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Posted by amb_ on May-17-2005 14:54:

Satan (eek!) Tory Aurora MP Belinda Stronach crosses the floor to the Grits

I nearly feel out of my chair.

quote:
Aurora MP Belinda Stronach has crossed the floor from the Conservatives, and decided to join the Liberal Party, meaning almost certainly that the budget vote will pass, and no summer election will take place.

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Posted by starsearcher on May-17-2005 14:59:

Even if there WAS an election the Liberals would have won anyway...for fuk's sakes stop wasting tax payers money with this bullshit and do some fucking work...like RUN THE COUNTRY!


Posted by Matt on May-17-2005 14:59:

rofl


Posted by malek on May-17-2005 15:00:

OMFG.

thats one of the best backstabbing in recent history..




so the budget will passs.


Posted by RobbyG. on May-17-2005 15:08:

Satan (eek!)

HOLY shit ....that is HUGE news....I thought I was dreaming too when I turned my tv on...a huge coup for Martin....She's SO right that a Conservative/ PQ alliance is VERY bad for Canada right now & I guess she's been listening to Canadians & that we DO NOT want an election right now.


Posted by Jayx1 on May-17-2005 15:11:

this chick is a fucking bitch anyways... ..shows you what a sham her leadership contest was... the liberals can have her.


Posted by Matt on May-17-2005 15:11:

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/nati...rals050517.html


Posted by amb_ on May-17-2005 15:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
this chick is a fucking bitch anyways... ..shows you what a sham her leadership contest was... the liberals can have her.


Didn't the provincial Tories announce their controversial budget in her auto parts plant?


Posted by Jayx1 on May-17-2005 15:16:

She basically wrote her political obituary. Most people i know in aurora held their nose and voted for stronach even though she is an idiot because they were voting for the party. I predict that she will now lose in the next election. First of all shes a backstabber and seems to flow whichever way the wind is blowing (shes perfect for the liberals) Second she has no idea about any policies and most people perceive her as her dad's puppet (a staunch liberal)..

This just helped the conservatives secure a seat in aurora IMO. Its not like shes well liked in Aurora anyways. I happen to be registered in that riding so i will be definately voting accordingly.


Posted by Jayx1 on May-17-2005 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by amb_
Didn't the provincial Tories announce their controversial budget in her auto parts plant?


her dad's plant yes... Her dad (a liberal) was a very well respected politician. She is not.


Posted by Moral Hazard on May-17-2005 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by amb_
Didn't the provincial Tories announce their controversial budget in her auto parts plant?

yes


Posted by Jayx1 on May-17-2005 15:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
yes


no


Posted by Matt on May-17-2005 15:20:

who announces a budget in an auto parts plant?


fucking Tories.


Posted by Moral Hazard on May-17-2005 15:21:

This is somewhat shocking, however, Belinda isn't exactly what one would consider an idealogically motivated politition. Let's not forget that she had no designs on entering politics until someone told her that should could win the leadership of the conservative party (oops). He decision today is likely motivated by the fact that she is being given a cabinet post whereas it is likely should would not receive one in a Conservative government (as Harper is not very found of her). That being said, she always has been a red tory so this isn't a stretch for her.


Posted by Jayx1 on May-17-2005 15:21:

btw this is another example of why parliament needs to be reformed. I did not vote for a liberal to be my representitive. I voted for a conservative. This is not democracy.

The fact that she walks into the liberal party with a huge portfolio shows me that the rumours a few weeks ago of the liberals trying to bribe conservatives to switch parties is probably true.

Talk about desperate liberal undemocratic ploys. It's disgusting.

If there was ever a demonstration of just how far the liberals are willing to go to cling to power, this is it. More influence peddling if you ask me. Sell out the house to the lowest bidder in order to stay in power.


Posted by Moral Hazard on May-17-2005 15:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
no


Dude, she was CEO of Magna at the time.


Posted by starsearcher on May-17-2005 15:23:


Posted by Jayx1 on May-17-2005 15:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Dude, she was CEO of Magna at the time.


It's daddy's company no matter what title she has. Aurora is my hometown. I know all about the stronach politics. This is why ill be very surprised if people are dumb enough to vote for her after she double crossed her riding. Shes was already on thin ice before.


Posted by Tordan on May-17-2005 15:25:

Re: Tory Aurora MP Belinda Stronach crosses the floor to the Grits

quote:
Originally posted by amb_
I nearly feel out of my chair.


You're not the only one... LMAO!!


Posted by rabbitjoker on May-17-2005 15:25:

Dunno

IMO - Miss Stronach is the political equivalent of a whore - whomever dangles the carrot has her tail.

PC Party dangles an easily elected seat and (possible) leadership - she gets into politics.

Liberals dangle a cabinet seat - she changes parties.

This proves that politicians think the public is stupid.


Posted by Moral Hazard on May-17-2005 15:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
btw this is another example of why parliament needs to be reformed. I did not vote for a liberal to be my representitive. I voted for a conservative. This is not democracy.

The fact that she walks into the liberal party with a huge portfolio shows me that the rumours a few weeks ago of the liberals trying to bribe conservatives to switch parties is probably true.

Talk about desperate liberal undemocratic ploys. It's disgusting.


Jay, technically you voted for Belinda not for the Conservatives (despite what your thought process was). The only way around this would be to institute perportional representation.... you vote for a party and based on the percentage each party receives they get a perportional number of seats. While this sounds good and many countries have this it is a minority government machine. Moreover, it gives an incredible amount of power to the party leader as they decide who gets what seat. Personally, I don't like it, however, I agree that there should be some accountability measure for instances like this... perhaps an immediate bi-election would be appropriate.


Posted by Jayx1 on May-17-2005 15:27:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
IMO - Miss Stronach is the political equivalent of a whore - whomever dangles the carrot has her tail.

PC Party dangles an easily elected seat and leadership - she gets into politics.

Liberals dangle a cabinet seat - she changes parties.

This proves that politicians think the public is stupid.


I really hope she pays for this at the ballot box. If i were a liberal id be pissed off that this woman with absolutely no experience suddenly gets a huge portfolio. If i were Martha findlay id be especially furious. She has just be undemocratically ousted as the candidate in that riding.

This is not a good political move and definately not good for democracy in canada.


Posted by rabbitjoker on May-17-2005 15:29:

As a result of this - I believe there should be a "Party Change" rule in the house.

If on decides to change parties, they must have a bi-election within the riding.


Posted by Jayx1 on May-17-2005 15:31:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
As a result of this - I believe there should be a "Party Change" rule in the house.

If on decides to change parties, they must have a bi-election within the riding.


EXACTLY

There should also be an investigation into the allegations that the Liberals have been trying to bribe conservative MPs over the past few weeks with offers such as this one.

It just demonstrates to me that the Liberals have learned ABSOLUTELY nothing from the sponsorship scandal except that they can probably get away with just about everything they do.


Posted by starsearcher on May-17-2005 15:31:

eeeeeeeeeevryone's talking about this at the office now


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