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k so i'm watching the History Channel now about some indians or some shit and they're talking about this seed (sounds almost like that datura crap) they take and then they "pray to the ancient gods and clean their soul" or some crap like that...
and then it dawned on me...
all the native american tribes talk about speaking to gods and bla bla bla...
ok, put down the fucking peyote dude. what if ancient civilization is all based on visuals from pyschedelic drugs? budists, muslims, shit even the dudes who wrote the bible. what if they imagined it all and they were just trippin balls and wrote a bunch of shit and now we are basing our very existance on it all?
hahahaahh
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| Originally posted by Slylee k so i'm watching the History Channel now about some indians or some shit and they're talking about this seed (sounds almost like that datura crap) they take and then they "pray to the ancient gods and clean their soul" or some crap like that... and then it dawned on me... all the native american tribes talk about speaking to gods and bla bla bla... ok, put down the fucking peyote dude. what if ancient civilization is all based on visuals from pyschedelic drugs? budists, muslims, shit even the dudes who wrote the bible. what if they imagined it all and they were just trippin balls and wrote a bunch of shit and now we are basing our very existance on it all? hahahaahh |
yea but the point of all philosophy and ontology is that mass perception is reality. So if EVERYONE smoked shit and saw shit and it was god, would it not BE god?
not everyone sees the same reality
even in THIS reality
dude gimme nihilism or give me more vodka
are you telling me it isen't like that ? because i always thought thoose old fawkers were high when they founded the thing called "religion" 
arent all religions based on the imagination of poeple or for a lack of better words "faith"?
we need to get epicurus into this hizzy
If that were true it'd be funny as hell considering most religious folk in this country are so anti-drugs.
hahah uh oh here we go.
i'm not very educated on the subject, which is why i usually dont get involved in those threads...i haven't taken any philosophy or religion classes yet, but i'm excited.
it was just a thought i had and i laughed.
drug0rz.
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| Originally posted by Slylee . drug0rz. |
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| Originally posted by Orbax dude gimme nihilism or give me more vodka |
Quote worthy!
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| Originally posted by Slylee hahah uh oh here we go. i'm not very educated on the subject, which is why i usually dont get involved in those threads...i haven't taken any philosophy or religion classes yet, but i'm excited. it was just a thought i had and i laughed. drug0rz. |
so god exists in all places right
teh bottom of a bottle is technically a "place"
therefore God is in the bottom of a bottle.
hahah i dare u to bust into an AA meeting and say that.
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| Originally posted by Orbax so god exists in all places right teh bottom of a bottle is technically a "place" therefore God is in the bottom of a bottle. |
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| Originally posted by Orbax yea but the point of all philosophy and ontology is that mass perception is reality. So if EVERYONE smoked shit and saw shit and it was god, would it not BE god? |
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| Originally posted by Mr. Pink ok here's the issue..........mass perception is reality. that's the problem....... no one ever truly knows if anything can be perceived through the masses because perception, innately, is solely based on the individual. so if we have a collective perception, that's just the utilitarian form of reality....what's best for everyone must be the best option, in general. however, just because, through society we have ONE perception, it doesn't mean it's correct, or even that it truly exists. going back to the individual, where perception is the foundation of thought, we notice that we have our own realities. Our best attempt to form a collective is through LANGUAGE, which in and of itself, isn't a collectively understood realm. Not speaking on the basis of various languages, but various interpretations of words, and languages attempt to communicate the unwordly into a wordly fashion. ..........and stuff. |
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| Originally posted by Mr. Pink ok here's the issue..........mass perception is reality. that's the problem....... no one ever truly knows if anything can be perceived through the masses because perception, innately, is solely based on the individual. so if we have a collective perception, that's just the utilitarian form of reality....what's best for everyone must be the best option, in general. however, just because, through society we have ONE perception, it doesn't mean it's correct, or even that it truly exists. going back to the individual, where perception is the foundation of thought, we notice that we have our own realities. Our best attempt to form a collective is through LANGUAGE, which in and of itself, isn't a collectively understood realm. Not speaking on the basis of various languages, but various interpretations of words, and languages attempt to communicate the unwordly into a wordly fashion. ..........and stuff. |
i doubt it. there was no evidence of a DEA back then, so its obvious drugs werent invented yet
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| Originally posted by nchs09 not the same discussion with the 3 bottles in the house and steven storming out of the room again. lol |
language is hella consentual though. We all "agree" that certain things MEAN things, when in reality there is absolutely no reason to.
I submit to you, sir, that upon the realization that language is arbitrary , we will build a ladder that goes to heaven*
*this isnt even a foot note, its a new paragraph bitch! unf but you hella thought it was so im going against CONVENTION yeyahhhhh
so anyway. Im just saying that in a Malcom X kind of way of "power perceived is power achieved" that if everyone had a common vision it would BE truth. back in the day. The Earth WAS the center of the universe. the only reason we dont think it is now is because we all believe crazy shit about time space and dimensions and shit. We just happen to agree that the people talking to us use words way more crazily than we can or argue against so we acquiesce.
bizzle!
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| Originally posted by Mr. Pink lmao that was about america having no culture apparently that pisses off Americans. and slylee- indeed i did |
how do u guys think the mayans got artifacts into the caves below the dense jungle floor under the island of cozumel?
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| Originally posted by nchs09 and about reality and how ther is no reality but your own and all this... and then we blacked out |
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| Originally posted by Slylee how do u guys think the mayans got artifacts into the caves below the dense jungle floor under the island of cozumel? |
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