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Posted by Abhay on May-31-2005 16:12:

Smiley DJ Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

I have to say,

Tiesto get's bashed a fair bit, for what a lot of peopl consider to be lack of skills in live mixing. I admit, even I've heard my share of trainwrecks. But then again, I've heard trainwrecks from other artists too, like NuNrg etc. as well....


I just wanted to remind everyone, that Magik V, Magik 6, and Magik 7, were all recorded in front of a live audience.

In essence, Tiesto mixed well enough, to put his work straight onto CD. THat's not easy... When your gonna record a set, to slap onto a CD, u really have to prepared, and aware that you can't fuck up...


I just thought I'd mention that. Love to know your opinions, because I didn't find much bad mixing in any of thos CDs.


Posted by iammesol on May-31-2005 16:14:

this thread is suicide

but yes, i agree, he gets bashed way too much. All you Ti�$tor 'tards can leave now


Posted by Abhay on May-31-2005 16:16:

quote:
Originally posted by iammesol
this thread is suicide


I know....

**(curls up into the feotal position, adn covers head with hands, and bends knees tightly onto chest, in preparation for bashing by TA members) ***


Posted by JakeC on May-31-2005 16:19:

he certainly didnt fuck up or even have a bad mix whn i saw him.


Posted by gd_nimrod on May-31-2005 16:19:

quote:
**(curls up into the feotal position, adn covers head with hands, and bends knees tightly onto chest, in preparation for bashing by TA members) ***


I reckon the 5th or 6th posted will bring that.

As for me, when i saw him live last december, he didnt do anything special for me, but thats cause of his selection of tracks...didnt really enjoy how much proggy stuff he played.


Posted by Konijn on May-31-2005 16:21:

magik 5 was a studio session


Posted by Abhay on May-31-2005 16:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Konijn
magik 5 was a studio session


was it???

wasn't it live @ innercity???!?!?!??!?!?!

Magik 6 was in amsterdamn, and Magik 7 was in LA


Posted by sandstorm03 on May-31-2005 16:23:

Re: Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
I have to say,

Tiesto get's bashed a fair bit, for what a lot of peopl consider to be lack of skills in live mixing. I admit, even I've heard my share of trainwrecks. But then again, I've heard trainwrecks from other artists too, like NuNrg etc. as well....


I just wanted to remind everyone, that Magik V, Magik 6, and Magik 7, were all recorded in front of a live audience.

In essence, Tiesto mixed well enough, to put his work straight onto CD. THat's not easy... When your gonna record a set, to slap onto a CD, u really have to prepared, and aware that you can't fuck up...


I just thought I'd mention that. Love to know your opinions, because I didn't find much bad mixing in any of thos CDs.


first nu nrg arnt djs...

i think they have 1 recorded mix...
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and the whole live recording thing could be easily questioned. Even if it was it was still probably "mastered" to hell... I gotta look @ the cd case again.
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Listen to ISOS 4 if you want a prime example...

6. Coca & Villa - La Noche
7. Tilt - Twelve (Dousk Mix)

that mix i think. Listen to it, its definately off...

and the cd isnt programmed well at all...


The fact is that Tiesto is a Pro DJ. And yes i listen to him and like him. But yes he isn't that good.


Can you pick out 1 mix that he has ever done, that has really suprised you, that it was soo good? If you can do that please post a sample.


Posted by Abhay on May-31-2005 16:28:

Re: Re: Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
first nu nrg arnt djs...

i think they have 1 recorded mix...
-----


OK,

Nu-NRG Live @ SYDNEY (played in a Gas Night Club), is the one with the trainwreck in it.... another set I've heard is Nu-NRG Live @ Orgasmotrn (available on TA)

ISOS 4, I'll ahve to listen to those tracks to see what u mean, get back to u when I do....


Posted by PlasticSoul on May-31-2005 16:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
was it???

wasn't it live @ innercity???!?!?!??!?!?!

Magik 6 was in amsterdamn, and Magik 7 was in LA


Tiesto - Live at innercity 99, its an album, but not from the magik series...
magik 5 is studio.


Posted by Abhay on May-31-2005 16:30:

quote:
Originally posted by PlasticSoul
Tiesto - Live at innercity 99, its an album, but not from the magik series...
magik 5 is studio.


OOh..... OK...



my Bad I guess.. it's been a while scince i've listened to any of them.

but still, Live @ innercity, is still a good example I think...


Posted by sandstorm03 on May-31-2005 16:31:

Re: Re: Re: Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
OK,

Nu-NRG Live @ SYDNEY (played in a Gas Night Club), is the one with the trainwreck in it.... another set I've heard is Nu-NRG Live @ Orgasmotrn (available on TA)


thoes were live acts, the tracks were pre-mixed on a computer im prety sure...


anyway why do you think they don't dj


not to mention that their stuff is prety hard to mix as well, cause of basically no intro... even paul has trouble doing it at times..


Posted by Abhay on May-31-2005 16:37:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
thoes were live acts, the tracks were pre-mixed on a computer im prety sure...


anyway why do you think they don't dj


not to mention that their stuff is prety hard to mix as well, cause of basically no intro... even paul has trouble doing it at times..


OK, well, I don't think they were pre-mixed,

I don't knwo whether it's intentional, but ur confuseing what u said, with wat i said...


Posted by Abhay on May-31-2005 16:37:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
thoes were live acts, the tracks were pre-mixed on a computer im prety sure...


anyway why do you think they don't dj


not to mention that their stuff is prety hard to mix as well, cause of basically no intro... even paul has trouble doing it at times..


OK, well, I'm I don't THINK they were pre-mixed,

I don't knwo whether it's intentional, but ur confuseing what u said, with wat i said...


Posted by sandstorm03 on May-31-2005 16:39:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
OK, well, I don't think they were pre-mixed,

I don't knwo whether it's intentional, but ur confuseing what u said, with wat i said...


when they have a live set, they play their stuff off their labtop, and add extra synths & midis on top of it. (im prety sure obviousely i dont know exactly what they do, but ive seen them twice, and think i understand it alright...)

They don't mix with vinyl/cds, i dont even think they have a mixer up there...


Posted by jonze on May-31-2005 16:39:

his last performance in chicago has gone down as one of the most embarassing performances ever. i wasnt there but ill see if i can find the review thread of it. i guess he was completely drunk in the booth, talked to a bunch of people in the booth, and slacked off big time when it came to mixing.


Posted by Abhay on May-31-2005 16:40:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
when they have a live set, they play their stuff off their labtop, and add extra synths & midis on top of it. (im prety sure obviousely i dont know exactly what they do, but ive seen them twice, and think i understand it alright...)

They don't mix with vinyl/cds, i dont even think they have a mixer up there...


THEY RECORDED A TRAINWRECK????!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

AND THEN PLAYED IT?!?!??!?!?!!

WTF?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!??!


Posted by sandstorm03 on May-31-2005 16:42:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
THEY RECORDED A TRAINWRECK????!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

AND THEN PLAYED IT?!?!??!?!?!!

WTF?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!??!



well i think they use traktor for their sets...

so probably, since traktor isnt that great to beatmatch with...


Posted by Abhay on May-31-2005 16:45:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
well i think they use traktor for their sets...

so probably, since traktor isnt that great to beatmatch with...


OK,

chances are, they just play and mix Mp3s, if u didn't see Cds/Vinyl...


OK, and if they PREMIX... they don't need Traktor...

infact if they're USING a SOFTWARE DJ program, it's STILL mixing....


Posted by sandstorm03 on May-31-2005 16:47:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
OK,

chances are, they just play and mix Mp3s, if u didn't see Cds/Vinyl...


OK, and if they PREMIX... they don't need Traktor...

infact if they're USING a SOFTWARE DJ program, it's STILL mixing....


zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

there is no mixer... it is not mixing... they press a play button on their mac...

ever see them using head phones?? i think not


Posted by sandstorm03 on May-31-2005 16:53:




didnt even need their labtop there...


Posted by Gauss on May-31-2005 16:57:

Re: Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
I have to say,

Tiesto get's bashed a fair bit, for what a lot of peopl consider to be lack of skills in live mixing. I admit, even I've heard my share of trainwrecks. But then again, I've heard trainwrecks from other artists too, like NuNrg etc. as well....


I just wanted to remind everyone, that Magik V, Magik 6, and Magik 7, were all recorded in front of a live audience.

In essence, Tiesto mixed well enough, to put his work straight onto CD. THat's not easy... When your gonna record a set, to slap onto a CD, u really have to prepared, and aware that you can't fuck up...


I just thought I'd mention that. Love to know your opinions, because I didn't find much bad mixing in any of thos CDs.


Just fucking drop it already.


Posted by Abhay on May-31-2005 17:03:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

there is no mixer... it is not mixing... they press a play button on their mac...

ever see them using head phones?? i think not



Posted by JasonThomas on May-31-2005 17:10:

I've heard Paul van Dyk train wrek more than Tiesto, even with the vinyl scratch, but he doesn't seem to get as much shit. Granted Paul takes a few more risks when mixing, but still you think all the n00bs would complain just as much.

The fact is Tiesto has recorded/broadcasted more sets than probably every other dj out there. More chances to fuck up mean more fuck ups, and so people hear it and DEFINATELY wanna complain about it.

That and he's an easy target, no.1 target to be specific.

Tiesto has been deejaying for 2 decades and shouldn't need to prove himself anymore...




That said, I did notice a few subtle flaws in the mixing for ISOS4. Subtle as they were, and I am pretty picky about that since I've been recording sets of my own, but I'd expect better from a studio release cd. ISOS4 non the less.


P.S. I've seen NuNRG Live at FreakNight in Seatle and they used vinyls/cdjs and didn't mess up once. Track selection was a bit subpar IMO, but mixing was good.


Posted by High on PSI on May-31-2005 17:13:

Re: Re: Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03

Can you pick out 1 mix that he has ever done, that has really suprised you, that it was soo good? If you can do that please post a sample.


I remember seeing Tiesto in Concert (the first one), the mix into Naranja was pretty sik.

i dont have the dvd or a sample though, sorry. Maybe someone that has it can help me out.

If i base it based soley on the recorded tiesto sets ive heard, tiesto isnt the greatest mixer out there. However, every time ive seen him live, he's been pretty good at mixing.


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