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Posted by RebeL9 on Nov-28-2001 15:51:

Israel in Europe?

I have always been thaugt in school that Israel lies in Asia. But here at tranceaddict it says Europe. Have Israel changed the location? someone please explain.
btw. Does this mean that the whole middle east lies in Europe?

Posted by DJ_BoN on Nov-28-2001 16:46:

Re: Israel in Europe?

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Originally posted by RebeL9
I have always been thaugt in school that Israel lies in Asia. But here at tranceaddict it says Europe. Have Israel changed the location? someone please explain.
btw. Does this mean that the whole middle east lies in Europe?

Israel lies exactly on the EUROPE-ASIA border, but although that geographically we are considered to be a part of asia, actually europe considers us an east-european country. We participate in UEFA CUP, UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, Euroleague (Basketball), we also participate in the Eurovision contest and we even win sometimes =)
And most important - our cities look like european cities, not like the arabs that sorround us..

Posted by YuVaL on Nov-28-2001 17:37:

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Originally posted by DJ_BoN

Israel lies exactly on the EUROPE-ASIA border, but although that geographically we are considered to be a part of asia, actually europe considers us an east-european country. We participate in UEFA CUP, UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, Euroleague (Basketball), we also participate in the Eurovision contest and we even win sometimes =)
And most important - our cities look like european cities, not like the arabs that sorround us..

Posted by m0sh on Nov-28-2001 17:55:

I have to dissagree with that

israel is in ASIA

You might think that we are from europe but we aint the thing about

sport isnt meaning anything its because we cant come to those conutrys its too dengerous to us that why they let us "be" in europe

anoter thing that we arent close to europe! our country isnt that developed,nope we more close to 3th world then to europe that might ppls dissagree but i can give the answer only in hebrew (too damn hard)

so we aint europe !

Posted by DJ_BoN on Nov-28-2001 18:05:

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Originally posted by MoSH_MaN
I have to dissagree with that

israel is in ASIA

You might think that we are from europe but we aint the thing about

sport isnt meaning anything its because we cant come to those conutrys its too dengerous to us that why they let us "be" in europe

anoter thing that we arent close to europe! our country isnt that developed,nope we more close to 3th world then to europe that might ppls dissagree but i can give the answer only in hebrew (too damn hard)

so we aint europe !

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Posted by TranceGiant on Nov-28-2001 21:09:

Mosh man seems to be the guys whos least influenced by israeli "propaganda" as id call the whole picture and ideologies taught to israelis by media school politis etc...

1. We aren't allowed to even ENTER certain asian(arab) countries
2. We hate them, they hate us
3. as for soccer, we've been playing a LOOONg time in the group with new zealand and australia, it took us till the mid 1990s till we were ALLOWEd to participate in european competitions (what u do not know is that AUSTRIA is one of the countires most caring for Israel, its them who helped us to get into UEFA)
4. Israel is not Europe, period.
Our mentality isnt theirs, our economy isnt theirs, social security system..of course this is all somehow connected to the war-situation but still..we're mainly living on american dollars..
5. we got great "heads" in our country though, expecially in terms of High Tech, (take Mirabilis for example, the guys inventing the divine ICQ)
6. stop underestimating "the arabs" in a generalizing way..
ever been to ANY arab country? Pkease dont answer with "Sinai" now
and afghanistan has got nothing to do with ARABS, its a MUSLIM country, dont mix it ..

Posted by m0sh on Nov-28-2001 21:46:

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Posted by RebeL9 on Nov-28-2001 22:27:

come on guys stop the hewbrew jibberish. I want to know what you are writing so use english
about that Afghanistan part. I wonder how some people believe that Afghanistan is an arabic country. There are no arabs in afghanistan (except for the last few years arab terrorists), the afghan lanugage is nothing like the arabics, the afghans have a complete different way of seeing the world than the arabs.
I guess its only the uneducated ones that thinks that Afghanistan is an arabic country.

Posted by m0sh on Nov-29-2001 07:04:

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Originally posted by Hell_Copter

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its not i how think or like we arent in europe we just play in europe cuz we can play in asia we cant go in some countrys

we aint that delevopled like europe

Posted by Hell_Copter on Nov-29-2001 12:20:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
come on guys stop the hewbrew jibberish. I want to know what you are writing so use english
about that Afghanistan part. I wonder how some people believe that Afghanistan is an arabic country. There are no arabs in afghanistan (except for the last few years arab terrorists), the afghan lanugage is nothing like the arabics, the afghans have a complete different way of seeing the world than the arabs.
I guess its only the uneducated ones that thinks that Afghanistan is an arabic country.

what i meant to say was that afghanistan has the same shit like all the arabs.
i don't give a damn about them and i see myself like part of europe
the soccer and basketball leagues only back up my point.. but i'm not basing it on sport
i think we are developed just like other european countrys.
do u think we ride cammels here?!!?
we have cars just like all europe

Posted by fastmp3 on Nov-29-2001 12:38:

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Originally posted by Hell_Copter

what i meant to say was that afghanistan has the same shit like all the arabs.
i don't give a damn about them and i see myself like part of europe
the soccer and basketball leagues only back up my point.. but i'm not basing it on sport
i think we are developed just like other european countrys.
do u think we ride cammels here?!!?
we have cars just like all europe

u like stereotypes don't u ? well what about these :
do u have a big nose ? are u greedy ? are you smelly ?
just because u ride a car doesn't mean u look like an european ...

and why the hell u guys hate Arabs and Muslims ?

Posted by on Nov-29-2001 12:44:

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Originally posted by FASTDJMP3

and why the hell u guys hate Arabs and Muslims ?

you can hear the news and acually ask us?

I personally don't hate arabs... I have alot of arabic friends, but I do hate those Fatah, Hizbalah and Palestinians and as an Israeli soldier... I would be happy to go there and shoot some arab's butt!

Posted by Hell_Copter on Nov-29-2001 12:50:

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Originally posted by FASTDJMP3

u like stereotypes don't u ? well what about these :
do u have a big nose ? are u greedy ? are you smelly ?
just because u ride a car doesn't mean u look like an european ...

and why the hell u guys hate Arabs and Muslims ?

we hate the arabs so much because of all the jewish people they killed
and because all the wars
and lots of other stuff
don't u listen to news??

Posted by YuVaL on Nov-29-2001 12:51:

quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3

u like stereotypes don't u ? well what about these :
do u have a big nose ? are u greedy ? are you smelly ?
just because u ride a car doesn't mean u look like an european ...

and why the hell u guys hate Arabs and Muslims ?

uncle.. we dont h8 arabs and muslims.. i only have problems with the gihad and all the other fuckas that do all the terror attacks..

dont worry one day we will sit together with the same nargilla and smoke like chimnez

Posted by fastmp3 on Nov-29-2001 12:53:

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Originally posted by DJ-Energy

uncle.. we dont h8 arabs and muslims.. i only have problems with the gihad and all the other fuckas that do all the terror attacks..

dont worry one day we will sit together with the same nargilla and smoke like chimnez

and what about racist jewish people like Sharon and all the likoud crap ?

Posted by on Nov-29-2001 12:55:

you're getting too much into Politics here...
I don't think we should start this discusstion because it will lead nowhere!

Posted by YuVaL on Nov-29-2001 12:56:

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Originally posted by FASTDJMP3

and what about racist jewish people like Sharon and all the likoud crap ?

Sharon is not racist man
he just wants the best 4 our country.. come to israel and try living here a month

you'll see all the shit we have to go through
all the news in the world only take the arabs side because they show how poor and mizrable they are
but they never see our side!!.. they dont see how many ppl die each day in israel just defending their country!!

Posted by DJ_BoN on Nov-29-2001 12:56:

quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3

u like stereotypes don't u ? well what about these :
do u have a big nose ? are u greedy ? are you smelly ?
just because u ride a car doesn't mean u look like an european ...

and why the hell u guys hate Arabs and Muslims ?

muslims despise us, and especially the muslim-arabs...
well maybe not in morroco but here in the middle east we are under threat all the time..
we don't hate them we just don't like this situation where they are all against us

Posted by fastmp3 on Nov-29-2001 13:05:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_BoN

muslims despise us, and especially the muslim-arabs...
well maybe not in morroco but here in the middle east we are under threat all the time..
we don't hate them we just don't like this situation where they are all against us

How do u expect them not to hate you ? of course they hate you , u stole their land in 1948 , u didn't respect the UN resolution of the late 60's and ur colonization politic is still running . What if a bunch of chinese or hindus or i don't know came and steal ur land ? how would u react if they are keeping their expansion ?

Now let's forget the past and say israel is a country . Ok i have no problem with that , but why the hell do u keep on taking the Arabs lands and give them to a bunch of colons ? don't u think that the Arabs have the right to live too ? after all they are the LEGITIME owners of that place , they didn't come from Russia and from all other countries 50 years ago , they were there all their life until one day the brits decided not to give them their indepedance , instead of that they called the jews from all over the world to go there ... after all , i call it the Occupied Palestine , not israel

Posted by Hell_Copter on Nov-29-2001 13:13:

quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3

How do u expect them not to hate you ? of course they hate you , u stole their land in 1948 , u didn't respect the UN resolution of the late 60's and ur colonization politic is still running . What if a bunch of chinese or hindus or i don't know came and steal ur land ? how would u react if they are keeping their expansion ?

Now let's forget the past and say israel is a country . Ok i have no problem with that , but why the hell do u keep on taking the Arabs lands and give them to a bunch of colons ? don't u think that the Arabs have the right to live too ? after all they are the LEGITIME owners of that place , they didn't come from Russia and from all other countries 50 years ago , they were there all their life until one day the brits decided not to give them their indepedance , instead of that they called the jews from all over the world to go there ... after all , i call it the Occupied Palestine , not israel

the brits gave them an opportunity to get independence but in a smaller country than they'd wanted
it's their problen and not ours the didn't take it

Posted by fastmp3 on Nov-29-2001 13:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Hell_Copter

the brits gave them an opportunity to get independence but in a smaller country than they'd wanted
it's their problen and not ours the didn't take it

that's very funny man , centuries and centuries ago the arabs were living in peace there , but then the brits came and occupied the place , instead of giving them 100% of the occupied land after the independance (just like they did with the other occupied countries) , they proposed only a small part ... do u think ANYONE else including the arabs would accept that ? don't be idiot man ...

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