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What does the word "dub" mean?! (like in "dub mix")
Hi,
Anybody knows what the word "dub" mean. As far as I know a dub mix is an instrumental (or with very few vocals) but where does that word come from and why is it used for instrumental tracks?! Anybody knows this?
take out the lyrics, harmony, melodies, percussion, and what you have on your hands now is a DUB!
no, my friend, that would be an instrumental.
a dub just uses a minimal amount of vocals, possibly just a line from the chorus, look up Pqm - You are sleeping (Luke Chable's Dub Pass)
it keeps the "you are sleeping" but the rest is gone. ydig?
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| Originally posted by Aiwendil take out the lyrics, harmony, melodies, percussion, and what you have on your hands now is a DUB! |
no vocals.
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| Dub is characterized as a "version" of an existing song, typically emphasizing the drums and bass for a sound popular in local Sound Systems. |
A dub mix usually is just another term for instrumental.
However, a good dub artist can manipulate the studio in such a way that music sounds like it has more depth to it. Dub fiddles with resonance in sound, making it a favorite for headphone and marijuana junkies.
Dub in this sense means many of the high frequencies are removed, which often includes vocals. A dub mix doesn't necessarily refer to vocals though, as there have been "dub mixes" of instrumental tracks released.
Removed:
High Frequenties
Parts of vocals
exapmle:
Blank & Jones - Perfect Silence (E-Craig's 212 Dub Mix) <-> Blank & Jones - Perfect Silence (E-Craig's 212 Mix)
Vocal lines removed:
"The most perfect silence is when there's no need to explain ..."
Dub : Some vocals, like just a one liner
Instrumental : No Vocals
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| Originally posted by Project 7 Dub : Some vocals, like just a one liner Instrumental : No Vocals |
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| Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You're an idiot. At least read what other people have put before offering your erronous answer- you might learn something. |
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| Originally posted by Project 7 Yea i know, i was just telling him it simple. |
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| Originally posted by Project 7 Yea i know, i was just telling him it simple. |
did any of you actually read the first post?!
you've all been repeating what the thread starter already posted in the first post but no one has answered his questions.
there has been a lot of talk about the origins of the word dub on TA, but afaik there has been no proper conclusion to where the word originates from and why is it used for instrumental/less-vocal/less-hi-freq tracks.
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| Originally posted by skip did any of you actually read the first post?! you've all been repeating what the thread starter already posted in the first post but no one has answered his questions. there has been a lot of talk about the origins of the word dub on TA, but afaik there has been no proper conclusion to where the word originates from and why is it used for instrumental/less-vocal/less-hi-freq tracks. |
how the heck did a thread on what 'dub' means, get to two pages???
EDIT: Its 2 pages now bishhhh....hehe
It's the first page. Display more posts per page, nooblar.
Re: What does the word "dub" mean?! (like in "dub mix")
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| Originally posted by Dance123 Hi, Anybody knows what the word "dub" mean. As far as I know a dub mix is an instrumental (or with very few vocals) but where does that word come from and why is it used for instrumental tracks?! Anybody knows this? |
In my opinion a dub usually causes a track to be more 'progressive'.
As said, it usually takes out a lot of the higher frequencies and usually removes a lot the vocals if there are any (most of the 'non-chorus' vocals). This causes the track, IMO, to become more 'progressive' than the original. The purpose of a dub mix is usually to make the track more club friendly, which as sandstorm quoted, emphasizes the drums and bass which is better recieved while dancing. 
This may sound like a dubs a form of muting the original or taking away from the energy. Which, IMO, is quite the contrary. If a dub remix is done correctly they have more focused on the track's 'purpose'. They have honed in on the impressive parts of the track and chiseled away at the extra.
Anyway dubs are usually better for mixing and better on the dance floor while the originals are usually suited more for albums and personal listening.
BTW, I don't know where the word dub came from. I think it's just a slang term.
In reggae, dubs may be rimixes that have mostly echoed vocals: Black Uhuru's Cowboy Town = Dub Town; Positive = Positively Dub; Space Within Your Heart = Space Within Your Dub, etc etc. King Tubby's dubs may have contained no vocals at all, but are still considered dubs (Frifter Dub), but, are not to be confused with riddims. Mad Professor's dubs had no vocals or were not remixes either. It's been this way before electronica exsisted.
Then there's dubplates... 
My goodness, the ignorance in this threat is catastrophic.
*ahem*
THE WORD DUB itself came from Jamaica, and originally referred to the b-sides of 7" reggae singles in the 60s, which were no more than long, instrument)al versions of the A-side (but other than that, no real difference. This was called 'dub', because in common audio recording parlance "dubbing" something means to re-record it (ie: foreign language films), and that's essentially all the B-side was (speculation insisting that dub is Jamaican slang for sex notwithstanding). In time, the B-side became more popular than the A-side at parties where the DJ would play them, and then a toastmaster (or Master of Ceremonies aka MC) would make up his own lyrics for the song, thus giving it new life. In time, this artform evolved into rapping.
THE SOUND DUB came also from Jamaica. By the 70s, as the music progressed, producers like Lee Perry and King Tubby began tinkering more and more in the studio, creating spaced-out, heavily-reverbed stand alone tracks in their own right. Calling it 'dub' was a perfectly apt name for it, as it consisted of heavy, layered instrumentation, re-recorded and re-re-re-recorded over and over again, creating a dense, sonic soundscape with tremendous low frequencies. Hence: dubbing the music. Start with a skeletal structure, and then keep adding to it. They were among the pioneers who really started experimenting with electronics and advanced studio techniques (for the time).
THE DUB MIX originally referred to anything given the dub treatment, though over the years evolved into any kind of remix that removes the higher frequencies (lyrics, melody, harmony) and just leaves the groove, which may or may not be Dub music.
Dub evolved, and by the 90s many forms of it exist, including Dub House and Dub Techno and Ambient Dub, etc...and its influence can pretty much be found in every electronic music genre that exists. Especially trance (every time you hear an echo or reverb...thank the Dub guys for pioneering that technique).
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| Originally posted by Ishkur My goodness, the ignorance in this threat is catastrophic. |
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| Originally posted by Ian^ ignorance in the description of some genres |
Another thread into flames, congrats!
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