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What's Up with these Republican Senators and the Anti-Lynching Bill?

If I could just pull my head out of my ass for a quick minute and ask any Conservative out there exactly what the fuck is up with the following list of Republican Senators who have yet to sign or co-sponsor this anti-lynching bill:

Lamar Alexander (R-TN) - (202) 224-4944
Robert Bennett (R-UT) - (202) 224-5444
Thad Cochran (R-MS) - (202) 224-5054
John Cornyn (R-TX) - (202) 224-2934
Michael Crapo (R-ID) - (202) 224-6142
Michael Enzi (R-WY) - (202) 224-3424
Chuck Grassley (R-IA) - (202) 224-3744
Judd Gregg (R-NH) - (202) 224-3324
Orrin Hatch (R-UT) - (202) 224-5251
Kay Hutchison (R-TX) - (202) 224-5922
Jon Kyl (R-AZ) - (202) 224-4521
Trent Lott (R-MS) - (202) 224-6253
Richard Shelby (R-AL) - (202) 224-5744
John Sununu (R-NH) - (202) 224-2841
Craig Thomas (R-WY) - (202) 224-6441


Some background:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=846081
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/print?id=845713

This is a no-brainer, right? I mean, what fucking time period do we live in? And it gets worse - Frist is now being accused of vetoing the vote on the anti-lynching resolution:

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/new...NYUbTTUWUXUTUZT[U]UWU_U_UZU%60UcUcTYWYWZV

(for the above link, sign in as "dailykos" first name, password "dailykos", and email "[email protected]")

In a nutshell - Frist turned around and tried to blame Senators George Allen (R-VA) and Mary Landrieu (D-LA) on this issue saying they didn't want the vote to come to the floor, but they both stated that this isn't true - rather, it was Frist who wouldn't allow it. Frist was the one who didn't want the Senators to go on record.

Republicans, what's up with 1/4 of your Senators refusing to sign onto this bill?

hey stop being a party-pooper! Go lynch and be merry!

Actually now that I'm actually thinking about it - why is this a FEDERAL government issue - criminal law is the realm of the states (i.e. chosing death penalty and sentances).... I'd think it might set a dangerous precendent otherwise.

So in this case Frist is smart as he can be because he is obviously trying to stop this from going to vote. Its basically a lose-lose situation (if they vote for it we lose, if they vote against it, they lose our vote).

Its a loaded-question/vote.

No one wants to go on record being "for" lyncing - but passing such a bill would be sloppy and most likely unconstitutional.

Admittedly, Opus, I am not up to speed on this subject matter. What kind of pork is attached to this bill?

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Originally posted by Shakka Admittedly, Opus, I am not up to speed on this subject matter. What kind of pork is attached to this bill?

Well admittedly, I haven't read the bill in full. From what I have read, however, it was a bill that first gives a full apology to those and their families who suffered lynching in the past. It then passes an anti-lynching law, which though I don't know the details, I think it's pretty straightforward (uh, don't do it?). As for the pork going with it - can't see any here at initial glance.

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Originally posted by Yoepus Actually now that I'm actually thinking about it - why is this a FEDERAL government issue - criminal law is the realm of the states (i.e. chosing death penalty and sentances).... I'd think it might set a dangerous precendent otherwise. So in this case Frist is smart as he can be because he is obviously trying to stop this from going to vote. Its basically a lose-lose situation (if they vote for it we lose, if they vote against it, they lose our vote). Its a loaded-question/vote. No one wants to go on record being "for" lyncing - but passing such a bill would be sloppy and most likely unconstitutional.

Hmm, interesting angle. However I'm not exactly sure that follows for the following reasons. First, not all criminal law falls onto the States now does it? Surely there's a number of criminal laws that are Federal (IOW, you break them, you go to federal court for prosecution). So I don't think that applies necessarily, and would most certainly not be unconstitutional.

Second, I have yet to hear one Republican Senator who failed to sign this bill state this as a reason. Rather, they have dodged saying anything about it whatsoever - which is damn suspicious in of itself. Take Senator Alexander from Tennessee, for example:

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs...EWS02/506160421

Now I think some of these Senators have openly stated that they "support" the bill, but yet they still refuse to sign it.

And finally, in regards to Frist - you're attempting to justify his actions, which is fine. However, his words contradict his actions. Rather than stating a rationale that you depicted (which I think is a bit shaky regardless), he turns around and tries to blame 2 Senators from either side of the aisle in vetoing the bill - a statement which is patently false. IOW, he's lying through his teeth. Not good.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Well admittedly, I haven't read the bill in full. From what I have read, however, it was a bill that first gives a full apology to those and their families who suffered lynching in the past. It then passes an anti-lynching law, which though I don't know the details, I think it's pretty straightforward (uh, don't do it?). As for the pork going with it - can't see any here at initial glance.

Do we have a lynching problem here? Maybe they don't feel like they owe anyone an apology since we're likely talking about the actions of people other than those currently sponsoring the bill. Again, Opus, I'm not really in tune with this bill, but it sounds like an attempt to stir the pot on something that is really a non-issue at this date. I'm personally not offering any apologies for something I had nothing to do with, and if reparations are the next logical step in the process, then I can guaran-damn-tee you that I wouldn't be jumping on board.

Hey, did you see that Oprah is a real Zulu descendent? Shakka don't give 2 shits!

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