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Hey TA's

Just updated the link with the new version of Airburst.

Funked up techtrance with melodic elements. Hope you like it, I had fun making it.

Please have a listen and leave your comments =)


Axolotyl - Airburst

Hi Ax...

something about that kick. Dunno.. not quite....maybe it's just lonely...hmmm.

I know. It needs a better reverb. Maybe that's it. Slow start...almost proggy I guess. That cymbal/hihat sound gets to be much after several minutes...thankfully it stops at the break.

I just don't find it "melodic" as you stated. It lacks a hook of any kind and therefore doesn't really seem melodic. There is a melody halfway through but it fails to really capture the emotion that a "hook" should be able to do. Maybe you should add another motif and synth on top of that.

Good luck!

Hey man,
Listening .... I notice that the overall sound is too flat bro, sounds too plane, I would try to make ti sound a bit more crispy , bass line is fine .
The build up is a bit conventional, monotone, I agree about the progressive comment .
A big point is that all sounds very clean!
I like the melodie you got in the breakdown, sounds cluby.
In overall, u have very good ideas, I just would work more the overall, making it more interesting, it's too flat imo, and I would do the build up also more animated and dynamic, other than that u have a very sweet track here , keep the good wori mate .
Kopi =o.

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Originally posted by kopi_luwak Hey man, Listening .... I notice that the overall sound is too flat bro, sounds too plane, I would try to make ti sound a bit more crispy , bass line is fine .

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Originally posted by Axolotyl Sorry, its a bit quiet in places, as its not yet mastered.

Since you haven't mastered, I won't comment in the technical part.

When I downloaded your track, I was expecting a melodic work, I can say it has melodic elements, but just elements, this tends to be more psy-tech trance than melodic, which is good for my taste.

Try to add harmony with more percussion elements, use a phaser in your hats to make them sound more crispy (or atleast that is what I do) , but watch out with the rate and the depth, you want both parts of the phaser act subtle in your hats.

Now, as a listener , didn't excite me, is a cool track, but is not a track that would be in my mind for days to come, easily forgettable.

Sry...

Looking forward to hear the mastered version to comment in depth.

Hey mate, cool track you've got here. It's not my usual style but I liked all the melodic elements and the flow is great.

Overall it sounds a little dry, maybe add a touch of reverb on some elements, or some kind of ambient effects to really help fill out the sound.

I also reckon the bassline is too soft compared with the kick. The kick is nice and loud but the bass needs to match it for loudness or else you lose energy when the kick is not playing. A sub-bass would help a lot too.

Overall a very cool track! Great work for your second track, keep it up!

First of all, I agree with the kick, it seems to lack a bit punch. I know it's psy that doesnt have such a big kick but a bit more bottom (100-200Hz) should do it. And make the bassline a bit heavier so that it works together with the kick, not underneath it. In the beginning, this stands out but later on it works better.
Another thing is that I dont find your hihat sounds very crispy. You should try layering them with each other so that they fuller, or use better samples. One of them sounds just like a long noise, I know that can be improved.
Cool introduction of the melodies, though I think the buildup is a slight bit too long for Psy. But it's not typical Psy anyway, it sounds a bit too conventional to really become psy (dont take this as a critique, the tune is great... just for categorizing..). So I'll shut my mouth and carry on

Very nice, original and bouncy rythm at 5:00, where the track reached a great climax. Really, really loving it. It might be that the track is a bit silent (yeah, I read that its not yet mastered). But one thing you should do when finalizing your track: Add more lower mids. They will fill your track so that the feeling of 'emptiness' some people mentioned is gone.

Anyway, I'm just impressed with the track, it's by far better than your last one. The main theme is awesome and I'm listening to the tune for 10 times now, I cant get enough of the cool layering and melodies. Keep it up!

This track is really quiet. I had to turn it right up to get emersed in zee sound.

The starting Hihats need to be revised. They are full though it feels more like a noisy hisss hisss hisss. maybe shorten it to just a 'his'.

4.00 Nice layering. Ther layout of this track is excellent. I enjoy the ideas behind it; this track has heaps of potential.

4.40 turn up that bass! make it fatter!

The leads are awesome. I recommend you dublicate the lead synths & then turn the dublicate down an octive. Im thinking that the extra layer will fill the up the sound & give it more energy.

Give us a PM as I look forward to hearing the finish mastered product.

Xeno.

Thanks for the great feedback everyone!!

Mastering should fix some of the issues mentioned, but thanks to everyone for their tips


Digital Aura: Shit, I didnt want it to sound proggy , LoL... Yeah, to be honest I'm not sure what genre it is. My best guess is a blend between Astral Projection and Darren Tate .... meh, I dont think its very psytek though, not really minimal enough I think.

kopi: Good ideas, planning to add some more automation and fx I think, should make things a bit more interesting hopefully =) Also, I'll try playing with the structure to build more tension.

PDM: Good tip with the phaser dude, thanks for sharing. Going to try that right now with some new hihat samples!

pho mo: Thanks man. My last effort was a bit muddy, so I wanted to try and thin things out a bit with this one. Atleast theres room for some fx now without it getting too cluttered =)

cybernetica: Great reviewing man!! Totally humbled that you've put it on repeat I intentionally tried to stay away from psy track structure in favour of a more melodic build up. Just like to be different I guess

Xeno: Yeah, those hats are crap, time to find some new samples I think... Leads are already doubled.. lol... might give a third layer a shot


Thanks again for taking the time to comment guys. All your tips have been really helpful. I definately feel a bit more back on track with this one. Will post up when its in a more polished state

Just listened to Airburst. It's a nice auld track alright. Everyone's already commented on the volume so I won't again. Apart from that last sentence! I really like the way the song progresses. There's a natural flow to it. And I just LOVE that kick that's offbeat. That's a decent hook. I agree with whoever said it was a small bit empty. The octaved or detuned synth should take care of that alright.

Keep up the good work.

Dec

PS I've just spent ten frusrating minutes waiting for my latest unfinished to be posted but to no avail. Any ideas? Maybe I'll try a third party hosting site. Any recommendations?

Everyone else has spoken the truth about your kick; it needs punch. Pump a bit more energy into the lower range.

Nice sounds at around 1:30

Your hats at 1:49 could be a bit louder. As is, they're very quiet.

I also agree that this track is a bit quiet, especially in the break down.

Yeah, I gotta go with everyone else. This lead is rather dry. Maybe put some panned delay on it.

It wasn't very interesting, overall. It wasn't repetitive or anything, it just didn't have much energy, although I suppose the low volume may have had something to do with that. It was fairly well-made, otherwise. I just didn't like it too much.

Thanks for the replies guys, really appreciate the feedback and totally agree with everything thats been said. I've spent most of the weekend pumping up the leads and trimming the filler. Its sounding pretty driving now, but I'll let you guys be the judge

Check back in a day or so for an update.

Axo

the infamous kick� is so easy to fix that kick stuff that really isent a problem,i liked the bass,i dont think sounds to soft for the track,t by the way is a strange mixture of genres,club,house,psy,dance?the snare is simply greath,i enjoyed a lot listening your track,waiting for the totally mastered version d( -_- )b

People already commented on kick. Nough' said.

I like your bass. Give us some more presense with it. I'd say crank it's volume a bit more, and then bus a few tracks (say the kick and a ch-hihat) into the external key of a compressor. And then compress it at like a 2:1 ratio, just subtley. I just love basslines. This one needs more love.

Interesting progression. Leaves something to be desired. Feels a bit empty as others have said.

I like the synth work so far.

Just curious, what programs are you using to produce this track?
Good work so far.

If you aren't scared to steal good plug-ins (and don't feel bad, i mean I feel bad but i do it anyway) get your hands on a Waves L1+ ultramaximizer. It's pretty much used on the master fader of every track ever made (i exaggerate, but it's a great plug.)

Keep it up man, more layers, more volume and you'll be set. And also remember the plugs don't make the track. you do!

Adam

Darkness_Hero: Thanks dude. I'm not sure what genre it would fall into. Main inspirations for this were Yahel, Black & White, Airbase and DT8 (guess thats where the cheese comes into it... LoL) Consider it an experiment in merging psy and uplifting.

DJFreaq: Yeah, kick is getting beefed up with some serious bottom end. Hard for me to let go of that flat kick, but its not working. I dig basslines too. They can really be the best part of a track imho.

Synths I've used: Vanguard for most of the leads, Synth 1 for bass, Superwave P8 mainly for effects and sweeps. Excessive use of VST gate fx too.



Going to try and master this bitch down over the weekend. Been making a lot of changes to the structure and leads too but am getting close to the final mixdown. Thanks for feedback everyone.

Hey,

Just updated the link to Airburst. I acted on a lot of the previous comments, so thanks to everyone who posted previously. I think its sounding much more tech trance now but still has some very melodic and funky elements. Overall, I'm pretty happy with the progress I've made on this one.

Check it out and leave your feedback.

Thanks guys =)



Axolotyl - Airburst

Hey Axo,

I can see you greatly improved mastering. I think its already much better now. Though the mid-area is still a bit weak compared to the percussion. The new techy "wah-wah" synths in the background work really well, I love them. The new layering is lightyears better. Sweet!
Maybe you should try backing your stuff up with a pad. And turn up all the mid-area stuff so that we can enjoy the cool layers of melody even more. Other than that, both mastering- and arrangement-wise, great improvements. You're on your way!

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Originally posted by Axolotyl Hey, Just updated the link to Airburst. I acted on a lot of the previous comments, so thanks to everyone who posted previously. I think its sounding much more tech trance now but still has some very melodic and funky elements. Overall, I'm pretty happy with the progress I've made on this one. Check it out and leave your feedback. Thanks guys =) Axolotyl - Airburst

I love the lead rhythm of this tune. It's freaken catchy.

Excellent flow to the tune. The highs are still dominating; you
need more midrange. This tune is awesome & needs to be complimented with some mids & a deep/full bass.

As Cybernetica said, the mastering is excellent. I can't fault it.

I think you need ot revise the bass drum.

On the second listening I sat back & took it in. I came to the conclusion that that this track is a winner. It has got riffs that are brilliant & a progression that is very professional. All that is required are some frequencey ajustments, midrange additions & a bass drum revision & id say this is a 10/10 track.

hey axolotyl!

this genre is not really my cup of tea (so i cant say much about melodies, etc), but the production sounds clean! maybe you could add some more lows and the kick needs some more compression! sounds a bit weak, imo!

Good work on it!

// Lars

OK, I just UPDATED the link with some huge mid range boost and a punchier kick and already it sounds better. Man I think my ears must have been shot after I mastered it down, becasue I listened to it and could hear exactly what you guys were referring to.

Thanks heaps... dont know what I'd do without you guys =)

Hmmm...I just listened to the latest version. Even though it is not my pound of boost, it is catchy and the melody is still playing in my head, hehe. I found it to lack energy, and it was not that interesting...but still, it was enjoyable...reminds me of a video game for some reason. Great job there, Axo! =o)

cybernetica: Thanks mate, yeah the layering is alright in this one. Mastering and mid boost on the lastet update are fixed. Give it a listen if you have the time.


Xenocreator_PG_ : Dude, thats high praise, thanks a lot.I kinda thought you would appreciate the tounge in cheek nature of the track. Kick and mids are now revised on the latest link.


Klangzentrum: Thanks for listening dude, glad you think the mastering is up to scratch.


RiCo: Yeah melody just sound plain in your face to me seeing as I've heard it a hundred times. Cool, you think its catchy... awesome. No energy? Dang... I thought there was a lot in there, a bit too much at times. Yeah, a lot of my synths sound like video games for some reason...wierd...


Sorry to be a feedback whore, but any one else want to give it a listen? I could use all the objective views I can get. Mainly because I'm trying to decide if this is a style worth exploring with future tracks.

There's way too much high freqs. Reduce the eq boosting on those synths, or cut down volume. And those synths would also benefit from some added life. Maybe a subtle phaser, or lfo swinging the filter/amp.

Good ideas though, just needs a better production.

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