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$1 amnesty for pirated software Microsoft has reached a deal with Indonesia over the tens of thousands of pirated versions of Windows programs used in government departments. Ministers said Microsoft had agreed an amnesty under which a token sum of one dollar will be paid for every computer found to be using illegal software. In exchange, the government has promised to buy Microsoft merchandise legally in future. Indonesia has one of the world's highest rates of pirated programs. 'Realistic' deal The deal between Microsoft and the Indonesian government is said to affect up to 50,000 computers running illegal software. HIGHEST PIRACY RATES Vietnam: 92% Ukraine: 91% China: 90% Zimbabwe: 90% Indonesia: 87% Source: BSA Press reports said the amnesty was proposed last month, when the Indonesian president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono met Microsoft boss Bill Gates at the company's Seattle headquarters. "Microsoft is being realistic," Indonesia's information minister, Sofyan Djalil, was quoted as saying in the Jakarta Post newspaper. "They can't force developing countries like us to solely use legal software since we can't afford it. They want us to gradually reduce our use of it." Acute issue Software piracy is a huge issue in Asia, where the rate at which people are going online is soaring. During 2004, 44 million people began using the internet for the first time in the region. A recent study by the Business Software Alliance (BSA), an organisation representing leading manufacturers, found that just over half of the software on personal computers in the Asia was pirated in 2004. It said the losses due to counterfeit programs amounted to almost US$8bn. The problem is particularly acute in Indonesia. According to the BSA, it ranks among the world's top five pirating countries below Vietnam, Ukraine, China and Zimbabwe. Counterfeit software makes up 87% of software on the market in Indonesia, according to BSA figures. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/...ogy/4076982.stm

governments admiting to the blatant use of pirated software thats nuts.

Like I used to say on shareconnector:

Windows will always be in perpetual beta.

I guess it is time to move to Linux then, which many govts are doing so now.

I wonder if I can pay $1 for XP...

What's the criteria? Indonesian government employee?... I'm sure I can pay them $5 for an ID that says I am

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Originally posted by xxxtasy I guess it is time to move to Linux then, which many govts are doing so now.

yes, things are looking kinda bright hopefully home users will follow, more and more manufactures are selling it preinstalled now

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Originally posted by St_Andrew yes, things are looking kinda bright hopefully home users will follow, more and more manufactures are selling it preinstalled now

wtf you talking about if Windows gives away XP for $1, linux doesn't stand a change.

I'm sorry but thats the truth

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Originally posted by Yoepus wtf you talking about if Windows gives away XP for $1, linux doesn't stand a change. I'm sorry but thats the truth

It's all about freedom man

and i dont think MS is intending to make this one dollar thing a tradition

do they give food with that one dollar??

Microsoft seems to be seeking charity. Why pay a dollar when Microsoft can't do a damn thing about the pirated software to begin with.

Bill Gates has billions. How much money more does he need anyhow?


[[[smoke]]]

i think he just wants to stay on top

If entire countries are having trouble affording legitimate software to run their systems on, how in Christ's name are us lowly students supposed to afford it?? I expect Microsoft to be handing me the 64-bit Windows on a silver platter then...

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Originally posted by Streakfury If entire countries are having trouble affording legitimate software to run their systems on, how in Christ's name are us lowly students supposed to afford it?? I expect Microsoft to be handing me the 64-bit Windows on a silver platter then...

I think that M$ has agreements with most universities for reduced price/free products. At least if you're likely to end up in positions where you'll have a say in what software companies should install. I have pretty much free copies of most of M$ software - and am allowed to use it even after I leave the university. I don't see why I would, though.

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Originally posted by smokeape Microsoft seems to be seeking charity. Why pay a dollar when Microsoft can't do a damn thing about the pirated software to begin with. Bill Gates has billions. How much money more does he need anyhow? [[[smoke]]]

The man gives away millions upon millions as it is.
How long before we start doing that?

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r The man gives away millions upon millions as it is. How long before we start doing that?

so wait u believe he deserves the $ because we wont be giving millions away??

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid so wait u believe he deserves the $ because we wont be giving millions away??

No, I'm saying that he already gives millions away.

The fact that it's one dollar only stands to reason; it's a business tranaction that local computer companies can deal with better than, 'free'.
There has never been any mention that any of that money was even going to Microsoft...

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Originally posted by trancaholic I think that M$ has agreements with most universities for reduced price/free products. At least if you're likely to end up in positions where you'll have a say in what software companies should install. I have pretty much free copies of most of M$ software - and am allowed to use it even after I leave the university. I don't see why I would, though.

Yea - I bougth my XP Pro at university for $5. I was able to buy Office for another $10 - and .Net Developer Suite for around $45. Once you have a license you can use it after you graduate too... but it makes paying for XP Pro at $150 a pop much harder after you are used to paying just $5.

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Originally posted by trancaholic I think that M$ has agreements with most universities for reduced price/free products. At least if you're likely to end up in positions where you'll have a say in what software companies should install. I have pretty much free copies of most of M$ software - and am allowed to use it even after I leave the university. I don't see why I would, though.

yeah still running WIN XP MSDN version i downloaded legally/legit msft key 3years ago... and i graduated college last year.

downloaded other msft software for free (legally) when i had the chance...



>JM<

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Originally posted by xxxtasy I guess it is time to move to Linux then, which many govts are doing so now.

www.distrowatch.com

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Originally posted by St_Andrew yes, things are looking kinda bright hopefully home users will follow, more and more manufactures are selling it preinstalled now

Linspire. Once called Lindows.

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Originally posted by Yoepus wtf you talking about if Windows gives away XP for $1, linux doesn't stand a change. I'm sorry but thats the truth

Stop spreading FUD. But seriously have you've ever tried it? And if so, what distro?
A majority of Linux distributions are free. And that is way better than getting $1 from Bill for a bootlegged iso of XP which will always be in a state of repair.

To be honest with you, as soon as I can get a bigger HD, I am making this a quad boot system.
2000 Pro for stability. XP Pro for Gaming. Server 2003 for VPN.
And Linux for all three at the same time.

*rubbing hands together mad scientist style*

Operating systems and major software suites can be had free of charge by true geeks on the Internet. But, realize those are about one tenth of one tenth percent who actually know how to do it. Bill Gates ain't going for those types. He's aiming for the stupids...


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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Linspire. Once called Lindows.

Yeah, i would never install that tho, but i guess its a good alternative for home users. Have you tried it? I think that linux dists that aims to be user friendly usually turns out somewhat closer to windows, with all the bs that comes with it! At least thats what i thought after tring for example Mandrake (although that was a while ago, might be better now). But yeah, dists like Suse and Fedora works pretty well and are somewhat user friendly so i guess its possible

But Gentoo all the way for me!

@smokeape

That's like you having a seminar on "Easy Ways to Make Money Now" at $40 a seat at some hotel.

Uptime Project list. Here the average uptime is not on a windows box.

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What is Linux good at * Router (although the number of connections is limited by the number of NICs) * Firewall - It does have a stateful firewall * Proxy Server * Web Server * DNS Server * Print Server (for both Windows and Unix clients) * File Server (for both Windows and Unix clients) * IPSec gateway * Supports PPTP (the support is far from perfect, but good enough for most people; I haven't tried it on NT so I can' comment on how well NT supports this.) * Mail Server (Pop3 and SMTP, don't know about IMAP) * SQL Server (except for MS SQL of course) * Development Machine (C, C++, Java, Perl, PHP, and some others I forget). Since it has a cross-compiler, you can even write and compile programs for Windows on it. * LDAP Server * DHCP Server * Wins Server * FTP Server * Remote Administration Things Linux is not good for * Application server where the application actually runs on the server and is for Windows only. Some "application servers" are really only file servers where the program files are on the server rather than the local hard drive. * People not willing to spend even a small effort learning. * Working with any piece of hardware out there (Of course, neither is NT, or 2000, or XP. That's why there is a hardware compatibility list for those.) * Catching the Microsoft Outlook virus-of-the-day * Gaming (although there are a number of games for Linux, including Doom and Quake and this is changing) * Running a "critical" application that is for Windows only Taken from http://www.spotswood-computer.net/present/linuxvswindows.html

@St_Andrew

Mandrake/Mandriva is good for n00bs. While Fedora, has a bit of a curve.

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Stop spreading FUD. But seriously have you've ever tried it? And if so, what distro?

Its not FUD its the truth, just look at IE

Anyway yes - I have all too much experience with Linux - basically if you have all the time in your life, don't mind starring at a computer all day, and tinkering every little thing till you finally get it to work - use linux. Otherwise Windows is the key.

Currently I have a dual-opteron scsi 60gb raid 5 server with 2GB ram (it was a year ago, so at the time it was more impressive) running SUSE 8 or 9 can't remember - enterprise.

And although I haven't gotten viruses, I had to put a ton (and it is constantly ongoing process) to fend off hackers, spammers, and idiots from trying to play 'geek' with the box. .... An auto-update with the latest security patches would have been much nicer, but the server has/had so many holes it was like swiss cheese.... and this is after being behind a double firewall, etc... I wouldn't even know if the thing caught some viruses...


Anyway, I love the server only for one reason - I do apache/php/mysql and its cheap (err guess thats two).


I would never, I repeate, never use linux for the desktop in its current state - I simply have too much cool gadgets that I use in my day to day life that require windows (i.e. pocketpc, smartphone, digi cam, etc). And I like it that way.

Linux is for servers, plain and simple.

You lead a double life. Evil Zionist Occupier™ one day to l33t admin the next.

Don't you think you can contribute to what open source is all about with statements like that? You worked with it on an IT level, couldn't you offer some kind of input? To make linux more people friendly?

You are more l33t than me.

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Originally posted by Yoepus .... An auto-update with the latest security patches would have been much nicer, but the server has/had so many holes it was like swiss cheese....

Don't know if it exists for Suse, but yum for fedora gets you updated in one command line:

yum -y update

and that includes all your applications including the server software. Much much much more simple than windoze.

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Originally posted by Yoepus I would never, I repeate, never use linux for the desktop in its current state - I simply have too much cool gadgets that I use in my day to day life that require windows (i.e. pocketpc, smartphone, digi cam, etc). And I like it that way. Linux is for servers, plain and simple.

I have a brand new digi-cam (Canon) and a brand new mp3-player (iRiver) and both worked right out of the box, with no installation of drivers. On my linjux box in Denmark I have two printers and a digitizer attached as well. All works flawlessly, whereas the digitizer *does not* work on Windows 2000 nor XP. It all has to do with doing a google check before buying new hardware.

I once heard someone say that Linux was the choice for those not afraid to mess around with their system and for those with absolutely no experience with computers at all (because it shields them from making damage to anything but their own home dir). Windows was the choice for the pseudo-nerds/"super users" - people who knows how to install programs and are intimate with the menu options in Word. I agree with that.

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