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Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jun-06-2005 16:01:

Plastikman

Which album, and why?


Posted by Aiwendil on Jun-06-2005 16:03:

i think the most common answer you'll get is sheet one. most likely because of the excellence of the magnificent acid line interplay with hawtin's signature minimal techno sounds, or some such numbskullery. it's the album that launched his fame, and all that. musik is probably just as good with a similar sound, but sheet one...that's the one.


Posted by tactik on Jun-06-2005 16:08:

Musik is my favorite because it contains the elements from Sheet One, only more mature IMO. I don't I've listened to any album more then Musik, so it's pretty safe to say that it's my all time favorite album.


Posted by chesco on Jun-06-2005 16:27:

Sheet one is a brilliant peice of music, still sounding as fresh today as when it was released.

I've not heard much of his other albums, i found closer and consumed a bit too deep. Musik and Artifakts are definately albums i'd buy if I could find them at reasonable prices.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jun-06-2005 16:31:

All his albums are going for �7.99 on Amazon.co.uk, hence my interest.

I'm still torn between Sheet One and Musik.


Posted by Johan (DJ Irish) on Jun-06-2005 19:42:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
All his albums are going for �7.99 on Amazon.co.uk, hence my interest.

I'm still torn between Sheet One and Musik.


Well get both then

Your collection won't be complete oterhwise anyways (for the above mentioned reasons). Hawtin is in a league of his own me thinks


Posted by Psy-T on Jun-06-2005 19:51:

i love all of em, musik a bit more then the others


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jun-06-2005 21:10:

I'll get Musik then, and if it's up to scratch I'll get Sheet One too.


Posted by Aiwendil on Jun-06-2005 21:20:

i don't think you'll like either. didn't you say you hate simple music or something along those lines?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jun-06-2005 21:23:

No... unless you mean my attack on house on the Ishboard, which shouldn't have been taken too literally.

I've always loved anything wih a 303 in, and I don't own enough classic techno. At worst I've lost eight quid.


Posted by Aiwendil on Jun-06-2005 21:28:

no i'm pretty sure your main argument against not liking a lot of music is that they are simple, and therefore beneath your notice. like daft punk or classic trance. i almost specifically remember you saying you don't like either because they have no musical merit due to their extreme simplicity. i'll tell you this, the music on any plastikman album is going to be more simplistic than any house or trance record you can find.

really whether they have a 303 is not the point. or perhaps it is the pivotal piece of information. you see, if you follow my logic here...you don't like chunks of music because they are simple. you think they have no merit because they are simple. you have said this. richie hawtin makes minimal techno, probably one of the simplest forms of edm out there. which means that you either won't like the album or dislike those aforementioned chunks for a reason other than you state. probably personal. a lot of house has acid. do you like acid house? most of classic trance is acid. you don't like any of that. so what's the real reason you don't like those kinds of music?

i assure you my concern is that you not buy something you will surely dislike. as for the rest, i'm a very curious fellow.


Posted by Inertia on Jun-06-2005 21:34:

Selections 1999-2000 is also a strong choice, bear with me though, not produced like any of the other, just a bunch of his tracks put on one CD. it contains brilliant pieces like 'Spastik', 'Minus Orange', 'Are Friends Electrik?' and 'Loop'.

or... you could also get DE9: Closer to the Edit.

why? well, nto exactly an album, but one hell of a masterpiece anyway.


Posted by verminator on Jun-06-2005 21:36:

you could also wait for hawtin's new album which will be released later this year (septemberish i think)


Posted by basd on Jun-07-2005 07:04:

quote:
Originally posted by verminator
you could also wait for hawtin's new album which will be released later this year (septemberish i think)

See http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=270125

I'd also go with Sheet One, though Musik is top notch as well.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jun-07-2005 11:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Aiwendil
no i'm pretty sure your main argument against not liking a lot of music is that they are simple, and therefore beneath your notice. like daft punk or classic trance. i almost specifically remember you saying you don't like either because they have no musical merit due to their extreme simplicity. i'll tell you this, the music on any plastikman album is going to be more simplistic than any house or trance record you can find.


My point has always been that simplistic music must be closer to perfection to entertain. Complex tracks can be weak in many areas as the sum of the parts is less than the whole. However, simple music must be very good in all elements for me to enjoy, and 4 bars of an old funk track isn't a very good element in my book. 4 bars of acid though- I can live with that.

Trust me, I know techno is simplistic. I still enjoy the genre though.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Jun-07-2005 14:23:

Discounting Sheet One, if i'd a choice, i'd purchase Recycled Plastik inasmuch as it has Krakpot on it. Or you can just buy the vinyl.



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