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Posted by hydrolisko on May-18-2005 22:43:

how to make that sound when mixing

I was listening to some PvD sets yesterday and i realized that when he transitions from one song to another, he often makes this quick scratching sound. Anyone know how to do this effectively?

Posted by Tegu on May-19-2005 07:19:

like on politics of dancing?

Posted by DJ_Ikronix on May-19-2005 15:51:

You aren't talking about a backspin, are you?

Posted by Zack Roth on May-19-2005 17:46:

yeah, I'm not really sure what you're talking about...I haven't ever known PVD to sctarch during mixes...those sounds may just be part of the actual songs.

Posted by shades_of_gray on May-19-2005 17:57:

ok do it like this

place your finger at 12 oclock on the label of the record thats playing
catch the record quickly enough so it dosnt pause or run backwards
pull the record round backwards as fast as you can. spinning it on the slipmat

something like that

Posted by A.J. on May-19-2005 21:14:

hehe i have always wondered about this as well

You guys are talking about that quick "woop wooop woop" scratching noise, arent' you?

Posted by Zild on May-19-2005 22:05:

That wooop wooop wooop sound is a bass drum sample played in reverse. Its probably part of the production of one of the tracks that is playing.

Posted by dj_lane on May-19-2005 22:19:

he might pull the beat back 2 times then let go

i wouldnt do that, but who knows...

Posted by Nemesis44 on May-20-2005 13:32:

The man uses computer technology these days, it would be pretty darn easy to do that with the software out there today withoug breaking too much of a sweat. Might just be a sample pure and simple.

Take the remake of Signum -First Strike. All you have to do is mix it normaly as the production already stratching with the kick drum in it.

There is a way of catching the beat and working it when you beat juggle but that is quite difficult and I doubt that PvD does that.

Cheers
Nem

Posted by sayaboyoyo on May-20-2005 14:52:

thats right i have been listening some live set of paul van dyk and i was impressed by the scrath betweewn the cross fading i try to do it but it so hard to do

Posted by Exodus17 on May-21-2005 22:38:

PVD scratches? since when

you can make that woopwoop sound by either using a sample or if you have good rythm and a steady hand... "scratch" the first beat of the next track back and fourth a couple of times and let it go whilst Eqing the last track down

to be perfectly honest i havent listened to much as far as PVD sets/albums... just a few older livesets

but yea i kinda understand wut ur talking about... ive tried to do that sorta thing in my mixes but my tables wont have it i usually end up skiping ahead a couple of grooves

need real decks for such sophisticated record manipulation

Posted by razzi on May-24-2005 01:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Exodus17
about... ive tried to do that sorta thing in my mixes but my tables wont have it i usually end up skiping ahead a couple of grooves

need real decks for such sophisticated record manipulation

some good carts and some slippy slipmats are a cure for it. i use stanton str8-80s in my room with whitelabels and some nice butter rugs, and it almost never skips when i backspin (unless the record is warped.. i just stay away from backspins completely then). be sure to have a steady hand and keep your motion simple and unwavering. i know you hate to read it, but practice makes perfect.

razzi.

Posted by ARNATINE on May-25-2005 20:42:

sample

Posted by Driguez on May-25-2005 21:10:

quote:
Originally posted by ARNATINE
sample

most likely

Posted by A.J. on May-26-2005 04:14:

Somebody posted this question on another forum and friendly TA Juggalo Muli recorded a mix to demonstrate this trick. I think it's the same thing you are talking about......

http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/sh...ad.php?t=129548

Posted by starlabs on May-26-2005 18:51:

Cool link... helps a lot to listen to what you guys are talking about.

Posted by Nemesis44 on May-27-2005 07:33:

Hardly what I call being on the cutting edge of skills and effects.

This is just a quick stab with the fader nothing more. It would be ironic if this is what the original poster was refering to as people (myself included) have gone and given some quite involved answers describing various techniques. All of which I have to say kick this one in the nuts in terms skill and overall effect.

The effect in the sample isn't a scratch though. There is no movement of the platter.

Cheers
Nem

Posted by hydrolisko on May-27-2005 09:02:

hey that link is useful, it just might be what i'm looking for, i'll try it out and let yall know.

Posted by hydrolisko on May-27-2005 09:06:

oy, that sounds sikkk man!!! as in good!! but i was actually looking for something else. thanks very helpful sample.

Posted by vakus on May-27-2005 20:19:

PVD uses final scratch and modifies all his tracks before playing them. Maybe its a sample that he puts into the song before mixing live.