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Posted by generic on Jul-03-2005 21:01:

cdj 800s or final scratch

im gonna get my first dj setup and am looking at getting cd decks or final scratch...or even ssl...

problem is im on a budget...the cdj 800s have only 0.05% pitch increments, cant afford the 1000s and dont like the 200s.
ive also heard some issues regarding latency with final scratch or ssl.

so my question is, which of these would get you the best accuracy for beatmatching?

thanks


Posted by Basstard on Jul-03-2005 22:39:

well if beat matchin is ur main concern then latency shouldnt even be an issue with ya.

the latency is not noticable when FS or SSL is configured properly anyway.

from my own experience the accuracy of the pitch with SSL will depend greatly on ur own turntables


Posted by generic on Jul-03-2005 23:50:

i dont have a nice laptop
i forgot to mention, i would be getting a set of technics 1210s specifically for fs or ssl.

my main concern is that the 0.05% pitch increments aren't accurate enough on the cdj 800s..


Posted by RJT on Jul-04-2005 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
They are fine, I use a CDJ-800 and I have had no problems.


+1 - Learn to make the corrections and you're fine... All this ribble rabble about how .05% pitch adjustment sucks is, as far as I'm concerned, a load of shit...


Posted by Ygrene on Jul-04-2005 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
They are fine, I use a CDJ-800 and I have had no problems.


quote:
Originally posted by DJ RJT
+1 - Learn to make the corrections and you're fine... All this ribble rabble about how .05% pitch adjustment sucks is, as far as I'm concerned, a load of shit...


+2

And even if it does drift, corrections are a piece o' cake.


Posted by djkoolaide on Jul-04-2005 05:58:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RJT
Learn to make the corrections and you're fine... All this ribble rabble about how .05% pitch adjustment sucks is, as far as I'm concerned, a load of shit...


+1

It's all about knowing how to use your equipment.. I have CD decks with .1% pitch and I can mix perfectly. I know it's hard to believe but practice can take you a long way


Posted by alligator on Jul-04-2005 17:04:

you mention you're on a buget, so getting ssl, 2xtt (tech 1200) plus a good enough laptop will be pretty expensive don't you think?

it depends on what you like to mix with, the cdj's are awesome, (my opinion), yes i've noticed they don't keep in synk for very long (compared to tt) but with practice i've manage to keep song in synk for longer than a minute...


Posted by Zild on Jul-04-2005 18:18:

If you go with SSL or FS2 you will be able to spin VINYL and digital files. Is there a reason you want to start off on CDJs or FS instead of going the traditional way?


Posted by generic on Jul-04-2005 20:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
FS is shit and I am speaking from experience.


I've seen you express your disgust at FS in a couple of other threads, mind telling me what kind of problems you had with it?
I could use FS 1.5 (dont have firewire), which along with a set of technics (second hand) would be cheaper than a second set of cdj-800s


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jul-05-2005 05:21:

quote:
Originally posted by generic
i dont have a nice laptop
i forgot to mention, i would be getting a set of technics 1210s specifically for fs or ssl.

my main concern is that the 0.05% pitch increments aren't accurate enough on the cdj 800s..


wouldn't buying a pair of techs along with SSL be just as expensive as getting two cdj-1000's??

i was seriously thinking about selling my decks and getting cdj's instead. why? they're more compact, digital downloads are starting to become the norm, you can rip all of your vinyl to cd, downloaded singles are cheaper, vinyl is expensive, cdj's are commonly used... there's tons of reasons to get cd decks. don't let the tech12 elitists fool you, especially when the 800's and 1000's have the platter..

if you were to get SSL.. think about what you'd have to lug with you to a gig. a laptop, the ssl interface, both your decks, your mixer, probably some records to mix it up a bit... that's a lot of shit. if you get cdj's, you bring your cdjs and your mixer. and a cd case.


Posted by alligator on Jul-05-2005 17:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
wouldn't buying a pair of techs along with SSL be just as expensive as getting two cdj-1000's??

i was seriously thinking about selling my decks and getting cdj's instead. why? they're more compact, digital downloads are starting to become the norm, you can rip all of your vinyl to cd, downloaded singles are cheaper, vinyl is expensive, cdj's are commonly used... there's tons of reasons to get cd decks. don't let the tech12 elitists fool you, especially when the 800's and 1000's have the platter..

if you were to get SSL.. think about what you'd have to lug with you to a gig. a laptop, the ssl interface, both your decks, your mixer, probably some records to mix it up a bit... that's a lot of shit. if you get cdj's, you bring your cdjs and your mixer. and a cd case.


i think you pretty much sumed it up, although all the tt lovers will go balistics ...


Posted by mndeg on Jul-10-2005 07:48:

yeah but with two cdjs and a mixer and one cd you would look like a big noob

lol


Posted by Cosmic Realm on Jul-10-2005 08:49:

ummm.... almost ALL clubs have they're own set up... and if he wants to use SSL then let him hed just need his laptop, and his SSL setup...

and with CDJ's they use digital media just like SSL..

but ima keep my mouth shut about the whole digital media though


Posted by Basstard on Jul-10-2005 17:53:

plus it aint like the 1000s will fit in ur pockets or anything - they'd still be as much a nuisance (sp?) as carryin a pair of tts.


Posted by alligator on Jul-11-2005 23:18:

i think it's up to each one to decide one's medium of mixing...plus your talent and skills should do the talk for you...not your choice between cdj's or tt's...

with ssl and final scratch your music won't be as expensive...since you need mp3, and they are cheaper than a record

either way...good luck and hope you will be satisfied with your choice



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