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Voyager 1 reaches solar system's final frontier

Voyager 1 reaches solar system's final frontier

For you kids out there that don't know about the Voyager spacecraft visit the Voyager Home Page at the Jet Propulsion Labs

I am fortunate enough to remember when Voyager 1 was launched, looks like "vinyl" will be around forever, travelling through "the void".

I once saw a DJ, long ago, that had 2 "prop" gold records with the male and female representaions, and the "starburst" on them (like Voyager's disc) very cool!

Yes, I've not forgotten about these first, and who knows...possibly last for a long time, deep space probes.

You would think in almost 30 years we would have become a "space bound" species, very disappointing ....well maybe in my next life

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Originally posted by zookeeper I am fortunate enough to remember when Voyager 1 was launched, looks like "vinyl" will be around forever, travelling through "the void". I once saw a DJ, long ago, that had 2 "prop" gold records with the male and female representaions, and the "starburst" on them (like Voyager's disc) very cool! Yes, I've not forgotten about these first, and who knows...possibly last for a long time, deep space probes. You would think in almost 30 years we would have become a "space bound" species, very disappointing ....well maybe in my next life

To be fair, even if we had the technology to be "space bound"...where would we go?!

VGER






Commander Spock: V'Ger must evolve. It's knowledge has reached the limits of this universe and it must evolve. What it requires of it's god, doctor, is the answer to it's question, "is there nothing more"?
Commander Leonard 'Bones' McCoy, M.D.: What more is there than the universe, Spock?
Commander Willard Decker: Other dimensions. Higher levels of being.
Commander Spock: The existance of which cannot be proven logically. Therefore, V'Ger is incapable of believing in them.
Captain James T. Kirk: What it needs in order to evolve... Is a human quality. Our capacity to leap beyond logic.
Commander Willard Decker: And joining with it's creator might accomplish that.
Commander Leonard 'Bones' McCoy, M.D.: You mean this machine wants to physically join with a human? Is that possible?
Commander Willard Decker: Let's find out.



The new Director's Cut is worth watching. The new graphics are great. Make sure to watch it at night and turn off all your lights.

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Originally posted by George Smiley To be fair, even if we had the technology to be "space bound"...where would we go?!

Well, I suppose we could go send research vessles to other star systems and look for any terrestrial planets. At the very least we could build mining stations on some of our nearer planets.

Heh, Vger was great

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Well, I suppose we could go send research vessles to other star systems and look for any terrestrial planets. At the very least we could build mining stations on some of our nearer planets. Heh, Vger was great

Tim Bisley: "Just as sure as every odd numbered Star Trek was shite"

For starters: we could go and confirm Lunar Prospector's findings. That could jump start interstellar travel.

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Originally posted by George Smiley Tim Bisley: "Just as sure as every odd numbered Star Trek was shite"

There was never a Star Trek that was shit!

Just a thought. Is the Voyager literally just a probe to send an electronic signal back to earth to show its distance? Or does it have some form of camera inside?
Also due to the distance the probe is, the electronice signal would be very slow wouldnt it? Years behind?

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Originally posted by Jackson Just a thought. Is the Voyager literally just a probe to send an electronic signal back to earth to show its distance? Or does it have some form of camera inside?

Well, it's not just a distance signal emitting probe, what good would that do? It does have a camera, and it also has various measuring equipment for magnetic fields, solar wind, etc. All those big pictures of Neptune and Uranus (and Jupiter and Saturn until some 10 years ago) came from Voyagers.

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Also due to the distance the probe is, the electronice signal would be very slow wouldnt it? Years behind?

Several hours behind at best. Solar system isn't that big.

Thanks for clearing that up Tito

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf VGER Commander Spock: V'Ger must evolve. It's knowledge has reached the limits of this universe and it must evolve. What it requires of it's god, doctor, is the answer to it's question, "is there nothing more"? Commander Leonard 'Bones' McCoy, M.D.: What more is there than the universe, Spock? Commander Willard Decker: Other dimensions. Higher levels of being. Commander Spock: The existance of which cannot be proven logically. Therefore, V'Ger is incapable of believing in them. Captain James T. Kirk: What it needs in order to evolve... Is a human quality. Our capacity to leap beyond logic. Commander Willard Decker: And joining with it's creator might accomplish that. Commander Leonard 'Bones' McCoy, M.D.: You mean this machine wants to physically join with a human? Is that possible? Commander Willard Decker: Let's find out. The new Director's Cut is worth watching. The new graphics are great. Make sure to watch it at night and turn off all your lights.

LOL!
That's what I was thinking...

Hmmm...I'll have to get the Director's Cut me thinks...thx for the head's up...

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Originally posted by zookeeper I am fortunate enough to remember when Voyager 1 was launched, looks like "vinyl" will be around forever, travelling through "the void". I once saw a DJ, long ago, that had 2 "prop" gold records with the male and female representaions, and the "starburst" on them (like Voyager's disc) very cool! Yes, I've not forgotten about these first, and who knows...possibly last for a long time, deep space probes. You would think in almost 30 years we would have become a "space bound" species, very disappointing ....well maybe in my next life

Well, Voyagers weren't really made as deep space probes, their primary mission was to explore the outer solar planets except for Pluto. Both they and the Pioneer 10 have operated well beyond their intended lifespan. As for the deep space probes, Pluto-Kuiper probe will be launched, probably in 2007.

But really, you can't travel to deep space with current propulsion methods. It took Voyagers 30 years to reach the edge of the solar system, but the radius of the solar system is some 100 times smaller than the distance to our nearest star. The only way to go deep space would be to find something better than the current chemical rockets, or even something better than what is being developed right now. Probably nothing less of nuclear/fusion/antimatter drives can do it, and those are still years away...well, except for nuclear and the Project Orion

Deep Space 1 and Ion Propulsion

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Deep Space 1 and Ion Propulsion

Yes, I know of DS1 probe and the Ion Propulsion engine, and although it's way better than the regular chemical rockets, it's still not really sufficient for interstellar travel. You see, if the xenon gas travels at 35km/s relative to the spacecraft, that means that the craft can go forward at max 17.5km/s, and while that is some 10 times better than the conventional chemical rockets, it still measures up only to 0.00005c, meaning that it would take mere 80000 years to reach the nearest star. Let's say that the technology will improve 10 or even 100 times, that still leaves us with 8000 or 800 years of travel. The reason I mentioned fusion and antimatter is that for generating that much hihger velocities of gas, you need much more electricity. And you really can't get that much of it from solar panels unless the ship is the size of Manhattan.

Let's just try to get back to the Moon first, then we could have the correct enviornment to test new modes of interstellar travel.

Just think of all the untapped natural resources of the Moon and the tourist possibilities...the new Las Vegas.

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