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Posted by Phantax on Jun-25-2005 07:14:

Some VST's are too large on the screen

Some synths like Albino 2 and z3ta fit nicely on the screen. But other synths like Minimoog V, Minimonsta..and recently I've been trying to use Kontakt 2 sampler but they dont fit on the screen very well... I am using WinXP so I go into properties and change the screen resolution to every choice in there but it then makes Kontakt 2 way too small. And the fonts are way too small as well on my sequencer. The resolution I use mainly is 800x600..but at this resolution for some reason some synths just go way off the page. But if I choose the other resolutions the synth will either be way too small or stretched in the wrong shape. I use a 17 inch monitor.

Does anyone know how to make these synths fit on the page properly?


thanks !!!


Posted by djbruuen on Jun-25-2005 07:19:

i use 1024x768 on my 17" monitor. i'm surprised you use 800 on yours. i feel it even looks a lot more professional looking at 1024 cause at 800 everything in general is oversized enormously. if i go passed 1024 the icons become to small to comfortably read. i can't really offer a suggestion other then switching to 1024, i'd be shocked to hear this being unbarably small on a 17"


Posted by qiushiming on Jun-25-2005 07:28:

woah...i didnt think people used 800x600 anymore...lol

i used a laptop 15" running at 1600x1200...its great, i can fit everything perfectly. thinking about investing in a widescreen though..

anyhow, i agree with bruuen...do 1024x768. its really not small, you will probably just need some time to get used to it

as for the distortion of the vsts...try updating your drivers, making sure you configure your screen properly...if its vga, then try different configs, if dvi then play with the software configs


Posted by djbruuen on Jun-25-2005 07:32:

quote:
Originally posted by qiushiming


do 1024x768. its really not small, you will probably just need some time to get used to it


exactly, when you change the screen resolution it messes with you and on first glance it feels unbarable, but after some time, it feels perfect.

it that doesn't work i guess you're SOL, or will need really good glasses.


Posted by Phantax on Jun-25-2005 08:39:

why wouldnt i use 800x600? it is normal size. i think it was the default for winxp.. i dont remember changing it.. and it is so perfect. everything else is miniature... 1024x768 makes the font so small its difficult to read anything thats written on my sequencer or these synths now. i dont really understand this resolution stuff. it feels like im standing on the other side of the room looking at the screen.


Posted by Subtle on Jun-25-2005 09:01:

I have an 17 inch LCD, and I use 1280 x 1024, and it works perfect for me.. any smaller and everything is so BIG, try picking an higher resolution, see if u get used to it..

and yeah, Native Instruments is very annyoing as they dont let you resize the window..


Posted by Phantax on Jun-25-2005 09:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
and yeah, Native Instruments is very annyoing as they dont let you resize the window..


aren't they all like this? i havent ever really seen a vst that could be resized.


Posted by Subtle on Jun-25-2005 09:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Phantax
aren't they all like this? i havent ever really seen a vst that could be resized.


Posted by Project 7 on Jun-25-2005 09:49:

I have mine at 1152x864 its just perfect, higher resolutions take a couple of days to get used to but then theres no going back

to change your resolution right click anywhere on your desktop and select proporties, go to the settings tab at the top and then you will see a slider, slide it accross to 1024 or higher, now change your text size if you cant read it, go to apperance tab at the top and you will see font size, select the one which suits you best.

but 800x600 is for dittos who dont know how to use a computer eg they bought one from tiny or some crappy company


Posted by aquila on Jun-25-2005 10:07:

800x600 might be ok for regular computer usage (ie web & office), but for more specialised applications such as sound and vision higher resolutions are almost a must. I run a dual-monitor system comprising of 2x17" CRTs running at 1024x768 and even then I always seem to run out of desktop space.


Posted by Aquarian on Jun-25-2005 11:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Project 7
but 800x600 is for dittos who dont know how to use a computer eg they bought one from tiny or some crappy company


Wow you use a higher desktop resolution - you must be so smart!


Anyways, I find that the best solution is to temporarily resize your desktop, tweak with your synth settings and then save it as a preset so you don't have to reach down those knobs every time.


Posted by Project 7 on Jun-25-2005 11:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
Wow you use a higher desktop resolution - you must be so smart!


Yes i am


Posted by DigiNut on Jun-25-2005 15:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Phantax
why wouldnt i use 800x600? it is normal size.

It's normal maybe for Microsoft Word, but it's anything but normal for people in production, graphics, or development. Even the majority of web pages now are designed for 1024x768 or above. My production PC is 1280x1024 because it's got an LCD, my development PC at work is 1600x1200 - and no, I'm not saying this makes me "smarter" or "better" at either of these things, it's simply what's required for me to get things done at a reasonably efficient pace.

I don't know how you can do anything at all with 800x600 resolution - the typical school of thought with people in the above fields is that no matter how big your screen/resolution is, there is NEVER enough real estate. I'd get myself a second LCD monitor if I could afford one right now. Two screens are better than one.

Turn up your res. End of discussion.


P.S. Native Instruments' interfaces are hopeless no matter what resolution you use.


Posted by Erty on Jun-25-2005 18:16:

There is only one thing you can do really... get glasses (or if you already have glasses, get stronger ones) and use a higher resolution. 800x600 is NOT "normal size", it's only standard in Windows XP because it sets itself to the lowest possible resolution so it will work with any monitor out there. You're supposed to set it to whatever is best for your monitor later, normal options for a 17" would be 1024x768 (altho that's a bit low too), 1152x864 and 1280x960/1280x1024. That's the reason the synths won't fit, they're not designed to

I run my 17" monitors at 1280x1024 and my 21" at 1600x1200


Posted by Phantax on Jun-25-2005 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle


cant you just answer the question? what do you mean native instruments wont let you resize the window?


Posted by [Alpha]Dave on Jun-27-2005 14:43:

I use 1280 x 1024 on my 19", the ultimate resolution. ;D


Posted by Phantax on Jun-27-2005 15:19:

Im very glad I asked this question...lol.. Like qiushiming
& buuren said I'll get used to it. And I have already. Immediately though it felt wrong. That's why I had to come and ask here because I felt like I was doing something the wrong way. Myabe there might have been another way to change the screen size or something. You have to realize that I've been working using that screen size for 3 years now LoL..so when I changed the screen size the fonts felt like they were on the other side of the room they were so small in comparison. But now I realize that if I go back to 800x600 it's gonna make me feel like I have downedsyndrome.

Thanx to everyone for your comments...they were absolutely helpful for me to read all of the extra info provided and just talk this topic through. Seems so simple but since I was using that default screen size for so long everytime I changed it I felt like I cant be doing this right. I love it now! What a difference!!!!


Wish I knew what Subtle was refering to about Native Instruments.


Posted by Subtle on Jun-27-2005 15:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Phantax
Wish I knew what Subtle was refering to about Native Instruments.
the only time i feel the need to resize the Window is when working with plugs from Native Instruments.. i didnt even think of the fact that none of VST plugins let u resize


Posted by Dj Pyster on Jun-27-2005 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by [Alpha]Dave
I use 1280 x 1024 on my 19", the ultimate resolution. ;D


Definately, I have that resolution with that size of a monitor. Nothing beats it.



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