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Muslims Use Bible As Toilet Paper!!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/a...RTICLE_ID=44324
While Muslims have responded with deadly outrage to the now-retracted report by Newsweek of alleged Quran desecration by U.S. interrogators, there was little outcry three years ago when Islamic terrorists holed up in Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity reportedly used the Bible as toilet paper.
Catholic priests in the church marking the spot where Jesus was believed to have been born said that during the five-week siege, Palestinians tore up some Bibles for toilet paper and removed many valuable sacramental objects, according to a May 15, 2002, report by the Washington Times.
Newsweek is under fire for a report in its May 9 edition that sparked protests and rioting across the Muslim world resulting in 17 dead, scores injured, relief buildings burned down and a setback to years of coalition-building against terrorists.
Newsweek's Periscope column written by Michael Isikoff and John Barry included a brief item alleging U.S. military investigators at the Guantanamo Bay prison found evidence that interrogators placed copies of the Quran down the toilet in an effort to get prisoners to talk.
Despite Newsweek's retraction, the outrage in the Muslim world continues.
In Saudi Arabia yesterday, the country's top religious authority, Grand Mufti Adul-Aziz al-Sheik, condemned the alleged desecration and called for an investigation "to alleviate the sorrow that befell Muslims."
"We condemn and denounce this criminal act against Muslims' most sacred item," al-Sheik said.
Afghanistan's government said Newsweek should be held responsible for damages caused by the demonstrations, and Pakistan said the magazine's apology and retraction were "not enough."
In contrast, during the 2002 church siege, the muted complaints of Christians under the Muslim-dominated Palestinian Authority gained little traction.
The Palestinian gunmen, members of Yasser Arafat's Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, seized church stockpiles of food and "ate like greedy monsters" until the food ran out, while more than 150 civilians went hungry, the Washington Times report said.
The indulgence lasted about two weeks into the 39-day siege, when the food and drink ran out, according to an account by four Greek Orthodox priests trapped inside. A church helper told the Times the quantity of food consumed by the gunmen in the first 15 days should have lasted six months.
Angry Orthodox priests showed reporters empty bottles of whiskey, champagne, vodka, cognac and French wine on the floor along with hundreds of cigarette butts.
"They should be ashamed of themselves. They acted like animals, like greedy monsters. Come, I will show you more," said one priest, who declined to give his name.
Computers were taken apart and a television set dismantled for use as a hiding place for weapons.
"You can see what repayment we got for 'hosting' these so-called guests," said Archbishop Ironius, according to the Times report.
More stupid religous crap....the world would be better off without it.
They gave out copies of the New Testiment to everyone in our school and half of them ended up torn to pieces and strewn across the play ground...
Where was the Islamophobe's outrage then?? 
One of the best possible uses for both the bible and the kuran, imo...
Crusade! Crusade!
I vote MisterOpus to lead! Onward to victory! Let us smite the heathens!
Oh and did the Palestinians do it to deliberately offend Christians or out of neccessity?
If they did it at all that is, which I would say is a matter of debate seeing as the Priests only said that the terrorists ate a load of food, where the claim they used the Bible for arsewipe came from is apparently a mystery...
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| Originally posted by George Smiley They gave out copies of the New Testiment to everyone in our school and half of them ended up torn to pieces and strewn across the play ground... Where was the Islamophobe's outrage then?? |
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| Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 One of the best possible uses for both the bible and the kuran, imo... |
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| Originally posted by George Smiley Oh and did the Palestinians do it to deliberately offend Christians or out of neccessity? If they did it at all that is, which I would say is a matter of debate seeing as the Priests only said that the terrorists ate a load of food, where the claim they used the Bible for arsewipe came from is apparently a mystery... |
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| Originally posted by St_Andrew +1 This whole newsweek thing is blown out of proportion... |
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| Originally posted by Yoepus But its not the western media that has blown it out of proportion this time. I do think however that Newsweek should pay indemities to Afghanistan and the people killed due to the riots this false piece of reporting caused. I'm sick and tired of the media spewing lies, confirm your sources and grow some testicales. |
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| Originally posted by Yoepus But its not the western media that has blown it out of proportion this time. I do think however that Newsweek should pay indemities to Afghanistan and the people killed due to the riots this false piece of reporting caused. I'm sick and tired of the media spewing lies, confirm your sources and grow some testicales. |
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| Originally posted by josh4 News magazines don't kill people, Muslims do. |
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| Originally posted by Dervish |
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| Originally posted by josh4 News magazines don't kill people, Muslims do. |
Speaking of which..
have u ever been in a situation where u were forced to use something else other than regular toilet paper to "do the job" ?
Me - thank god , no except for tissues.
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer I hope he was being sarcastic. |
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| Originally posted by Yoepus Wow they really taught you how to be a scholar real good at your unviersity didn't they?! You can't even find a source when its named and mentioned! It's just sad the state of your academic institutions in the UK. The claim that " Islamic terrorists holed up in Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity reportedly used the Bible as toilet paper" came from "a May 15, 2002, report by the Washington Times." Now in turn that Washington Times report is titled "'GREEDY MONSTERS' RULED CHURCH" and that source cites that Catholic Priests making the claim that: "Even in the Roman Catholic areas of the complex there was evidence of disregard for religious norms. Catholic priests said that some Bibles were torn up for toilet paper, and many valuable sacramental objects were removed. "Palestianians took candelabra, Icons and anything that looked like gold," said a Franciscan, the Rev. Nicholas Marquez from Mexico." Come on Georegy, I'm disappointed. I thought you were at least capable of a tad of research, for god-sake you were supposed to have been trained in doing this exact type of thing for the past who-knows how many years you've been learning Middle Eastern and Political Studies. Anyway a copy of the article can be found here: http://www.internationalwallofpraye...gton-Times.html Confirmation that it actually ran in the Washington's Time can be found here: http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we...rs%20AND%20date(2002)&p_field_date-0=YMD_date&p_params_date-0=date:B,E&p_text_date-0=2002&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date &xcal_useweights=noNow if you are trying to make the ridicilous argument that the Palestinians had a "necessity " to use the bible as toilet paper you are really making a far-reaching and stupid argument. Afterall, was it a necessity to steal "anything that looked like gold" and sacramental objects?! If you were to make an argument against the claim, the best would be ad-hominem or to attack the credibility of the priests themselves. Seriously Georgey, I know you like to take the contrarian point just to piss people off, but this time you really have made yourself look ridicilously stupid. |
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| Originally posted by TranceGiant Speaking of which.. have u ever been in a situation where u were forced to use something else other than regular toilet paper to "do the job" ? Me - thank god , no except for tissues. |
) was a pile of flyers! Fuckin card board flyers!! And yes, I did it, and it fucking ripped my arse to shreads! And AND!! When I had finished I was sat there on the toilet and I looked up, and on top of the door frame (so you couldn't see it from the out side) was A ROLL OF FUCKING TOILET PAPER!!!!!!
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| Originally posted by George Smiley Oh My Fucking God you just brought back a baaaaaaaad memory (altho you ******s will probably find it hilarious!!) I was in Cream (club in Liverpool) and really needed to take a shit. So I went to the toilet and checked all the cubicals and, yep, you guessed it, no toilet paper!! So I asked at the bar for some tissues or summat but they didn't have any, and I reeeeeeeeeeally needed to take a dump, like the turtle's head was makin a run for it! The only thing I could find (God what I would have given for a Bible!! ) was a pile of flyers! Fuckin card board flyers!! And yes, I did it, and it fucking ripped my arse to shreads! And AND!! When I had finished I was sat there on the toilet and I looked up, and on top of the door frame (so you couldn't see it from the out side) was A ROLL OF FUCKING TOILET PAPER!!!!!! |
I've use the actual cardboard roll once or twice. Not fun.
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| Originally posted by George Smiley Oh My Fucking God you just brought back a baaaaaaaad memory (altho you ******s will probably find it hilarious!!) I was in Cream (club in Liverpool) and really needed to take a shit. So I went to the toilet and checked all the cubicals and, yep, you guessed it, no toilet paper!! So I asked at the bar for some tissues or summat but they didn't have any, and I reeeeeeeeeeally needed to take a dump, like the turtle's head was makin a run for it! The only thing I could find (God what I would have given for a Bible!! ) was a pile of flyers! Fuckin card board flyers!! And yes, I did it, and it fucking ripped my arse to shreads! And AND!! When I had finished I was sat there on the toilet and I looked up, and on top of the door frame (so you couldn't see it from the out side) was A ROLL OF FUCKING TOILET PAPER!!!!!! |
p.s who's pictures was on those flyers I wonder?
Fuckin' copycats
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| Originally posted by Arbiter Fuckin' copycats |
can there be a part 2 in the crusades to kill them all.
i bet everyone of us is still a barbarian and would like some sweet revenge.
further more, the crusades were long time ago, britain was at the peak.
i see if the crusades include america and the slavs,germans and danish.
shoudl be a sight to see. fucking barbarians unleash
Temple Mount Antiquities Destroyed In 'Cultural Intifadah' [Excerpts]
Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) - Israeli archeologists are quietly sifting through
tons of dirt that Islamic religious authorities excavated from the Temple
Mount in Jerusalem several years ago -- an excavation that critics have
dubbed a "cultural intifadah."
Using heavy machinery instead of the hand tools of an archeologist, the
Islamic religious authorities several years ago dug out a giant "emergency
exit" -- some 36 feet deep and 130 feet wide -- for a mosque built earlier
under the Temple Mount. The unsupervised removal of tons of soil has been
called an "archeological crime." The material was dumped in several spots
outside the Old City in eastern Jerusalem, including the Kidron Valley.
In a small national park on the eastern side of Jerusalem, with a view of
the golden Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount visible in the distance, Dr.
Gabriel Barkay of Bar-Ilan University has been quietly working with several
archeology students and a host of volunteers for six months to sift through
the material dug out of the Temple Mount.
They wanted to keep a low profile, he said, so as not to attract the
attention of people who might want to put a stop to the project. So far they
have found thousands of artifacts jumbled together from various eras.
Barkay said it was a tragedy that the Western world was not more concerned
about the destruction of the antiquities on the Temple Mount.
The world community was outraged when the Taliban blew up two 165-foot
nearly 2,000-year-old statues of Buddha in Afghanistan in 2001. But the
destruction of "the heartland of [Jewish and Christian] faith did not create
an effect as it should have done," said Barkay.
"Very clearly parallel to the armed [Palestinian] intifadah is also the
cultural intifadah, more serious than the armed intifadah, Palestinians
claiming Jews never had a right to this country, Jews were never here,"
Barkay added.
"The material is without context, stratification. It was brutally uprooted
from its roots. It lost 80 percent of its archeological value." Barkay said.
Nevertheless, they will save 20 percent of its value, which is "more than
zero, still significant," he added.
A shipping container at the site, which acts as an office, contains many
flat cardboard boxes on a worktable, full of categorized treasures that have
been found.
By the door stands that largest piece -- a three-foot-high section of a
marble pillar with purple veins running through it. The marble would have
been imported from Asia Minor, Barkay said. They know it came from the
Temple Mount because there are others like it there, Barkay said.
They have found pottery shards -- 15 percent of which date back to the First
Jewish Temple period -- the days of Biblical King Solomon. But workers will
never be able to put together a complete vessel because of the way things
were mixed up, he said.
Barkay said the workers won't be able to finish sifting all of the material
they have but will get a good sampling. The project, which is funded by
private donors, is scheduled to continue until summer, he said. All of the
artifacts as well as the remaining material from the Temple Mount belong to
the Antiquities Authority by law (Julie Stahl, CNSNews.com, Jerusalem Bureau
Chief, May 06, 2005).
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