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Posted by ShadoWolf on Jun-07-2005 17:25:

Shame / Disagreement China orders all websites, blogs to register with government or face shutdown

http://money.canoe.ca/News/Sectors/...1075201-ap.html

China orders all websites, blogs to register with government or face shutdown
By ELAINE KURTENBACH

SHANGHAI, China (AP) - Authorities have ordered all China-based websites and blogs to register or be closed down, in the latest effort by the communist government to police the unruly world of cyberspace.

Commercial publishers and advertisers can face fines of up to one million yuan, or the equivalent of about $120,000 US, for failing to register, according to documents posted on the website of the Ministry of Information Industry.

Private, noncommercial bloggers or websites must register the complete identity of the person responsible for the site, it said. The ministry, which has set a June 30 deadline for compliance, said 74 per cent of all sites had already registered.

"The Internet has profited many people but it also has brought many problems, such as sex, violence and feudal superstitions and other harmful information that has seriously poisoned people's spirits," the MII website said in explaining the new rules.

All media in China is controlled by the state, though limits on the Internet have tended to lag behind as advances in technology outstripped Beijing's ability to keep tabs on users and service providers.

The government has long required all major commercial websites to register and take responsibility for Internet content. But blogs, web forums, chat rooms and other virtual venues have been harder to police.

Now, however, the government has developed a new system to track down and close those caught violating the rules, the ministry said.

"There's a 'Net Crawler System' that will monitor the sites in real time and search each web address for its registration number," said one document listing questions and answers about the new rules. "It will report back to the MII if it finds a site thought to be unregistered."

The press advocacy group Reporters Without Borders protested the new rules, saying they would force people with dissenting opinions to shift websites overseas, where mainland Chinese users might be unable to access them due to government censorship filters.

The Paris-based group said that in May, many bloggers in China received e-mail messages telling them to register to avoid having their blogs declared illegal.

"Those who continue to publish under their real names on sites hosted in China will either have to avoid political subjects or just relay the Communist Party's propaganda," the rights group said. "This decision will enable those in power to control online news and information much more effectively."


Posted by Capitalizt on Jun-07-2005 17:55:

Gotta love communism.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Jun-07-2005 18:38:

Why does not surprise me. China is communist afterall. That's pretty crapy news for the Chinese(living in China ofcourse).


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jun-07-2005 23:55:

o well it could always be worse for the chinkers


Posted by josh4 on Jun-08-2005 00:17:

wouldnt want Chinese citizens to be exposed to material that might cause them to start thinking freely


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jun-08-2005 00:29:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
wouldnt want Chinese citizens to be exposed to material that might cause them to start thinking freely

if they did they would rebel


Posted by Dupz on Jun-08-2005 01:30:

I thought this kind of shite only happened in the US


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jun-08-2005 01:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Dupz
I thought this kind of shite only happened in the US

WHAT WAT FUCKING SHIT


Posted by St_Andrew on Jun-08-2005 01:50:

i really wounder how long this "communism" regim will last... im kinda suprised its still there!


Posted by occrider on Jun-08-2005 05:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Dupz
I thought this kind of shite only happened in the US


Hmmm well the Communications Decency Act (CDA) and the Child Online Protection Act (COPA) were both ruled as unconstitutional by the Supreme Court ... how's that Broadcasting Services Amendment (Online Services) Act working out for you guys?

http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/cens1.html


Posted by ProDiGaL on Jun-08-2005 12:05:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
wouldnt want Chinese citizens to be exposed to material that might cause them to start thinking freely

yeah, they might become such free thinkers like us westerners......
i wonder which TV channel ill get my opinion from today.


Posted by Subey on Jun-08-2005 19:56:

Don't worry about China... they swallowed the Hong Kong virus on purpose, and its been busy re-writing their code ever since.


Posted by xxxtasy on Jun-09-2005 17:40:

Economic prosperity comes ahead of social turmoil, aka free speech which can often be construed in times of record unemployment.

This type of political supression is necessary to keep a lid on unnecessary protests.

I am all for it.

Lets get over with the economic liberalisation first.


Posted by articnorth on Jun-10-2005 16:57:

eh, i guess china the giant is behind a mask.

can the united states disinvest from china, giving the american people their jobs back, oh pretty please.

china is a communism country, the idealogy remains the same with the thinking.


Posted by zig on Jun-11-2005 11:34:

Nothing new here, the censoring of the internet has been going on for years in the middle east.


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jun-11-2005 12:51:

so what that is the middle east they are living under tyrants and stuff and the only reason anyone cares about them is due to the oil


Posted by ShadoWolf on Jun-12-2005 20:58:

quote:
Originally posted by metalgearsolid
so what that is the middle east they are living under tyrants and stuff and the only reason anyone cares about them is due to the oil


actually it has more do with the Cold War than anything else, including oil


Posted by ProDiGaL on Jun-13-2005 12:28:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
actually it has more do with the Cold War than anything else, including oil

the cold war hey?
hmm lets see it only ended over 10 years ago.


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jun-13-2005 16:24:

now microsoft is helping beijing...crap


Posted by occrider on Jun-13-2005 16:27:

quote:
Originally posted by metalgearsolid
now microsoft is helping beijing...crap


I'm surprised that google is as well, isn't their company motto "do no evil" or something like that?


Posted by articnorth on Jun-13-2005 17:13:

Microsoft accused of censorship in China

check this article,

about china and microsoft.



http://www.smh.com.au/news/Technolo...8645744616.html


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jun-13-2005 19:49:

Re: Microsoft accused of censorship in China

quote:
Originally posted by articnorth
check this article,

about china and microsoft.



http://www.smh.com.au/news/Technolo...8645744616.html

hey u MORON check out my link


Posted by TheNobleEu on Jun-13-2005 22:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
Gotta love communism.


China's a strange situation -- it's 'titularly Communist' in its political ideology (which is to say its interest is holding onto power), but it has already begun the transition to a free market. These Communists don't really believe in economic Communism anymore.

The current leaders of China are all Western-educated technocrats; they realize they must change with the times or face irrelevance (pay attention Vatican City).

China has been censoring the internet for ages (concern over Falun Gong, anti-government campaigning/protest organization over the internet -- part of the post-Tiananmen paranoia) and even put down Chinese civil demonstrations against Japan a short while ago (when the government is itself anti-Japan!)

In other words, business as usual. This doesn't have much to do with ideological Communism anymore, just bloc-totalitarianism.

Cheers,
-Noble.


Posted by ShadoWolf on Jun-14-2005 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by ProDiGaL
the cold war hey?
hmm lets see it only ended over 10 years ago.


yes, and now the U.S. is cleaning out all the dictators it once supported that are no longer needed... Saddam, etc.


Posted by TheNobleEu on Jun-14-2005 03:21:

We can get oil anywhere

The oil thing really is quite overdone.

Noticed what the price of a barrel is lately? It just spiked over $2.08 US, currently trading at $55.62 pb in NYC:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/13/mar....reut/index.htm

War in the Gulf makes oil more expensive, it doesn't somehow lower oil prices or give the US or anyone else "free oil." That's simply not how these things work -- OPEC exists for a reason, no small part of which is to guarantee flow...

It's become the catch phrase of the trendy, anti-war crowd to think war in the Gulf is launched so Yanks can spend 5 cents less per gallon at the pumps. Just ain't so:

1 US gallon = 3.785 litres

For those in the know, the above means, on average, that we in Canada pay damn near double what the Yanks do for the same amount of gas. I think the Yanks are currently paying about ~$1.80 or so on average for a gallon -- and they're complaining about high prices at the pumps? Can you imagine the hysteria it would cause in the US if they paid over $3 a US gallon as we typically do?

So... why aren't we leading a petrol-revolution, or a war in the Gulf? Seems we'd have more justification.

'Cause oil isn't all that important -- we can get it anywhere. If oil was the motive/objective, why aren't we at war with Saudi Arabia, or Bahrain? (or any of a hundred candidates who couldn't put up any real resistance?)

...Because I'm afraid the reality of the situation is quite larger and more grand-strategic than one country's oil, when a hundred oil-bearing countries exist (one of which is Canada, which exports millions of barrels -- seen what's been going on in Alberta and off the coast of Newfoundland lately?), that are already friendly to the West in general, each with billions of barrels in reserves waiting to sell us (especially the merchants of the Third World, who ain't got much of anything else to sell).

Don't be fooled that this is over oil -- that idea is too ludicrously simplistic.

Cheers,
-Noble.



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