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Posted by theholyalex on May-31-2005 16:00:

Best online vinyl retailers?

Hey, I'm about to get my first set of turn tables and a mixer (very cheap beginners set, probably **this one **, any thoughts? I know they'll not exactly be professional quality, but I'm on a REALLY tight budget ) and need to get some vinyls to go with it Where are the best place to buy vinyls online (uk preferably)? I've had a look at quite a few stores, but they all seem to be missing some reasonably common ones, eg adagio for strings.
Also, what's the sort of price you pay for a vinyl?
Any thoughts?


Posted by CosmoKid on May-31-2005 16:22:

with vinyl, usually when a track goes out of stock, it doesnt come back, so dont judge a shop on what they have in stcok when you look, but rather what they get in when you look every week.


Posted by jdat on May-31-2005 16:26:

You should also expect pretty much anything to go out of stock everywhere after a while.

Regular pressings are in the 500-2000 vinyl range so they don't last forever.


In regards to retailers check the sticky threads for loads of shops.


Posted by theholyalex on May-31-2005 16:31:

Ah, I see, so each vinyl is a sorta limited edition I guess I need to get a CDDJ deck next then for the older tracks I won't be able to find Thanks for the feedback

I've been reading the stickies and I've read about certain shops shipping "whitelabels". I assume (correct me if i'm wrong) that these are the vinyls you see where the centre label is just white with the title written on. My question is why do they have these labels? Are they copies or second hand or something?

Cheers, Alex


Posted by jdat on May-31-2005 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by theholyalex
Ah, I see, so each vinyl is a sorta limited edition I guess I need to get a CDDJ deck next then for the older tracks I won't be able to find Thanks for the feedback

I've been reading the stickies and I've read about certain shops shipping "whitelabels". I assume (correct me if i'm wrong) that these are the vinyls you see where the centre label is just white with the title written on. My question is why do they have these labels? Are they copies or second hand or something?

Cheers, Alex


Whitelabels are either:
Promo records ( pre-release copies )
or Bootleg


You may also want to check the online digital retailer like beatport.com and such for mp3 stuff


Posted by Wraith on May-31-2005 17:59:

Re: Best online vinyl retailers?

quote:
Originally posted by theholyalex
Hey, I'm about to get my first set of turn tables and a mixer (very cheap beginners set, probably **this one **, any thoughts? I know they'll not exactly be professional quality, but I'm on a REALLY tight budget ) and need to get some vinyls to go with it Where are the best place to buy vinyls online (uk preferably)? I've had a look at quite a few stores, but they all seem to be missing some reasonably common ones, eg adagio for strings.
Also, what's the sort of price you pay for a vinyl?
Any thoughts?


My online record store endorsement goes to Chemical Records. Most of the time when I've been looking for something they've had it in stock. I mainly use them and Dance Grooves, but Dance Grooves always sells out earler on most stuff. As far as price it varies from vinyl to vinyl. For me it usually between $7-$15/vinyl.


Posted by Dervish on May-31-2005 18:26:

Firstly if I were you I'd phone up each place (JBSmusic, DjStore, Decks/Sapphires are good starting points) and haggle like fuck to see what you can get off at one place then phone up another and so on.

Then once you've got loads of say your a student, you get a discount in some places for this.

Also everyone bitches about belt drives, and while if it is really the only option get them, really try not to. The mixer doesn't matter so much, just try to get the best, hopefully direct drive, decks.


As for records try juno.co.uk you can listen to the week or months new tracks just by clicking a link. Then it cues all one after the other in winamp so it's easy to listen to the whole lot without having to click on a million links.


Posted by Dervish on May-31-2005 18:35:

JBS has
quote:
KAM DDX750 x2 - KAM GM25 SE - available from stock, �195.00 (package)


or probebly better (dunno about kam decks.....)

quote:
Build Your Own Beginners Package
Build Your Own package here using a selection of our budget decks and mixers.

Your package will include Numark HF-125 headphones, cartridges, slipmats, leads
2 x Stanton STR830 Deck
Numark DM1050 Mixer

Package price Add to basket
�239.00 inc. VAT


From Decks.co.uk, I say phone them ask about that haggle (and say your a student, if they ask for proof get a mate to do it or something), ask all the other places as well and just pick the cheapest.

Maybe actually just say you want the cheapest direct drive package and that you are going around everywhere so get them to do you a deal.


Posted by theholyalex on May-31-2005 18:35:

quote:
My online record store endorsement goes to Chemical Records.

I had a look at them, and they seem to be missing quite a few records, and seem expensive to me (although I'm not the most experienced with prices and such, so I may be well off). I'm pretty pleased with Above the Sky Records actually, they seem pretty cheap (although not the biggest selection, but they've got some nice tracks).

quote:
Firstly if I were you I'd phone up each place (JBSmusic, DjStore, Decks/Sapphires are good starting points) and haggle like fuck to see what you can get off at one place then phone up another and so on.

Haha! That's a really good idea, it had never occured to me, but I'll definately be doing that, cheers!

quote:
Also everyone bitches about belt drives, and while if it is really the only option get them, really try not to.

Yeah, direct drives are pretty much out of my budget unless I decide to raise the bar a bit. The thing is I don't want to get expensive decks until I know that I'll actually be able to DJ Don't want to find out I'm complete shit and don't get better after I spend �600 on a pair of 1200s

Cheers for the feedback guys, this is great!

Alex


Posted by Wraith on May-31-2005 18:55:

quote:
Originally posted by theholyalex
Yeah, direct drives are pretty much out of my budget unless I decide to raise the bar a bit. The thing is I don't want to get expensive decks until I know that I'll actually be able to DJ Don't want to find out I'm complete shit and don't get better after I spend �600 on a pair of 1200s


You don't have to buy 1200's to get direct drive decks. I would strongly encourage you to get direct drive at all costs. It will make your mixing experience much more enjoyable.


Posted by theholyalex on May-31-2005 19:30:

Heh, yeah I was just using 1200s as an example.

Although, I've been reading up and have decided to get direct drive decks anyway, might as well spend a little more, so i'm going to go for these decks I think.

One thing: A quartz lock means that it wont "click" at 0% pitch, but you can easily reset to 0% if you want, yes? I've looked it up, just want to make sure I understood right.

Cheers, Alex


Posted by Dervish on May-31-2005 19:35:

Nah not really a deck with quartz lock is a different thing than a "click" at 0.

Quartz lock is a method whereby when it's set the deck should default no matter what the postion to 0 pitch.

You possibly knew that, but they are different things (my decks have lock and a "click").


Posted by theholyalex on May-31-2005 20:18:

Ah, I see, thanks. Does the dip at 0 not get irritating? I'd have figured that was one of the things I've got to make sure the decks I get *dont* have, or maybe I've got the wrong idea?


Posted by CosmoKid on May-31-2005 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by theholyalex
Ah, I see, thanks. Does the dip at 0 not get irritating? I'd have figured that was one of the things I've got to make sure the decks I get *dont* have, or maybe I've got the wrong idea?


its not a big deal. and honestly, if you are thinking about buying belt drive decks, dont worry about pitch reset.


Posted by Abhay on Jun-01-2005 15:43:

YEah,

My friends tell me Belt Driven is evil...

I don't knwo why but... I use laptop...

Actually...

I think it's better that people wait up and save, to buy durable goods.... In the end that's the most important. WHat features it has isn't as big a deal, because newer adn cooler stuff is always coming out. Just as long as the set has what you want, that's what's important...

With the $1000 i paid for my laptop, i could've had an entire set... A shti one, but not TOOO BAD either (from my miniscule knowledge base)....

I can stil use the laptop to practice with, which is what's most important... but I"m happy to wait and buy my stuff a bit by bit...

I also prioritise... Seeing as i have laptop, i'm not going to place much priorrity on spending on my Turntables... just want them tehre so i can play vinyl whenever i want... THe mixer wil have to be very important.... proably the most important part, so i'm willing to spend like 700-800 masx, though i'll prefer somethign at 400 mark... dunno if that's a stupid thing to say... but i'm willing to wait...


Posted by Dervish on Jun-01-2005 16:22:

You can pull a ketihos (sp) and come on and show off pcs of your brand new gear thats better than all ours.


Posted by Wraith on Jun-01-2005 16:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
You can pull a ketihos (sp) and come on and show off pcs of your brand new gear thats better than all ours.


He he, yea, nothing like saving up mass amounts of money for your first set-up so you can put everyone elses to shame. Part of me still hates hime for that set-up.


Posted by theholyalex on Jun-01-2005 17:45:

Lol, well I ended up buying some direct drive turntables and feel better for it.

I just wasn't prepared to spend too much money on my first set up in case it doesn't work out. Especially since I've been spending way too much money lately.

Arriving tommorow, I'll be pissed if my vinyls dont arrive tomorrow too


Posted by IntegraR0064 on Jun-01-2005 17:50:

quote:
Originally posted by theholyalex
Lol, well I ended up buying some direct drive turntables and feel better for it.

I just wasn't prepared to spend too much money on my first set up in case it doesn't work out. Especially since I've been spending way too much money lately.

Arriving tommorow, I'll be pissed if my vinyls dont arrive tomorrow too


Good idea. The problem with belt drive is that the pitch wavers, and the torque on the platter sucks. Thereby making mixing well impossible, thereby making you think you suck.


Posted by Dervish on Jun-01-2005 17:52:

What did you get in the end? Where'd you get it and for how much (did haggling work?)?


Posted by theholyalex on Jun-01-2005 18:01:

Got it from djstore.co.uk, haggling didn't work, no, but it was only �195 so it's not too bad. I got this kit in the end, these decks seem to get reasonable reviews for the price range, so I'm happy. Shipped today Can't wait.

I'm *supposed* to be revising at the moment


Posted by Dervish on Jun-01-2005 18:03:

Me too

Djstore is based in Aberdeen....... tight bastards there like. (used to live there and all my family is from there)


Posted by theholyalex on Jun-01-2005 18:06:

haha, well I actually tried a few places, and they all just gave the standard "We don't haggle but if you can find a lower price, we'll match it" speech Bastards!



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