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Lack of Hard Dance

I feel the need to whinge about the lack of hard dance in Melbourne in particualr the big festivals.

The lineup for godskitchen is good with some really talented artists but where is the hard dance, its the same with Godskitchen (yes Ed Real and Andy Farley were there but i'm talking about superstar dj's) Elctronic festival got it right earlier this year with proteus and Kai Tracid, but why do GK and TT never have big name hard dance dj's i.e. cosmic gate, dumonde (yes retired now but in the past), hennes and cold, dj scott project, lab 4, phil reynolds, the tidy boys, rob tissera, billy bunter, jon doe, dj spoke, K90 etc. pharamcy parties are good but they[re nothing like the big raves.

What about the biggest superstar hard dance dj in the world Yoji Biomehanika? This guys headlines dance valley, trance energy, senastion black, godskitchen global gathering all the biggest raves in the world, yet when he comes to australia he only plays in hard kandy to a couple of hundred people, no offence to hard kandy but yoji in rod laver arena at the end of the night would tear the place up.

Even Sydney has transmission and they are massive and we in melbourne have nothing that size.

I think thats all i wanted to say.

P.S. if anyone knows where i cand download yoji's EM i would be much appreciated and any of his other sets to, cheers.

www.hardcheeseaddict.com

lack of hard dance is a good thing

you can get your weekly fix at
cheesemonger places like Bubble and Hard Kandy

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Originally posted by taubs Even Sydney has transmission and they are massive and we in melbourne have nothing that size.

let's swap places shall we?

Make sure you get yo ass down to the next Bass Station event! boo-yaH!

I have to admit I came in here ready to make a post like soups or hugebore's but that was logical and reasonable. So Im not going to, instead ill @ huey and soups.

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Originally posted by escee I have to admit I came in here ready to make a post like soups or hugebore's but that was logical and reasonable. So Im not going to, instead ill @ huey and soups.

You know what. Fuck you.

I resent being put in the same category as Soups.

i have put up with 4 years of hard dance so that i could one day see a lineup like the one at godskitchen.

i do agree though, the whole melbourne hard trance/dance scene has dropped off a hell of a lot in recent times. im not complaining tho', in fact i love it.

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Originally posted by Light The Fuse i have put up with 4 years of hard dance so that i could one day see a lineup like the one at godskitchen. i do agree though, the whole melbourne hard trance/dance scene has dropped off a hell of a lot in recent times. im not complaining tho', in fact i love it.

It may have dropped off to an extent but its not as if the "fluffy" trance scene (incorporating melodic, 'uplifting', progressive, etc) has exactly taken off or grown at all...

Their biggest nights still only include stuff like 5AM at Room and Trancsend at Altitude, which are both pretty small nights when compared to how big HK, Bassstation, Bubble are or have been in the past.

Personally I love seeing acts such as Above & Beyond and Gabriel & Dresden given the main stage at events like GK, but variety is the spice of life and i would equally enjoy a set from the likes of Yoji.

Not complaining about the line up, i reckon its great, but i am surprised by it. God's normally does produce a hard trancer in its line up normally without fail

on a side note - if this event is in one of the mian arenas does that mean the walk ways around the stadium are going to be turned into makeshift stages just like when sanchez played before tiesto a few NYE's ago. If so i hope its a no name dj playing there because that sort of set up was an insult

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Fixation.

Taubs, I think you'll find the hard dance scene world wide to be falling off quite alot.

The problem with the crowd it attracts (i realize i am generalizing)is that it's typically the "lets get extremely fucked up" crowd. You'll also find they generally get in to it young, go way to hard, week in week out, and fry themselves within 12 months to two years.
Because of this, the hard scene can only last so long.

I think it's great we are finally catching up with the rest of the world (musically) with the line up we have for this year at GK.

I had a friend here not long ago from over seas laughing that we still had a "hard dance" scene here at all. So enjoy whats left while it lasts i guess.

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Originally posted by taubs but why do GK and TT never have big name hard dance dj's i.e. cosmic gate, dumonde (yes retired now but in the past), hennes and cold, dj scott project, lab 4, phil reynolds, the tidy boys, rob tissera, billy bunter, jon doe, dj spoke, K90 etc. pharamcy parties are good but they[re nothing like the big raves.

Don't get me wrong, I like my share of the harder stuff but TT and GK have done some of the harder style djs over the last 2 years:
BK and Anne Savage @ GK '04
Fergie @ TT '04
Phil Reynolds, Dumonde and Organ Donors @ Sunshine People '05
Cosmic Gate @ GK '03 (yes I know it was a while ago)

Personally I much prefer something like pharmacy for the harder stuff...

Lack of hard dance in Melbourne? About bloody time!

I think this year's GK lineup can only be a great thing for the dance/trance scene. I maintain hard dance cannot be enjoyed unless copious quantities of drugs were consumed in the first instance... and the memory of a great night was left with an incredibly false impression of how good the music actually was.

Bring on the musical, melodic headliners and may more people realise how beautiful trance can really be.

i'll be the one pissing on hardstyles grave

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Originally posted by Huebor www.hardcheeseaddict.com

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Originally posted by 00soups00 lack of hard dance is a good thing you can get your weekly fix at cheesemonger places like Bubble and Hard Kandy

Oh, you guys have me in stitches. Are you both comedians?

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Originally posted by queen_vee Lack of hard dance in Melbourne? About bloody time! I maintain hard dance cannot be enjoyed unless copious quantities of drugs..

A benighted comment, right there...HOW NEUROTIC. For you, maybe, not for others like yours truly

Interesting local lineup too....

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Originally posted by mikey au Personally I much prefer something like pharmacy for the harder stuff...

wouldn't mind going to pharmacy actually... thomas krome is coming at least! .. would be interesting seeing organ donors playing an acid set even if its just for the novelty value (seeing their live setup)

/hijack

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Originally posted by xtractorfan It may have dropped off to an extent but its not as if the "fluffy" trance scene (incorporating melodic, 'uplifting', progressive, etc) has exactly taken off or grown at all... Their biggest nights still only include stuff like 5AM at Room and Trancsend at Altitude, which are both pretty small nights when compared to how big HK, Bassstation, Bubble are or have been in the past. Personally I love seeing acts such as Above & Beyond and Gabriel & Dresden given the main stage at events like GK, but variety is the spice of life and i would equally enjoy a set from the likes of Yoji.

yeah i know the trancier melodic stuff hasnt taken off as much as expect by now...but with the hard dance dropping a bit, there has to be some sort of unce music to take its spot. trance nights are only gunna get bigger.

and yeah, im not dissing hard stuff, i like some hard stuff...but if yoji was to jump on for say a close after above and beyond, nick warren, bt, hybrid and g and d had PLayed - the joint would clear out pretty quick.

I think for the harder stuff to survive, it has to get a bit smarter, a bit techier or something - if someone was to come out and be melbournes answer to marco v they would kill it.

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Originally posted by taubs I feel the need to whinge about the lack of hard dance in Melbourne in particualr the big festivals. The lineup for godskitchen is good with some really talented artists but where is the hard dance, its the same with Godskitchen (yes Ed Real and Andy Farley were there but i'm talking about superstar dj's) Elctronic festival got it right earlier this year with proteus and Kai Tracid, but why do GK and TT never have big name hard dance dj's i.e. cosmic gate, dumonde (yes retired now but in the past), hennes and cold, dj scott project, lab 4, phil reynolds, the tidy boys, rob tissera, billy bunter, jon doe, dj spoke, K90 etc. pharamcy parties are good but they[re nothing like the big raves. What about the biggest superstar hard dance dj in the world Yoji Biomehanika? This guys headlines dance valley, trance energy, senastion black, godskitchen global gathering all the biggest raves in the world, yet when he comes to australia he only plays in hard kandy to a couple of hundred people, no offence to hard kandy but yoji in rod laver arena at the end of the night would tear the place up. Even Sydney has transmission and they are massive and we in melbourne have nothing that size. I think thats all i wanted to say. P.S. if anyone knows where i cand download yoji's EM i would be much appreciated and any of his other sets to, cheers.

Finally!!! Someone on this AUTA i can agree with!!

Yes, GK lineup is good - would be better if ARMIN was headliner and even better with a few harder djs thrown in such as Kai Tracid, Scot Project and Yogi, to mix it up abit. Like xtractorfan said - variety is the splice of life!!!

@ batemanscott - You get the "lets get extremely fucked up" crowd wherever you go these days. Funny how it always seems to be related to the people who listen to the 'harder' music, like the crowd at GK won't be off their heads LOL

And funny your overseas friend said the 'hard dance' scene is dying out, when obviously, with such huge parties and djs in Europe, it's still kicking. You can't compare that to what we have here.

Taubs, for the record, you want quailty hard djs & parties = Europe is the place to be. Australia will always be deprived and people are always going to bitch and generalise abut this genre.

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Originally posted by Light The Fuse yeah i know the trancier melodic stuff hasnt taken off as much as expect by now...but with the hard dance dropping a bit, there has to be some sort of unce music to take its spot. trance nights are only gunna get bigger. and yeah, im not dissing hard stuff, i like some hard stuff...but if yoji was to jump on for say a close after above and beyond, nick warren, bt, hybrid and g and d had PLayed - the joint would clear out pretty quick. I think for the harder stuff to survive, it has to get a bit smarter, a bit techier or something - if someone was to come out and be melbournes answer to marco v they would kill it.

Melbourne's answer to marco v - let's start praying.

lol. id pay to see em.

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Originally posted by AnitA Kai Tracid, Scot Project and Yogi, to mix it up abit. Like xtractorfan said - variety is the splice of life!!!

You get them every bloody year
even when the headlining act listen a hard trance player
all i can say is about bloody time

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Taubs, I think you'll find the hard dance scene world wide to be falling off quite alot

Yes, dumonde done the right thing
time for the rest of them to retire

fuck, if you're whinging about hard dance, come over to adelaide to get your fix, massive hard dance scene over here...

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Originally posted by AnitA Melbourne's answer to marco v - let's start praying.

Praying won't do it- seeking out and supporting your local guys and girls will. You know- Oak tree's come from acorns, and all that shit.. fluffy, but based in truth

melbs answer to marco v = prog

his turned to the dark dark side

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