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Posted by Nautilus on Jun-29-2005 22:29:

TA 2005 TOTY: 1st Half Nomination Thread OPEN

Hello fellow TAs. Now that June is over we all find ourselves halfway through another year, which has been filled with fantastic releases from all our favorite DJs and producers. In order to avoid a problem that we had with last year�s TOTY voting I, with the blessings of the TA moderators, am starting the voting process that will give tracks from the first half of the year equal consideration as the tracks from the second half.

The search for our 2005 TOTY will go as follows:

1st Half of 2005
Everyone is instructed to vote for their top 10 tracks from the first half of this year. Make sure these tracks were released within this time period. If you are afraid of selecting something that was released in June, but you feel won�t receive the attention, thus votes, that it would say in the 2nd half of the year, vote for it anyways. You have plenty of votes and you can always vote for that borderline track again in the 2nd nomination period.

Per the Mods, nominations that have various remixes will be considered one song. For example, if someone votes for Hammer & Bennett - Language (Santiago Ni�o Dub Tech Mix) and someone else votes for Hammer & Bennett - Language (Original Mix) these tracks will be considered to be Hammer & Bennett - Lanuague.

Please clearly define your order of preference as these votes will be weighted to determine the most popular tracks. Please follow this example:

1 Artist � Song
2 Artist � Song
3 Artist � Song
4 Artist - Song
5 Artist � Song
6 Artist � Song
7 Artist � Song
8 Artist - Song
9 Artist - Song
10 Artist - Song

If you fail to clearly indicate your order of preference then it will be assumed that the first track is your first choice, the second track is your second, and so on and so forth.

The point system goes as follows:

1st selection = 10 points, 2nd = 9, 3rd = 8, 4th = 7, 5th = 6, 6th = 5, 7th = 4, 8th = 3, 9th = 2, and 10th = 1.

The 16 (sixteen) tracks with the most nomination points will represent the 1st half of 2005. They will be joined by the 16 2nd half nominations in the Final Polls.

Please vote only once. You can change your selections by editing your original post. This thread will remain open until mid-August. The 2nd half thread should open in December.


Posted by Palladium on Jun-29-2005 22:37:

above & beyo......just kidding hehe

we are still at the half of the year and starts the TOTY thread...cool

have a question...we'll can nominate unreleased tracks heard on samples, sets or wahtever...even if they gonna be released at the end of the year ??


Posted by Nautilus on Jun-29-2005 22:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Palladium
above & beyo......just kidding hehe

we are still at the half of the year and starts the TOTY thread...cool

have a question...we'll can nominate unreleased tracks heard on samples, sets or wahtever...even if they gonna be released at the end of the year ??


vote for it in both halves. once there is a clear determination as to where the track belongs just remove the track from one of your halves and replace it with something else


Posted by JasonThomas on Jun-29-2005 22:58:

So what's the verdict of the counting of remixes. I think there needs to be a distinction between remixes of songs, but some remixes can be put together here is my solution from the other thread:

quote:
I think that it should come down to the artist.

Example:
blank & jones - the perfect silence (original & club mix both by blank & jones)
blank & jones - the perfect silence (perry o'neil mix)
blank & jones - the perfect silence (martin roth mix)
blank & jones - the perfect silence (e-craig mix and dub)

These four should be separate because they are differen't artists, and the original and club mix done by b&j should be together cause it's the same artist. Get it?

So like these mixes should be separate:

niklas harding - butterfly effect (original)
niklas harding - butterfly effect (lucas and beltram remix)
niklas harding - butterfly effect (hydroid remix)

because they all sound different ofcourse, but more importantly, they are all done by differen't artists.

but these mixes should be put together:

perasma - swing to harmony (gabriel and dresden dub mix)
perasma - swing to harmony (gabriel and dresden vocal mix)

because they sound almost the same except one is more vocal, but again more importantly, they are done by the same artist.

ok?

once again..

These..
martin roth's hands on keane - this is the last time (martin roth dub remix)
martin roth's hands on keane - this is the last time (martin roth vocal remix)
should be put together.

and these..
luminary - my world (andy moor remix)
luminary - my world (arksun remix)
luminary - my world (hydroid remix)
luminary - my world (nikola gala remix)
should be separate.


Maybe this would require too much work but I think it's the only fair way to go. Because I may vote for the Hydroid remix of My World, but I HATE all the other remixes (well mostly the Andy Moor one) and I definately don't want my vote to go towards them.


Posted by tribu on Jun-30-2005 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by djmetatron

Maybe this would require too much work but I think it's the only fair way to go. Because I may vote for the Hydroid remix of My World, but I HATE all the other remixes (well mostly the Andy Moor one) and I definately don't want my vote to go towards them.


So we should alter the voting strategy to fit your tastes and desires? Thats pretty hubristic.


Posted by Nautilus on Jun-30-2005 00:09:

quote:
Originally posted by djmetatron
So what's the verdict of the counting of remixes. I think there needs to be a distinction between remixes of songs, but some remixes can be put together here is my solution from the other thread:



Maybe this would require too much work but I think it's the only fair way to go. Because I may vote for the Hydroid remix of My World, but I HATE all the other remixes (well mostly the Andy Moor one) and I definitely don't want my vote to go towards them.


Your recommendation makes sense. Remixes by someone other than the artist will be considered a totally individual track. But for tracks that are minutely different like

quote:

perasma - swing to harmony (gabriel and dresden dub mix)
perasma - swing to harmony (gabriel and dresden vocal mix)


we will ask our fellow TAs (in a poll or in an MD thread) to decide on the points placement if we run into this problem in the actual voting


Posted by JasonThomas on Jun-30-2005 00:39:

quote:
Originally posted by tribu
So we should alter the voting strategy to fit your tastes and desires? Thats pretty hubristic.


I just think it's the fairest way to go. Especially to the artists. That last little bit was just a personal example. If you don't think it's a good way to go that's fine. But it's hardly a hubristic request.

And btw I don't even think you used hubrism in the right context. Hubrism refers to arrogance in actions not desires. It's often used in greek myths to describe a certain character that has gone to far with their desires not simply desired something.

Or can be used to describe the US's government actions as of late.


Posted by xtractorfan on Jun-30-2005 00:43:

Will you be able to nominate less than 10 tracks?


Posted by Dan1584 on Jun-30-2005 01:10:

I would suggest NOT including specific remixes. I think that if you nominate a track it should sitll be all inclusive of the remixes as well.


Posted by tribu on Jun-30-2005 02:35:

quote:
Originally posted by djmetatron
I just think it's the fairest way to go. Especially to the artists. That last little bit was just a personal example. If you don't think it's a good way to go that's fine. But it's hardly a hubristic request.

And btw I don't even think you used hubrism in the right context. Hubrism refers to arrogance in actions not desires. It's often used in greek myths to describe a certain character that has gone to far with their desires not simply desired something.

Or can be used to describe the US's government actions as of late.


If I was right in assuming you wanted the rules to change due to your desires, I think it can be considered acceptable, but I was stretching for lack of a word in quick thought.

I understand the purpose of doing this, but this could lead to some pretty unfavorable matchups, such as two or three mixes of the same song facing off against each other.

However, in retrospect, its not a bad idea. Depending on how things work out we may not see any duplicates, or we may see a glut of one song. I think its probably worth trying.


Posted by nchs09 on Jun-30-2005 02:56:

as the rush comes!!!!


Posted by Nautilus on Jun-30-2005 06:17:

quote:
Originally posted by xtractorfan
Will you be able to nominate less than 10 tracks?


if you want to, yes


Posted by JasonThomas on Jun-30-2005 09:54:

quote:
Originally posted by tribu
I understand the purpose of doing this, but this could lead to some pretty unfavorable matchups, such as two or three mixes of the same song facing off against each other.


I don't see the problem with this, if the mixes are different enough we should definately give each it's own separate chance.

Honestly I could give a shit about this poll. It doesn't affect me. But I do like to see artists get rightful praise and support. I am not one to shun artists or songs for being popular. On the contrary, I like it when they are popular and become successful. I like to see success in anything, even if I may not like the particular track, if I think it came from a geniune place, I will give it respect for reaching the amount of people that it did. And this takes me to why I think differentiating the mixes is important. If one of the particular mixes is the more popular of the song. It stands out from the rest, the artist who did the remix should be given credit. Not just the the original artist, but the remixer. I see the remixer as the true artist of the song. Just because he did a rework of a song already in existence does not make his work less respectful. Because, really everything is a rework of something else. Everything has been done before a million differen't ways and what we appreciate is how a certain individual has made it his own.


Posted by Coup on Jun-30-2005 10:05:

both myself and swamper have approved this. this thread will be stuck and u can commence nominations. multiply remixes will go down as one track.

enjoy.


Posted by JasonThomas on Jun-30-2005 10:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
multiply remixes will go down as one track.


..ugh


Posted by Coup on Jun-30-2005 11:08:

quote:
Originally posted by djmetatron
..ugh

i understand ur point dont get me wrong, but we have limited placws available for tracks and it would be abit silly if we lost 3 places to the same track just a different remix, even if the remixes sound totally different - we have to draw the line somewhere.

imagine a final with 10 tracks and 4 were the same track, just a different remix.

i understand ur point and if we doubled the size of this opperation (which believe me the work involved in this already is insane) we could seperate remixes, but unfortunately we have to draw the line somewhere.


Posted by JasonThomas on Jun-30-2005 11:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
i understand ur point dont get me wrong, but we have limited placws available for tracks and it would be abit silly if we lost 3 places to the same track just a different remix, even if the remixes sound totally different - we have to draw the line somewhere.

imagine a final with 10 tracks and 4 were the same track, just a different remix.

i understand ur point and if we doubled the size of this opperation (which believe me the work involved in this already is insane) we could seperate remixes, but unfortunately we have to draw the line somewhere.


ok then, i can imagin the work involved here. I don't see it actually happening where many mixes of the same track make it to the final vote. But if the extra work doesnt warrant it then I have no problem. good luck with the endeavor and thanks.


Posted by PEZ68 on Jun-30-2005 11:53:

would be great if results (each top10) are kept secret before the end of the first nomination (to avoid overhyped tracks for example)


Posted by noikeee on Jun-30-2005 15:33:

Ah, and another reason for In Silence not winning that particular poll, that vote was started already in 2005 (i don't remember perfectly but i believe the TOTY vote started before), and kept going for a couple months, it seems natural that people would have gotten already tired of it as it seems it was a bit overplayed.


Posted by noikeee on Jun-30-2005 15:42:

edited:

1. John Dahlback - Sugar (All You Need) (Original Mix)
2. Humate - Breed (Summer of 89 Remix)
3. Holden & Thompson - Come To Me (Original Mix)
4. Vince Watson - Maya
5. Jerome and Jamie Anderson - Rotated
6. Petter - Untitled Acid
7. Zvukbroda - BR
8. Zvukbroda - TS
9. Coburn - We Interrupt This Program
10. Jeff Samuel - Endpoint

it'd be strange to see even one of these apart from Holden's and Petter's tracks on the final poll, but i can atleast hope


Posted by Nautilus on Jun-30-2005 19:53:

1 Jonas Steur - Castamara
2 Hammer & Bennett - Language
3 Solid Globe - Lost Cities
4 Bakke & Ljungqvist - Fanatic
5 Malgosia - Malgosia The Theme
6 David West - Larry Mountains 54
7 Synergy - Hello Strings
8 Locust - Aerospace
9 Solar Factor - Global Getaways
10 Peter McCown - N.E.T. (Not Enough Time)


Posted by TOR on Jun-30-2005 20:53:

this is going to be a tough choice
let's see...

01. Phynn � Lucid
02. Jonas Steur � Castamara
03. Van Gelder � Everywhere
04. Jochen Miller � India (Dub)
05. Terry Grant feat. Jennifer Horner - I'll Kill You (John Debo Remix)
06. Sunquest � Daybreak
07. Signum - Back At Ya
08. Leon Bolier pres. Inner Stories � Beyond
09. M.I.K.E. � Massive Motion (Enter Ku Remix)
10. D-fuse feat. Jes � Living the Dream (Matthew Dekay Dub)


damnit i had to leave out a lot of great tracks.. it's been an awesome year so far


Posted by CygnusX on Jun-30-2005 21:14:

1.Perasma - Swing 2 Harmony (Deserves An Effort Symphony Dub Mix)
2.Motorcycle - Around You (Gabriel & Dresden Mix)
3.Gabriel & Dresden - Portobello
4.Tektonik^ - Shine (DBA Remix)
5.Synergy - Hello Strings
6.Lennox - Servants Of Justice (Alex M.O.R.P.H. Remix)
7.Jonas Steur - Silent Waves
8.Phynn - Lucid
9.Jonas Steur - Castamara
10.Purple Haze - Adrenaline


Posted by Jasperovitsj on Jun-30-2005 21:34:

1. Terry Grant feat. Jennifer Horne - I'll kill you (Original mix/Chable mix)
2. Son Kite - Focus (Shiloh mx)
3. Cassino & Laben - leaving panic behind (Flash Brothers remix)
4. The Proluctors - Star track
5. Monkz - I want to see the sun
6. Naveen G - Dura (Original mix)
7. Ashtrax - Something to get through
8. The Killers - Mr brightside (Thin White Duke remix)
9. Echomen - Womb (Original mix)
10. Gabriel & Dresden - Arcadia (Swing to funk mix)


Posted by Elior on Jun-30-2005 21:42:

1. Africanism All Stars - Summer Moon (Fuck Me I'm Famous Remix)
2. Usher - Caught Up (Sander Kleinenbergs Caught Up In The Club Mix)
3. Bush II Bush - Piano Track (Original Mix)
4. Tremendo - Bang (Original Mix)
5. Steve Lawler ft. Za Za La Boom - Illectronic Music (Vocal Mix)
6. Blaze vs. Barbara Tucker - Most Precious Love (Martin Solveig Re-Edit)
7. Martin C. - Straight Outta Stokey
8. Marco V - More Than A Life Away (Original Mix)
9. Joachim Garraud and Julien Creance - Acid Beat (Original Mix)
10. Underground Movement - Shake (Rene Amesz Edit)

cooool


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