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Posted by Iceblue28 on Jun-01-2005 03:31:

NYC, LA or Miami? Montréal???

What city is the trance capital of USA/North America?

After receiving quite a few responses to this question a few weeks back, NYC, LA, Miami and Montréal were the principal cities mentioned. As I am quite aware that trance music is still very underground in the North America, I knew there would not be an official capital, but perhaps an unofficial capital in the underground world of trance throughout North America.

Why do I care? 'cause I'd like to visit a city where the trance scene has some punch. New York City's scene never impressed me in the least. Been there several times...never to return.

Not surprised to hear Miami mentioned. Surprised to hear Montréal mentioned. Very, very surprised to hear LA mentioned.

As trance is so underground in North America, it becomes such a challenge to immerse oneself in the culture. The trance scenes that do exist in North America are conspicuously located in major cities. The scenes are never vibrant and very small to say the least. I should just move overseas. Then the struggle will be over. North America will never quench my thirst for trance.

I reckon Australia has a better trance scene than all of North America. I lived in Sydney for two years, and it wasn't all that bad in way of its trance scene. At the time, I thought it was not up to par. Then, I returned home and realized how unpopular and how disliked trance music is in North America.

I'm thirsty for a glass of trance. I want to get drunk on trance.
I want to swim in trance. Show me the way....................


Posted by miamitranceman on Jun-01-2005 03:33:

Miami


Posted by gd_nimrod on Jun-01-2005 03:37:

Though id LIKE to say Montreal, its not really a home for trance. Sure, we have great trance acts all the time, but theres no EDM radio station, most ppl here are wiggers and listen to rap, and not to mention stupid FRENCH rap (arrrgh).


We DO however love funky house music

Id say its Miami...just cause of party 93.1 or whatever its called...


Posted by Aquarian on Jun-01-2005 05:11:

Yeah, montreal is a party town, but it's big on house. I've never been to either of the other cities so I really can't say.


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Jun-01-2005 05:23:

Well we lost Party 931..

But I'd have to say Miami only cuz I live here but I have no idea about everywhere else.

I just think it depends when you go. Because house seems to be the 'in' thing now. Edgar V has a residency on Saturday afterhours.. George Acosta spins on wednesdays somewhere [ even if he is lame ] and a local TA spins trance at a club in SoBe every tuesday.


Posted by flavdave on Jun-01-2005 05:24:

There's nothing "underground" about trance in America.


Posted by Gjorgji on Jun-01-2005 11:23:

NYC is pretty good.. but all of these cities compared to some very small europian cities are nothing. Why? Trance is not so big in USA.. that it the american TAs next mission.. to kill the rap and replace it with trance


Posted by jdat on Jun-01-2005 11:47:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
There's nothing "underground" about trance in America.


That is so true.

On regular nights in clubs it is true you will be most likely to find house or rap.


But headliner speaking there is nothing underground about trance that is fact. Trance headliners tend to fill up clubs the most like crazy crowded everyone and their mother comes out cause they think it's the coolness.

Trance city there is truly none in the world.

For the longest party go to Montreal
For the biggest parties go to New York
For the most parties go to Miami
For the most well organized parties go to LA.
For the earliest ending parties go to Boston.
For the most squeezed parties go to DC.


End of discussion.


Posted by Sunquest on Jun-01-2005 11:50:

That's not cool, you didn't mention Toronto!!!

I think Toronto is growing fast, we get a TOP DJ here every 2 weeks and I'm talking about Tiesto, Armin, Ferry, Rank 1, Airwave, MIKE, .... the list goes on, so I'd say Toronto is up there, but from what I hear Miami is prolly first place, Toronto is second


Posted by jdat on Jun-01-2005 12:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunquest
That's not cool, you didn't mention Toronto!!!

I think Toronto is growing fast, we get a TOP DJ here every 2 weeks and I'm talking about Tiesto, Armin, Ferry, Rank 1, Airwave, MIKE, .... the list goes on, so I'd say Toronto is up there, but from what I hear Miami is prolly first place, Toronto is second



Yeah my bad Toronto is also up there with the rest.

For the most ______________ ( fill in the blank ) go to Toronto


Posted by DOOMBOT on Jun-01-2005 12:46:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
But headliner speaking there is nothing underground about trance that is fact. Trance headliners tend to fill up clubs the most like crazy crowded everyone and their mother comes out cause they think it's the coolness.

Or, maybe because finally a decent trance dj has come to town and all the TA's get to come out of their holes? Why always think negative? I don't understand...


Posted by jdat on Jun-01-2005 12:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Or, maybe because finally a decent trance dj has come to town and all the TA's get to come out of their holes? Why always think negative? I don't understand...


I'm just stating the facts. That is all.

To see Oakey fill a place to overcapacity when 95% of the people in the place have no clue what he is or represents but just know he's cool or something goes to show that there is most certainly a commercial aspect to it.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Jun-01-2005 13:01:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
I'm just stating the facts. That is all.

To see Oakey fill a place to overcapacity when 95% of the people in the place have no clue what he is or represents but just know he's cool or something goes to show that there is most certainly a commercial aspect to it.


Your source of fact is?


Posted by jdat on Jun-01-2005 13:08:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Your source of fact is?


Are you not aware of things my friend?

The main EDM tours of djs have mostly been for TRANCE djs.
Like Ferry with Playstation2 Pvd with Motorola etc etc

It's also mostly trance djs that play in non club oriented settings ( concert halls ) like House Of Blues which regurlaly host Trance oriented events across the country ( but they on occasion do have non trance djs ).


Bring a trance headliner and all the n00bs and the clueless come out of the woodwork. I have seen it numerous times when comparing the attendance of trance versus other edm type events.


You go and tell me how it's NOT commercial!?


Posted by DOOMBOT on Jun-01-2005 13:18:

Can't say I agree. I have gone to clubs where major djs have spun and started conversations with tons of people there. All seem to know who they were watching that night. Sure, some don't but I wouldn't consider it a huge majority over those who do.


Posted by jdat on Jun-01-2005 13:46:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Can't say I agree. I have gone to clubs where major djs have spun and started conversations with tons of people there. All seem to know who they were watching that night. Sure, some don't but I wouldn't consider it a huge majority over those who do.


Well in most cases they do know the name that is why they came cause they heard he/she was cool but as far as actually knowing much about the artists a lot are clueless.
I can't count the number of times I've been to some place and had some people ask me who's that playing right now? It could be the opener and you'd tell them it's the headliner and they'd fall for it cause they have absolutely no idea.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Jun-01-2005 13:52:

Okay, but you make that seem as if it is a bad thing. You saying only trance leets like yourself should be the only people allowed to go to a club and enjoy a dj?


Posted by jdat on Jun-01-2005 13:59:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Okay, but you make that seem as if it is a bad thing. You saying only trance leets like yourself should be the only people allowed to go to a club and enjoy a dj?



I never said that. I was simply stating facts as to prove that trance in the US is COMMERCIAL. Learn how to read.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Jun-01-2005 14:06:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
I never said that. I was simply stating facts as to prove that trance in the US is COMMERCIAL. Learn how to read.

Stop being so bitter in your posts and maybe I will read more carefully.


Posted by jdat on Jun-01-2005 14:13:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Stop being so bitter in your posts and maybe I will read more carefully.


I was not bitter I made things clear from the start but due to your ignorance you preferred to walk past the details.

Had I been truly bitter I would have said the whole scene sucked.

But no I didn't, I actually gave the positive points for all the major cities ( well I still left a bunch of cities aside can't put a review on all the cities ).


Posted by High on PSI on Jun-01-2005 14:16:

Toronto


Posted by DOOMBOT on Jun-01-2005 14:16:


Posted by NYCTrancefan on Jun-01-2005 14:27:

quote:
Originally posted by gd_nimrod
most ppl here are wiggers and listen to rap, and not to mention stupid FRENCH rap (arrrgh).


Made the mistake of watching some of that nonsense on Winamp once, don't even get me started on German rap, but whatever floats the boat.

I would have to say Miami, never been there but from what I have heard it is the scene in North America, "Club Space" anyone. Seems like every week a top act is there. There was a time when my good ole NYC might have been the one but those days are long gone, try as they might it won't come back.


Posted by gd_nimrod on Jun-01-2005 14:27:

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
Well we lost Party 931..



Damn what happened?


And damn you TOTA's, MTL>TO!


Posted by jdat on Jun-01-2005 14:29:

quote:
Originally posted by gd_nimrod
Damn what happened?


And damn you TOTA's, MTL>TO!


Party 931 was switched to an all rock programming due to not yielding satisfactory results with electronic music.


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