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Posted by d!abolic on Jun-29-2005 21:52:

I wanna get the hell out of TO for the weekend...

Tiesto @ Docks on Thursday, maybe a little beach volleyball on Friday "morning," and then i wanna get the hell outa town... but i don't know where to go. I wanted to take a chick camping, but it looks like all the sites have already been booked. Still, my heart's set on getting out there, spending some time in the wilderness, taking a few great photos, drinking under the starry sky and so on. Can anyone suggest a good place to go? I've never been camping in Canada, and i've been told that i need a permit, but if there are places where i won't be bothered by rangers, that's good enough for me.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jun-29-2005 22:03:

I will suggest Thailand to you, sir.


Posted by MarkT on Jun-29-2005 22:04:

Algonquin is pretty damn big...you could camp for the weekend and not see a soul, I'm sure


Posted by d!abolic on Jun-29-2005 22:21:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
Algonquin is pretty damn big...you could camp for the weekend and not see a soul, I'm sure


Perfect But um.. where exactly do i go? The place is HUGE! Where do i park, etc.


Posted by cap on Jun-29-2005 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by d!abolic
Perfect But um.. where exactly do i go? The place is HUGE! Where do i park, etc.


There are many sites on Algonquin.

They have some camp sites where you can actually park your car on site and just setup a tent next to it. You are walking distance to hiking trails, a lake, etc.

If you are looking for an adventure, there are many camp sites along the hiking trails, some are up to 10km inside a trail and offer seclusion and usually they are right on a clean lake.

There are parking spots at the access points for every hiking trail.

I just did the Highland hiking trail, and it was very scenic, but was quite steep at some points. We stayed at two different camp sites and they were both BEAUTIFUL and 2 seconds from clean water.


Posted by amb_ on Jun-29-2005 22:36:

If you want something closer in the same region, I can refer you to a campground in the Haliburton Highlands (just south of Algonquin Provincial Park). 3 hour drive to Toronto and still most of the amenities in the area, including excellent restaurants. Mike Myers often dines at the Thai restaurant in Minden when he's up here during the summer.

The campground is under new management and from my experience dealing with them, are great people. Full service (showers, meals, etc.) available. I spoke to them yesterday and they still had many nice sites free for the weekend. PM me.


Posted by Sasha on Jun-29-2005 22:40:

PERMIT FOR CAMPING?
no, you don't need it. there is actually no such permit.

(519) 371 3393 - number for private campgrounds.


Posted by amb_ on Jun-29-2005 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by niveole
PERMIT FOR CAMPING?
no, you don't need it. there is actually no such permit.


On Crown Land and Ontario Provincial Parks (including interior camping at Algonquin), permits do exist and are absolutely required in most cases.

I'd imagine that most private campgrounds also maintain some sort of permit system. Brucedale Conservation on Lake Huron, from my experience, does require a camping permit issued by the owners in order to camp on one of their sites.


Posted by LKD on Jun-29-2005 22:55:



and dont come back


Posted by zoogla on Jun-29-2005 22:58:

Dark Angel? Is that you?


Posted by Sasha on Jun-29-2005 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by amb_
On Crown Land and Ontario Provincial Parks (including interior camping at Algonquin), permits do exist and are absolutely required in most cases.

I'd imagine that most private campgrounds also maintain some sort of permit system. Brucedale Conservation on Lake Huron, from my experience, does require a camping permit issued by the owners in order to camp on one of their sites.


Non-residents of Canada who are 18 years of age or older require a permit to camp on Crown lands in northern Ontario, north of the French and Mattawa rivers. A non-resident Crown Land Camping Permit fee is $10.00 per night per visitor 18 years of age and older. Crown Land Camping Permits are available from numerous fish and wildlife licence issuers and from the Ministry of Natural Resources district offices in northern Ontario.

Residents of Canada do not require permits.


Posted by amb_ on Jun-29-2005 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by niveole
Non-residents of Canada who are 18 years of age or older require a permit to camp on Crown lands in northern Ontario, north of the French and Mattawa rivers. A non-resident Crown Land Camping Permit fee is $10.00 per night per visitor 18 years of age and older. Crown Land Camping Permits are available from numerous fish and wildlife licence issuers and from the Ministry of Natural Resources district offices in northern Ontario.

Residents of Canada do not require permits.


quote:
Originally posted by amb_
permits do exist and are absolutely required in most cases.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jun-29-2005 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by fayraree
Dark Angel? Is that you?


Thats was hilarious Fay! LOL


Posted by Sasha on Jun-29-2005 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by amb_


Only NON-RESIDENTS of CANADA require permits!


Posted by amb_ on Jun-29-2005 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by niveole
Only NON-RESIDENTS of CANADA require permits!


On some parts of Crown Land, yeah. That's what I said.

Here's a recap of my original post on this topic:


Posted by LKD on Jun-29-2005 23:28:

^^^^^^k ladies....stop fighting...step AWAY from the lipstick!!!


Posted by amb_ on Jun-29-2005 23:29:

Talking

quote:
Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee
^^^^^^k ladies....stop fighting...step AWAY from the lipstick!!!


Sorry, I didn't mean to hog it. Here you go.


Posted by LKD on Jun-29-2005 23:30:

quote:
Originally posted by amb_
Sorry, I didn't mean to hog it. Here you go.




burn....


Posted by Sasha on Jun-29-2005 23:32:

quote:
Originally posted by amb_
On some parts of Crown Land, yeah. That's what I said.

Here's a recap of my original post on this topic:
  • In certain situations permits are required for camping on Crown Land.
  • Ontario Provincial Parks require permits for camping, even interior camping, such as at Algonquin Provincial Park.
  • Private campgrounds and conservation areas often require permits.


ok. so you are talking about campers who dont live in Canada, correct?


Posted by amb_ on Jun-29-2005 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by niveole
ok. so you are talking about campers who dont live in Canada, correct?


No.

Anyone who wishes to camp in a provincial park or in most private campgrounds requires a permit.

Camping on Crown Land in most areas is free for up to 21 days, for Canadian residents and non-resident landowners.


Posted by d!abolic on Jun-29-2005 23:38:

quote:
Originally posted by cap
There are many sites on Algonquin.

They have some camp sites where you can actually park your car on site and just setup a tent next to it. You are walking distance to hiking trails, a lake, etc.

If you are looking for an adventure, there are many camp sites along the hiking trails, some are up to 10km inside a trail and offer seclusion and usually they are right on a clean lake.

There are parking spots at the access points for every hiking trail.

I just did the Highland hiking trail, and it was very scenic, but was quite steep at some points. We stayed at two different camp sites and they were both BEAUTIFUL and 2 seconds from clean water.


Woah, that sounds awesome! Is there some sort of a detailed map of the park, trails, parking spots, etc, that can be downloaded online? Or perhaps purchased at the entrance? And where IS the entrance? Also, are you sure that i can just park my car anywhere? Won't i get towed if i don't have a permit or something? Thanks!!



quote:
Originally posted by amb_
If you want something closer in the same region, I can refer you to a campground in the Haliburton Highlands (just south of Algonquin Provincial Park). 3 hour drive to Toronto and still most of the amenities in the area, including excellent restaurants. Mike Myers often dines at the Thai restaurant in Minden when he's up here during the summer.

The campground is under new management and from my experience dealing with them, are great people. Full service (showers, meals, etc.) available. I spoke to them yesterday and they still had many nice sites free for the weekend. PM me.


Thanks a lot for the offer, but i actually spent the last long weekend in a cottage in that same area, so i'd like to go someplace new this time around.


Posted by Sasha on Jun-29-2005 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by amb_
No.

Anyone who wishes to camp in a provincial park or in most private campgrounds requires a permit.

Camping on Crown Land in most areas is free for up to 21 days, for Canadian residents and non-resident landowners.



I dont know where did u get this info, but it's starnge

call
1 800-667-1940 Ministry of Natural Resources
or call me @ 1 800-ONTARIO


Posted by d!abolic on Jun-29-2005 23:41:

quote:
Originally posted by amb_
No.

Anyone who wishes to camp in a provincial park or in most private campgrounds requires a permit.

Camping on Crown Land in most areas is free for up to 21 days, for Canadian residents and non-resident landowners.


Alright, but what about what MarkT and cap have said about not needing one if i go to Algonquin? Will i be able to park and just find a spot for my tent somewhere? I don't wanna drive up 3 hours and get kicked out


Posted by amb_ on Jun-29-2005 23:54:

quote:
Originally posted by d!abolic
Thanks a lot for the offer, but i actually spent the last long weekend in a cottage in that same area, so i'd like to go someplace new this time around.


No problem. Thought I'd throw that out there.

quote:
Originally posted by niveole
I dont know where did u get this info, but it's starnge

call
1 800-667-1940 Ministry of Natural Resources
or call me @ 1 800-ONTARIO


Provincial Parks Act
quote:
Section 7.1 The Minister may establish and charge,

(a) fees for entrance into provincial parks of persons, vehicles, boats or aircraft;

(b) fees for the use of provincial parks or of any facilities or services in provincial parks; and

(c) fees and rentals for any licence, permit, lease or other right issued, made or given in respect of a provincial park. 1996, c. 14, s. 3 (2).


Ontario Parks Guide - p.37 (p.10 in the PDF) - http://ontarioparks.com/english/pdf/pg2005-20-45.pdf
quote:
Camping Fees
Ontario Parks offers everything from tent and trailer camping in organized campgrounds to wilderness campsites
accessible only by canoe. Fees for camping vary according to the facilities and services provided.
Ontario Parks has three levels of fees for camping – premium, middle and low. Each fee level reflects the popularity of a campsite and the availability of facilities such as flush toilets and showers, and personal services such as educational programs. Page 42 outlines your Internet and phone reservation payment options.
When registering in person at the park you may use your debit card, cash, VISA, MasterCard or American Express credit cards to pay for your camping fees. GST is included. Sorry, but personal cheques are not accepted for in-person payments.


Posted by Sasha on Jun-29-2005 23:56:

quote:
Originally posted by d!abolic
Alright, but what about what MarkT and cap have said about not needing one if i go to Algonquin? Will i be able to park and just find a spot for my tent somewhere? I don't wanna drive up 3 hours and get kicked out


If you are interested in backcountry/interior camping u will need to contact the park directly first. Their number is (705) 633 5572. U'll get your access point and route from them. After that u will have to call 1 (888) 668-7275 for reservation.

there is a $12 non refundable reservation fee
+ your fee per night is $9


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