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Posted by sLiCk_NiCk on May-31-2005 18:09:

Music Courses

I was wondering if anyone knows of any music production courses.

I dont wanna go out and spend thousands maybe just a short course for a few weeks/months that will teach me some basics about the producing side of things. I know i can teach myself but i dont want to take any shortcuts, id rather learn from scratch.

If anyone has done one of these courses some feedback would be good.

Cheers


Posted by Aesthetic on May-31-2005 23:13:

i was never under the impression there were any 'how to produce music' courses.. there are sound engineering courses i do know that.. if there were any 'production' courses, i suppose they would be lame and an attempt for some local hero to swipe money off innocent people teaching them stuff they could teach themselves.. especially considering you want it to be over in a couple of weeks/months.


Posted by JayKuE on May-31-2005 23:50:

my sentiments are aligned with dave's though not as crudely haha

having browsed around, there are two private institutes that exist.

JMC Academy in South Melbourne (Bank St) and SAE down Normanby Road at South Yarra. Both offer Audio Engineering, however, the courses cost an arm and a leg. I took a tour of SAE and jesus, the facilities are impressive, however, at something like $12,000 for a 9 month full time course - I came to the conclusion, that these institutes were taking advantage of those who wanted to immerse in an already overpopulated industry of more supply than demand. Moreover, if you're only interested in music production of the electronic variety, you definitely won't make use of all the facilities that these places have to offer. A waste of moolah really.

SAE though, have just released a relatively new course, that's still undergoing syllabus changes. It is the Electronic Music Production course. 6 months part time with a cost of ~$3500. This is probably
more tailored to what you want. I glanced at the syllabus while on the tour, and from what I remember it looked really appealing. From basic track construction, to sound design, to considering sound acoustics for your set up. but fuck $4000 is a lot of money. You can buy a mac, and a copy of logic 7 for less than that at an educational pricing. hehe.

Others?

Jono Fernandez provides one-on-one tuition for logic at $200 per hour I think Revolver also provide some short courses. Ivan Gough and Mark Highland do one off courses every now and then. For other Audio Engineering Certificate IV courses at a more rational cost, check out Box Hill Tafe or RMIT.

It's probably more worth while sitting down and having a look at the resources available on the Internet. Forums sites, resources from other producers etc. All the information is to avail. It's just a question of how much effort you'd like to put in, or how much you would like to be spoon fed

Good luck with whatever you decide to do

edit: one more thing. most people i've been acquainted with who've enrolled in SAE have said that you're better off saving for equipment and suscribing to some good music resources/magazines. hope that helps


Posted by Heidi_Fleiss on May-31-2005 23:56:

Nicko, Victoria University offers the BEST in Music Business & Production/Engineering courses...

Msg Norty00 on clubvibes..He is in the production one right now..I'm pretty sure they have short courses too...


Posted by Joshva on Jun-01-2005 00:05:

My girlfriend goes to SAE to do music production there. Check out their website or give SAE college a ring.


Posted by Serp on Jun-01-2005 01:58:

cheaper option? buy a book or even cheaper.. the internet!


Posted by Virginia_L on Jun-01-2005 02:32:

I'm doin the SAE course in July.. Cant wait!!


Posted by Axolotyl on Jun-01-2005 02:54:

quote:
Originally posted by serp
cheaper option? buy a book or even cheaper.. the internet!



Indeed. Or have a look at some of the training DVDs out there. I cant handle reading large bodies of text myself, watching someone demonstrate it is so much easier.


Posted by sLiCk_NiCk on Jun-01-2005 03:07:

ive been reading up on SAE. seems very good but the price is just too much. I dont like reading huge slabs of text myself, might check out the shorter course that is available. jono fernandez must be raking it in at that price!

virginia which course are you doing at SAE 9 month or 6 month course?


Posted by gumble on Jun-01-2005 03:22:

i did sound production.

its great if u want to be a roadie the rest of your life.


thats why i quit and went to uni.


Posted by Joshva on Jun-01-2005 04:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Virginia_L
I'm doin the SAE course in July.. Cant wait!!


In Sydney or Melbourne? If your in Sydney you'll be doing it with my girl.


Posted by Light The Fuse on Jun-01-2005 04:23:

quote:
Originally posted by gumble
i did sound production.

its great if u want to be a roadie the rest of your life.


thats why i quit and went to uni.


yeah i know a coupla guys whove done some of these courses...they'll teach you heaps about microphones.

im usre there are some good courses around, but yer, the best way seems to be to teach yourself + internet + books + mates.

just get some more piano lessons imho.

although im sure jono's 200 dollar an hour course would be good (if you have a spare 400 dollars a week)


Posted by Virginia_L on Jun-01-2005 04:28:

quote:
Originally posted by sLiCk_NiCk
virginia which course are you doing at SAE 9 month or 6 month course?


I think the 6 mths cousre.. the one that cost around $3000

and Josh.. In Melb!

But Nick i reckon you do the DMC one with Jono!


Posted by sLiCk_NiCk on Jun-01-2005 04:33:

as long as your whilling to fun it


Posted by Axolotyl on Jun-01-2005 04:53:

check this one... 3 days in Pro Tools for $1800

Value!!

http://www.shortcourses.uts.edu.au/...sc_code=PRO210M


Posted by j�c� on Jun-01-2005 05:04:

I completed the advanced diploma in audio engineering at JMC last year. It has helped my production work immensly! Although it is pretty much all acoustic music based, the fundamentals in getting that sound you want are exactly the same in electronic music.

I wouldn't do this course just to learn how to produce electronic music - coz it wont teach you. That short electronic music production course at SAE looks pretty decent though, id consider that!


Posted by Aesthetic on Jun-01-2005 05:06:

yeah thats what i was saying adam.. while the courses will teach people alot about mastering and mixing, producing music is a whole other ball game.


Posted by j�c� on Jun-01-2005 05:09:

yeah! nobody can teach you creativity


Posted by waXology on Jun-01-2005 05:29:

yeah i looked at SAE a few years back, wesome setup they have there.

im considering the electronic producers course. anyone got the price on that one?


Posted by narcism on Jun-01-2005 06:29:

quote:
Originally posted by j�c�
yeah! nobody can teach you creativity


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