounds, I am not saying gays should be given drugs or something to correct it, because there isnt anything wrong with it.

This brings me to the question. Are people born masochistic? Or prone to beastiality? Or prone to liking kids? Are the latter two part of natures scheme to control the population as well? Are people born as beasties going to slowly become accepted like gays, or are we going to pump them full of drugs, or psychiatric care?

This is the reason simply stating that "people are born gay" isn't a good enough reason to accept gays, because people are born with lots of mental deviancies. Homosexuality is an acceptable one, but many are not. Simply going by the rule "they are born like that so its ok" isn't suitable.

you realize the only reason most americans have a problem with gays is because we (generally speaking) hold christian ideals and morals? did you know that in some tribal cultures, homosexual acts are complelety normal?
in one, for example, young boys give the older men fellatio in an attempt to "fill them up" with the essence needed to impregnate women, and a boy giving another boy fellatio is looked down upon because they are sucking away their life energy.
in another one, men are encouraged to engage in anal intercourse with other men and only allowed to fuck women for procreation. otherwise they camp in completely different areas than women and consider them to be unclean.

food for thought. calling it "population control" is a bunch of nonsense. face it, we're all a bunch of glorified monkeys, we all grow up in different areas with different ideals, and getting all indignant because we live in a society where homos are "morally wrong" is just ludicrous. and saying that anything is "wrong" or "bad" other than the two universal "wrongs" (killing and lying) is both ignorant and stereotypical.


all in all, who cares about other's sexual preferences?

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i hate accidentally making ghey porn. It's like "hey wait a sec, you're taping this?"

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i hate accidentally making ghey porn. It's like "hey wait a sec, you're taping this?"

making???

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Originally posted by Estella Actually, if one is born gay since birth, it seems to make a bit of pre-destined sense.

i personally don't know if i believe that you are pre-destined as homosexual. i think it all has to do with your surroundings, how you were raised, what you were exposed to, etc. a mix of nature and nurture. i think our minds are devoid of any knowledge or sexual preference when we are born, but we are influenced in one way or another by our environment. tabula rasa.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i hate accidentally making ghey porn. It's like "hey wait a sec, you're taping this?"

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue making??? i personally don't know if i believe that you are pre-destined as homosexual. i think it all has to do with your surroundings, how you were raised, what you were exposed to, etc. a mix of nature and nurture. i think our minds are devoid of any knowledge or sexual preference when we are born, but we are influenced in one way or another by our environment. tabula rasa.

I thought the exact same way until a sociology teacher explained to us that it had been proven that gay males possess a lower testosterone level than that of heterosexual males; thus influencing their level of voice, persona, etc. Hey, what is Tabula Rasa?! That is one of my favorite orchestral pieces !

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Originally posted by Estella I thought the exact same way until a sociology teacher explained to us that it had been proven that gay males possess a lower testosterone level than that of heterosexual males; thus influencing their level of voice, persona, etc. Hey, what is Tabula Rasa?! That is one of my favorite orchestral pieces !

now is that a natural thing or the effect of years of taking their mom's estrogen pills?

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue you realize the only reason most americans have a problem with gays is because we (generally speaking) hold christian ideals and morals? did you know that in some tribal cultures, homosexual acts are complelety normal? in one, for example, young boys give the older men fellatio in an attempt to "fill them up" with the essence needed to impregnate women, and a boy giving another boy fellatio is looked down upon because they are sucking away their life energy. in another one, men are encouraged to engage in anal intercourse with other men and only allowed to fuck women for procreation. otherwise they camp in completely different areas than women and consider them to be unclean.

You fail to realize that there are various other religions other than christianity that forbid homosexuality. You also fail to mention how many african tribes would destroy any male acting in a homosexual manner.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller now is that a natural thing or the effect of years of taking their mom's estrogen pills?

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Originally posted by Estella I thought the exact same way until a sociology teacher explained to us that it had been proven that gay males possess a lower testosterone level than that of heterosexual males; thus influencing their level of voice, persona, etc. Hey, what is Tabula Rasa?! That is one of my favorite orchestral pieces !

interesting, i didn't know that. but getting back to the tribes that do such acts, i doubt every male there has reduced testosterone, it is just socially acceptable to perform homosexual acts. who knows i guess.

tabula rasa = "clean slate" or the idea that our brains are devoid of knowledge when we are born, and through experiences we learn how to behave.

edit

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Originally posted by beats and beeps You fail to realize that there are various other religions other than christianity that forbid homosexuality. You also fail to mention how many african tribes would destroy any male acting in a homosexual manner.

true. i just wanted to point out that in some cultures, it is socially acceptable to perform homosexual acts. for us to knock other cultures or people for doing so is pretty ethnocentric of us.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps You also fail to mention how many african tribes would destroy any male acting in a homosexual manner.

hahaha

i once knew (he moved away) a flaming gay guy who only went after straight men. it was weird. he was a genius from princeton who spent all his money at crobar on drinks for all the closet fags...i mean straight guys who would be at the clubs and "hang out" with him all the time.

anyway he told me he knew he was gay when he was 4. i believed him. i believe in the gay gene. he said he liked barbies instead of g-i joes.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue interesting, i didn't know that. but getting back to the tribes that do such acts, i doubt every male there has reduced testosterone, it is just socially acceptable to perform homosexual acts. who knows i guess. tabula rasa = "clean slate" or the idea that our brains are devoid of knowledge when we are born, and through experiences we learn how to behave. edit true. i just wanted to point out that in some cultures, it is socially acceptable to perform homosexual acts. for us to knock other cultures or people for doing so is pretty ethnocentric of us.

Ha! Thanks ! I just learned something new.

Yes, but who really knows? Your tribal rituals were interesting

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