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Posted by djbruuen on May-22-2005 16:14:

Filter Vst fx???

hi guys, i'd love to be able to find a really good vst/direct x plugin for high pass low pass band pass functions (is this referred to as a dynamic eq??? i've seen this phrase, but am not sure)

anyways, thanks for your suggestions!


Posted by BOOsTER on May-22-2005 16:29:

get a waves bundle...

then put your VST Shell in your VST folder
and use the Waves AudioTrack as the low/hig/bandpass............


Posted by hey cheggy on May-22-2005 16:34:

The answer to your question is in the question itself.


Posted by hey cheggy on May-22-2005 16:35:

The answer would be Filter VST, by antares. Awsome product.


Posted by Beyer on May-22-2005 18:36:

Is the waveshell automatable?


Posted by BOOsTER on May-22-2005 20:08:

as far as I know the audiotrack by waves is automatable...at least in Acid Pro

Though I haven't tested it through waveshell


Posted by IDarkISwordI on May-23-2005 01:29:

Hey. All controls on all VSTs are automatable (with some very minor exceptions). The idea of having VSTs was to be able to do anything with it, that you could otherwise do with MIDI and hardware racks. There are a few things in some VSTs hard linked to certain controllers or arent automatable, such as the options (duh) and some other minor bits of the software that may not really effect the sound in a realtime manner. The only reason that something (minus the exceptions) wouldnt be automatable is due to a fault/lacking/shortfall of the host app.

Cheers,
Zac


Posted by hey cheggy on May-23-2005 05:35:

Waves audio track doesn't really have a filter. It has eq with shelfing but that's not really the same as a filter.


Posted by DjGeMiNi529 on May-23-2005 06:11:

if u use fl they got a vst effect called fruity filter
its pretty good


Posted by BOOsTER on May-23-2005 07:03:

quote:
Originally posted by hey cheggy
Waves audio track doesn't really have a filter. It has eq with shelfing but that's not really the same as a filter.


look at the modes of band 1 and 4...it does have a high/low pass switch...now I feel a bit confused


Posted by DJ Shibby on May-23-2005 07:12:

quote:
Originally posted by DjGeMiNi529
if u use fl they got a vst effect called fruity filter
its pretty good


Yup, it really is that simple.

Good luck.


Posted by Axolotyl on May-23-2005 07:39:

quote:
Originally posted by hey cheggy
The answer would be Filter VST, by antares. Awsome product.


+1

Played with it last night for the first time and was well impressed. The Sherman Filterbank of the VST world


Posted by DJule on May-23-2005 08:13:

Try the Korg MS20 FX, which is only the Filter and oscillator part of the Korg MS20 Synth. This is contained in the Korg Legacy collection. It provides you a high pass and a low pass filter which you can both use in the same time.


Posted by moth on May-23-2005 09:56:

I wouldn't buy the legacy collection just for a 2 pole filter...

I HIGHLY recommend the Antares FilterVST.

Fruity Filter is ok. Fruity Free Filter is nice too. PSP Nitro is pretty cool. Some of the BlueTubes plugins are good.

I only use Antares Filter these days though.


Posted by DJule on May-23-2005 10:06:

There is not only a Filter, there is 3 synths with it and 2 FX sections you can use separately.


Posted by h.vox on May-23-2005 10:48:

Re: Filter Vst fx???

quote:
Originally posted by djbruuen
hi guys, i'd love to be able to find a really good vst/direct x plugin for high pass low pass band pass functions (is this referred to as a dynamic eq??? i've seen this phrase, but am not sure)

anyways, thanks for your suggestions!


antares filter (pricey), kjaerhus classic filter (freeware, but not much worse), psp nitro.


Posted by DJule on May-23-2005 12:48:

Are you talking of this one:?

http://www.antarestech.com/products/filter.html

I think this filter should take a lot of CPU jsut to do (in most of the cases) a simple cutoff variation... I don't think it's very useful to have something like this for a simple use.


Posted by Dickie-T on May-23-2005 13:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DJule
Are you talking of this one:?

http://www.antarestech.com/products/filter.html

I think this filter should take a lot of CPU jsut to do (in most of the cases) a simple cutoff variation... I don't think it's very useful to have something like this for a simple use.

yeah, i feel the same way.. A filter should be simple, small and cpu efficient... I used Antares Filter in the past, my cpu increased like a penis on viagra


Posted by Beyer on May-23-2005 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Dickie-T
I used Antares Filter in the past, my cpu increased like a penis on viagra

Yea, the antares is a real cpu killer. Or cpu erecter, in your case!


Posted by DJule on May-23-2005 15:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Beyer
Yea, the antares is a real cpu killer. Or cpu erecter, in your case!


So, that's why I think this filter is not so good. And in most of the case I think people don't use all the possibilities this filter provides.


Posted by DigiNut on May-25-2005 05:39:

I went on this trek a while ago - for people who are looking for just a simple filter like the ones in FL as opposed to fancy-pants shit that eats up money and CPU, try these three (all free):

Filterizer - standard LP/HP/BP/Notch filter, with one extra cool feature, the ability to control the cutoff by MIDI note, which can be easier than automation depending on your setup (in Cubase you would add the filter as a MIDI track and just play stuff on it).

KarmaFX Filter - has a 2-pole filter AND a 1-pole filter, which is good for anyone who's grown accustomed to tweaking the highpass/lowpass knobs on FL's filters.

Sponge - 2-pole filter with a nice integrated LFO and several different waveforms. Supposedly it's MIDI controllable - I'd love for that feature to actually work.

For 9 out of 10 people, any of those should be fine. If anyone has a simple filter that's MIDI controllable (for real), preferably with MIDI learn, I'd love to know... I really want to be able to assign filter parameters to the knobs on my keyboard without having to use Steinberg's god-awful Remote Control.

P.S. Fruity Filter is not a VST effect. None of FL's built-in instruments or effects are VST, as far as I know.


Posted by ONION on May-25-2005 06:07:

PSP Nitro pwnz


Posted by h.vox on May-25-2005 07:58:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I went on this trek a while ago - for people who are looking for just a simple filter like the ones in FL as opposed to fancy-pants shit that eats up money and CPU, try these three (all free):

Filterizer - standard LP/HP/BP/Notch filter, with one extra cool feature, the ability to control the cutoff by MIDI note, which can be easier than automation depending on your setup (in Cubase you would add the filter as a MIDI track and just play stuff on it).

KarmaFX Filter - has a 2-pole filter AND a 1-pole filter, which is good for anyone who's grown accustomed to tweaking the highpass/lowpass knobs on FL's filters.

Sponge - 2-pole filter with a nice integrated LFO and several different waveforms. Supposedly it's MIDI controllable - I'd love for that feature to actually work.

For 9 out of 10 people, any of those should be fine. If anyone has a simple filter that's MIDI controllable (for real), preferably with MIDI learn, I'd love to know... I really want to be able to assign filter parameters to the knobs on my keyboard without having to use Steinberg's god-awful Remote Control.

P.S. Fruity Filter is not a VST effect. None of FL's built-in instruments or effects are VST, as far as I know.


maybe kjaerhus classic filter? ohmboyz frogmahe or quad frohmage should support this feature also ..... i know their delay does


Posted by EastDrive on May-25-2005 14:28:

quote:
Originally posted by h.vox
maybe kjaerhus classic filter? ohmboyz frogmahe or quad frohmage should support this feature also ..... i know their delay does


Kjaerhus Classic Filter is a good advice, but if you use Ohmboyz plugins you have to remember that their filter only permits frequency ranges from 40 to 10240Hz.
At least Frohmage and the Ohmboyz Delay- not shure about Quad-Frohmage.
For Cubase users I'd recommend Tonic-Filter- very CPU friendly and nice warm sound.


Posted by DigiNut on May-25-2005 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by h.vox
maybe kjaerhus classic filter? ohmboyz frogmahe or quad frohmage should support this feature also ..... i know their delay does

Nice - I've used the Classic Compressor, Flanger and Phaser for the longest time, I didn't even know they had a filter. Time to say goodbye to those other filters... although it still doesn't have MIDI learn.

Tonic and Q are both nice, but IMHO they still add needless complexity to very basic filtering operations. I'm very surprised that Steinberg didn't see fit to include a simple filter...


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