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Posted by Aesthetic on Jun-02-2005 05:13:

are dj's cover bands?

do you think dj's are like cover bands, in that, they get rich off other people's material?

discuss =)


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-02-2005 05:21:

absolutely. is also why i wonder why DJs get so much flak for playing similar tunes to each other or what they were playing 6 months ago- cover bands the world over play the same tunes, no matter where you are, and people still go off and have a good time.

however, id say its harder being a DJ in that playing to crowds is a lot more difficult. no lil rest between tunes, planned setlist etc. not that im criticising cover bands either, got a few good friends that play in them (and let me sing when im lucky )

at the end of the day, does it matter? fvcked if i wanna wait for *insert DJ name here* to tour my state so i get to hear tunes i like. im just as happy to see begic as i am nu-nrg if theyre both playing music i get into


Posted by Slade on Jun-02-2005 05:29:

Yes, but if you look @ most of the succesful dj's, they produce their own music as well.


Posted by tachyon on Jun-02-2005 05:35:

in my opinion DJs can do so much more than a cover band. if a track sucks like soups no matter how brilliant the singer/guitarist is the track will still sucks.

a brilliant DJ however can do so much more with a track. layering it up, cut it up, drop acapella over the top, etc.

to produce a set that 'progresses' using these tracks is more harder job than a cover band doing their best rendition of other's songs/tracks.




Posted by Light The Fuse on Jun-02-2005 16:49:

heheh...nup.

sound engineers, conductors, teachers....but cover bands nah, i dunt reckon.


Posted by Sly_Guy on Jun-02-2005 20:31:

DJs are gods I tell you, GODS!

We should all bow down on the dancefloor and worship their ability to place a plastic disc in the correct horizontal position on a rotating tabletop such that it makes a musical sound.


[sorry, I'm just a little sensitive, Tiesto is coming to Toronto at the end of June, which means all the posers with 5 posts are gonna be swarming our board with threads worshipping his mastery of the crossfader and every minor detail of his life. So I will be in here more often over the coming weeks to prevent the flaming of the e-tarded 'tiesto is god' fans]

*EDIT* As an example to the insuing tiesto madness, it's june 2, he's coming on june 30th, yet we already have 2 ticket threads, a thread about what clothing he's gonna wear, a poll about if he should be spinning in the booth or on a stage, and an event thread.


Posted by Aesthetic on Jun-02-2005 23:09:

i like you sly guy.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-02-2005 23:19:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveBegic
i like you sly guy, can we spoon and hate DJs together? (im the big spoon though)


fixed


Posted by Aesthetic on Jun-02-2005 23:22:

ohhh thhhtop itttttt!

nah i only start these dj debates cause i know it pisses jpl off


Posted by BinaryRefined on Jun-03-2005 01:31:

Re: are dj's cover bands?

quote:
Originally posted by DaveBegic
do you think dj's are like cover bands, in that, they get rich off other people's material?

discuss =)


yeah somewhat true.

however cover bands still need to re-create the talent of the bands by learning how to play and perform the songs. they are still creating the music on stage (altho not original material)

however, DJs just play a record, they are no re-creating that song, just re-playing it. but they do need to mix

to make things identical, a DJ would need to play a LIVE set of someones elses music, and which DJs in australia could do that?? not many


Posted by j�c� on Jun-03-2005 01:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Light The Fuse
heheh...nup.

sound engineers, conductors, teachers....but cover bands nah, i dunt reckon.


DJs are sound engineers?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-03-2005 01:46:

quote:
Originally posted by j�c�
DJs are sound engineers?


i wouldve thought that EQ work would be similar to that of the pro roadies you see at concerts working their mixers.


Posted by Aesthetic on Jun-03-2005 01:51:

heh.. i think sound engineers look more in depth into frequency ranges than "bass cut, mid cut, treble cut, and gain"... is what jace is trying to say.


Posted by gumble on Jun-03-2005 01:51:

haha, its a lot harder to EQ a room than drop the bass off a record..


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-03-2005 02:04:

hahaha. youre both spastics. i was saying the processes are *similar* as is the desired outcome: make the music sound good


Posted by j�c� on Jun-03-2005 02:16:

hehe i know what you mean, the process is similar but not really comparable - DJs dont tweek the EQ to make the record sound good, they tweek it to look cool


Posted by Philby on Jun-03-2005 12:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Sly_Guy


*EDIT* As an example to the insuing tiesto madness, it's june 2, he's coming on june 30th, yet we already have 2 ticket threads, a thread about what clothing he's gonna wear, a poll about if he should be spinning in the booth or on a stage, and an event thread.


well thats understandable, imagine if dave begic or jason midro was playing there, it would be chaos!!!


Posted by Aesthetic on Jun-04-2005 09:07:

you take that back phil, you take it back right now.

THERES NO WAY I COULD BE EVEN ON THE SAME LINE UP AS MIDRO, it would be too insulting to the great man, the myth, the robocop.


Posted by Philby on Jun-04-2005 16:49:

i said 'or'


Posted by batemanscott on Jun-04-2005 22:34:

Djing is pretty simple shit imo. It's not rocket science and you're not playing an instrument.

Having said that, there is a pretty massive difference between the good, the bad and the mind blowing.

You have to ask yourself what one does that another does'nt that separates all three.

If it were simply putting a "plastic disc in the correct horizontal position" there would be no difference between any of them.

Talk to ignorant ppl outside of the dance scene and they will laugh at all the edm producers saying "the computer does the work" and that "you dont actually play an instrument so you're not a musician" so there is no real talent.

Are they wrong? of course they are, but how funny when you dumb down any ything how simple it sounds.



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