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Posted by drewalves on Jun-02-2005 17:51:

Question Tiesto's classical influence or what?!?!?!

Tiesto - Magik Journey
Tiesto - Forever Today

does anyone know of the classical songs that he turned digital?

i was listening to public radio and i heard what seemed to be Magik Journey and i was completely confused. i wasnt able to look up the listing either. so i still dont know what song it is from, but for sure it sounded just like the main theme in Magik Journey.

so my friend the other day said the same exact thing happened to her but with Forever Today.

anyone know the original songs that Tiesto and Geert Huinink got the influence from?

i know very little about classical music. its driving me crazy.


Posted by Aiwendil on Jun-02-2005 17:56:

the way i write things is heavily influenced by an amalgam of the fantastical works of Tolkien and Jordan. tiesto now, there's your standard hack.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jun-02-2005 18:00:

Robert Jordan... if ever there was someone who fucked up a great story, it's him.

As far as I know, those tracks are unique compositions, and none of the writing credits acknowledge other writers. They might sound like other tracks, but to my knowledge they aren't direct lifts.


Posted by drewalves on Jun-02-2005 18:04:

after hearing it classical... i felt like i was betrayed.
but ofcourse music creation isnt black and white, i respect tiesto, but hopefully someone will ID it, so we can compare.


Posted by drewalves on Jun-02-2005 18:16:

and after hearing that "Forever Today" sounds like a classical song aswell i started thinking about how these two songs are so similar and together very different than his other productions.

and Geert has
"Classical Trance" album, which he remixes classic songs.


Posted by auujay on Jun-02-2005 18:26:

I really don't think this are just remakes of classical peices (like Adagio). Geert Huinink co-produced both those tracks and I am pretty sure he did most of the arranging.

http://e.discogs.com/release/441794

http://e.discogs.com/release/335531


Posted by drewalves on Jun-02-2005 18:53:

i still think they are. they just might not be famous works like adagio.


Posted by Massive on Jun-02-2005 19:24:

quote:
Originally posted by drewalves
i still think they are. they just might not be famous works like adagio.


nope.
all classical pieces in tiesto's tracks such as magik journey and forever today are entirely composed & produced by geert huinink. huinink is a classically trained musician


Posted by Project 7 on Jun-02-2005 19:32:

Forever Today was originally composed by Arnold Scwharsnegger


Posted by Massive on Jun-02-2005 19:37:


Posted by drewalves on Jun-02-2005 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Massive
nope.
all classical pieces in tiesto's tracks such as magik journey and forever today are entirely composed & produced by geert huinink. huinink is a classically trained musician


again. im not talking about a remix or a remake. tiesto wouldnt produce a remake and not give credit. im not acting dumb here , i know Tiesto and Geert composed it, im just VERY SURE i heard the main theme of "magik journey" from a classical song.

and since a Geert and Tiesto are both classically trained. dont you think they could have used parts of other songs. geez. Geert and Tiesto both have remixed or remade classical songs. they have also composed their own songs, but the classical style ones seems to all be influenced by old songs. ITS NOT LIKE ITS NEW AGE SYMPHONY!

tiesto's not composing classical wonders is he? hes making wonderful trance songs.


Posted by Massive on Jun-02-2005 19:45:

quote:
Originally posted by drewalves

and since a Geert and Tiesto are both classically trained.


hold your horses
just to inform you, Tiesto isn't classically trained. In fact he can't produce sh*t really He's got a nice team of people working for him behind the scenes, of which geert huinink is only one of them.
It's just what they (=the record label) want you to believe

another poor victim, don't blame you though


Posted by drewalves on Jun-02-2005 19:47:

and Geert has made some wonderful tracks also, but then again some really bad songs. it just doesnt seem all too perfect.

dj producer arranger composer


Posted by Massive on Jun-02-2005 19:52:

quote:
Originally posted by drewalves
and Geert has made some wonderful tracks also, but then again some really bad songs. it just doesnt seem all too perfect.

dj producer arranger composer


well you might not like some of geert's tracks, but I can't think of any of his solo tracks or his tracks with Alco Lammers, that are badly produced. he's a brilliant producer, who sure knows how to create a quality track.


Posted by drewalves on Jun-02-2005 19:55:

massive, you think im crazy though? or you believe i heard magik journey?

lol

tell me the truth, what do you think?


Posted by Massive on Jun-02-2005 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by drewalves
massive, you think im crazy though? or you believe i heard magik journey?

lol

tell me the truth, what do you think?


Yeah ofcourse I believe you, I suppose, your posts start to make less sense to me, you not getting the point here?


Posted by drewalves on Jun-02-2005 19:59:

nah man. i get what your saying.

im just questioning Tiesto and Geert. thats it.

i guess i should ask around a classical forum


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-02-2005 20:02:

ok so how do we know that geert made these works himself? has he said that in an interview or something? this came up in a thread not too long ago about copyrights and i believe the rule for music is 75 years after the original artists death...you do not need a copyright any longer. so if that's the case...he could use these without needing to give credit...


Posted by drewalves on Jun-02-2005 20:03:

yeah. thats my damn pooint


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-02-2005 20:04:

quote:
Originally posted by drewalves
yeah. thats my damn pooint


yeah i know it was...i was articulating it for everyone else here hehe


Posted by sandstorm03 on Jun-02-2005 20:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
ok so how do we know that geert made these works himself? has he said that in an interview or something? this came up in a thread not too long ago about copyrights and i believe the rule for music is 75 years after the original artists death...you do not need a copyright any longer. so if that's the case...he could use these without needing to give credit...


there is a thread for tracks like that


Posted by Massive on Jun-02-2005 20:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
ok so how do we know that geert made these works himself?


well 'we' know that for a fact, although that might not be enough for you to believe it.


Posted by drewalves on Jun-02-2005 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Massive
well 'we' know that for a fact, although that might not be enough for you to believe it.


that can go either way. its completely original, which what actually is, and then is it a direct copy of the chords of the classical song.

i believed it was original, mostly because i never heard or saw anything about what influenced that song. no where do they even say, this composer or song influenced it. (but why would they)


Posted by RebeL9 on Jun-02-2005 23:23:

quote:
Originally posted by drewalves

tiesto's not composing classical wonders is he? hes making wonderful trance songs.


dont believe that most of these songs are made by Tiesto. Or you are out on thin ice!


Posted by Driguez on Jun-02-2005 23:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Project 7
Forever Today was originally composed by Arnold Scwharsnegger


LMMFAO


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