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Posted by rongerabbit on May-31-2005 18:49:

Armand Van Helden @ Redlite

hmmm, well this guy can mix anything and will absolutely destroy red-lite, too bad it is red-lite though.

Hope to see some of you come out for this.

I know Malek wanted to see him.
It was one of the best nights at Aria too apparently last time he came, which was ages ago.

Peace John

PS: July 16th


Posted by malek on May-31-2005 18:53:

I'm there.


Posted by antz66 on May-31-2005 19:02:

shit y red lite though no1 downtown could have booked him


Posted by malek on May-31-2005 19:35:

quote:
Originally posted by antz66
shit y red lite though no1 downtown could have booked him


no one has the balls


Posted by morsy on May-31-2005 20:38:

im in


Posted by FunKenLouis on May-31-2005 21:06:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
no one has the balls


no one wants to loose money

nuance


Posted by malek on May-31-2005 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by FunKenLouis
no one wants to loose money

nuance


thats what I said, no balls to take any risks.

no nuance


Posted by FunKenLouis on May-31-2005 21:25:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
thats what I said, no balls to take any risks.

no nuance



taking a risk means havin a chance to make money

knowing theres no way you make cash is being stupid

2ieme nuance


Posted by malek on May-31-2005 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by FunKenLouis
taking a risk means havin a chance to make money

knowing theres no way you make cash is being stupid

2ieme nuance


charging ridiculous amounts of money at the door is a sure (and stupid) way to loose money.

It explains why the first time he came was a miss.

45$-55$ and over for him at the door is crazy.

same thing for Jeff Mills, how much was it at the door 45$+ ?

They're huge djs but unknown by the young crowds, charging alot won't attract the young crowd (main clients of afterhours).

anyhow, we had another great example of my theory, 88$ at the door, empty hiphop room at swirl, hiphop crowd is young, HUUUUUGE money lost ( no need to say how much ).


Posted by FunKenLouis on May-31-2005 21:52:

tu sais pas dekoi tu parles

you have NO IDEA of how many people you have to bring in PAYING FULL PRICE... paying your staff... paying yours bills... everyhting... to make a little bit of money

thank you for STFU

lol


Posted by Marcus007 on May-31-2005 22:50:

Since I know you're in the loop, Louis, tell me something: which dj's can ARIA be sure to make a profit off? Even if it's a very marginal profit. Oh yeah, the hip hop room at SWIRL wasn't empty, it was the furthest thing from empty when I left at 930 AM. It's nothing in comparison to the trance room but nonetheless it wasn't EMPTY.


Posted by malek on May-31-2005 22:53:

ok man si tu veux pas discuter dis moi pas que "je sais pas de quoi je parles".

ca c'est la phrase classique pour echapper aux dicussions.

ton staff et les bills c'est des frais recurents, faut que tu les payes que ton club soit vide ou pas, que tu fasses un party ou pas. Je vois pas ce que ca fait dans une discussion sur les djs a profits.


anyways man, buisness 101.


Posted by malek on May-31-2005 22:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus007
Since I know you're in the loop, Louis, tell me something: which dj's can ARIA be sure to make a profit off? Even if it's a very marginal profit. Oh yeah, the hip hop room at SWIRL wasn't empty, it was the furthest thing from empty when I left at 930 AM. It's nothing in comparison to the trance room but nonetheless it wasn't EMPTY.



empty as in not full enough to cover expenses.


Posted by Marcus007 on May-31-2005 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
empty as in not full enough to cover expenses.


ahhhh i see, toucher.


Posted by Epicurus on May-31-2005 23:27:

I'm there. Deep Dish on the 15th, Armand on hte 16th. I'm gonna have to change my Montreal weekend in July from the 8th to the following weekend


Posted by malek on May-31-2005 23:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Epicurus
I'm there. Deep Dish on the 15th, Armand on hte 16th. I'm gonna have to change my Montreal weekend in July from the 8th to the following weekend


thats right


Posted by KrinKer on Jun-01-2005 01:59:

I know when is gonna be my next trip to montreal !!

KrinKer


Posted by malek on Jun-01-2005 02:34:

quote:
Originally posted by KrinKer
I know when is gonna be my next trip to montreal !!

KrinKer


you mean the one after Sasha's weekend?


Posted by Biggy on Jun-01-2005 03:08:

Malek, we got the balls to have him at Aria 2 years ago and he didn't bring people. No matter what is the door price, people don't care anymore for Armand Van Helden in Montreal. When the guy charge over 15 000$usd, how you want to have a price door of 25-30$?

Other expenses are hotels (2-3 expensives rooms = 1000$), restaurants (300-400$), visa (200$), ground transportation (200$) etc...

All this plus his 15 000$ fee is way too much for the amount of people the guy can bring. Also, even if you have a sponsor that night, why don't put the sponsor money on a dj that bring way more people like Ferry, Armin, Ti�sto, PVD, Sven, Carl Cox, Deep Dish, Sasha, Infected etc... Red-Lite bring him because they can't bring as much dj's as Aria!

P.S. When I say 15 000$ for Armand, it was more expensive than that 2 years ago.


Posted by fastmp3 on Jun-01-2005 03:14:

his paycheck is ridiculous


Posted by Tag on Jun-01-2005 03:15:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
charging ridiculous amounts of money at the door is a sure (and stupid) way to loose money.

It explains why the first time he came was a miss.

45$-55$ and over for him at the door is crazy.

same thing for Jeff Mills, how much was it at the door 45$+ ?

They're huge djs but unknown by the young crowds, charging alot won't attract the young crowd (main clients of afterhours).

anyhow, we had another great example of my theory, 88$ at the door, empty hiphop room at swirl, hiphop crowd is young, HUUUUUGE money lost ( no need to say how much ).


I'de be more than happy to shell out 55+$ to see Helden, if he was at ARIA. BTW where is YOJI!!!!!!!!!! and YAHEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by malek on Jun-01-2005 03:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Biggy
Malek, we got the balls to have him at Aria 2 years ago and he didn't bring people. No matter what is the door price, people don't care anymore for Armand Van Helden in Montreal. When the guy charge over 15 000$usd, how you want to have a price door of 25-30$?

Other expenses are hotels (2-3 expensives rooms = 1000$), restaurants (300-400$), visa (200$), ground transportation (200$) etc...

All this plus his 15 000$ fee is way too much for the amount of people the guy can bring. Also, even if you have a sponsor that night, why don't put the sponsor money on a dj that bring way more people like Ferry, Armin, Ti�sto, PVD, Sven, Carl Cox, Deep Dish, Sasha, Infected etc... Red-Lite bring him because they can't bring as much dj's as Aria!

P.S. When I say 15 000$ for Armand, it was more expensive than that 2 years ago.


I know he was more expensive back then, no need to post prices here.

The thing is, if you knew he wouldn't bring that many people back then, why charge that much at the door?? wouldn't a cheaper price incite people not to skip the party and go to some other afterhours? Wasn't the price 35-40$ on early presale(thats what I paid) and 50$ at the door?

If the dj isn't Tiesto or PVD, there's no way in hell to charge more than 45$ at the door without loosing people.

The worst that could happen if you charge less is to break even or coup a small loss, but what you could get in return is satisfied people that would tell their friends about him the next time he comes over plus the prestige of having someone as big as Armand Van Helden in your club.


Posted by malek on Jun-01-2005 03:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Tag
I'de be more than happy to shell out 55+$ to see Helden, if he was at ARIA. BTW where is YOJI!!!!!!!!!! and YAHEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


you are one person, the club would need 799 other people to make some decent profit


Posted by Tag on Jun-01-2005 03:57:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
you are one person, the club would need 799 other people to make some decent profit


I know, just a random thought has anyone gone to the hip hop room at aria?


Posted by malek on Jun-01-2005 04:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Tag
I know, just a random thought has anyone gone to the hip hop room at aria?


yeah what about it ?


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