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Posted by astateofitaly on Jul-07-2005 10:20:

terror in london

7 July 2005
TUBE BLASTS BRING DEATH AND CHAOS TO RUSH-HOUR LONDON
By Steve Purcell
Explosions on the London underground have brought death and chaos to the capital this morning.

Several people are reported to have been killed or injured and the whole of the Tube network was shut down just before 9am, at the height of the rush hour.

There were also reports of three explosions on buses around London.

British Transport Police said power surges had caused explosions at Aldgate, Edgware Road, King's Cross, Old Street and Russell Square.


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However, other unconfirmed reports said the scale of the explosions appeared more like a terrorist incident.


Scotland Yard confirmed there had been an explosion on a bus in Tavistock Place, near Russell Square, leaving the bus ripped apart. A spokesman said police were at the scene and attempting to determine what had happened.


Emergency services were called to London's Liverpool Street Station after reports of an explosion shortly before 9am.


Passengers were seen emerging from tunnels covered in soot an blood. Scotand Yard declared the incident a "major emergency."


Home Secretary Charles Clarke said there had been "terrible injuries" and the government were assessing the situation. He said the police had very well established procedures in place to deal with the emergency and urged people not to travel into or around the capital.


British Transport Police confirmed that there are "walking wounded" and said paramedics have responded to one report of a person classed as "life at risk".


"There are walking wounded, but that is as much as we know at the moment," said the spokesman.


"All we know at the moment is that staff reported a loud bang at 8.49am.


"No one is sure what caused an explosion, but it is thought it could have been a collision, a power cut, or a power cable problem."


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Posted by Yoepus on Jul-07-2005 11:43:

More updates:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...in_explosion_21

6 Explosions - 2 confirmed dead alreaady.

Casualty count looks pretty low so far.
Lets hope it stays this way.


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-07-2005 11:49:

Its 7 explosions confirmed now - 6 at tube stations and one on a bus


Posted by DJ Andy B on Jul-07-2005 11:52:

The Count is now seven explosions in total.

All london undergroud services have been suspended and all buses going to Zone 1 in london have also been suspended.

Let us hope that this is the end of this horrific incident, and let our thourghts go out to the people who have been injured and also to the people who will not be comming home tonight !!!


Posted by Yoepus on Jul-07-2005 11:54:

London's cam system might come in handy.

One bus's top has been reportedly blown "right off"



Obviously people are already talking about the connection the Olympics.

However, I think the connection is more obvious to the G8 summit which the UK is hosting. Security is no doubt overwhelmning in Scotland, so the terrorst as they do, attack the soft spot.


Posted by Yoepus on Jul-07-2005 11:58:

Europeans markets got shot up:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/bus...on-Markets.html

Will probably be a bad day for Wall Street as well.

Washington has gone on higher alert: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nat...Explosions.html

BBC.co.uk has trouble coping with the traffic.

Site of attacks:


Posted by NYCTrancefan on Jul-07-2005 12:19:

I can't even connect to BBC Yoepus, logjam, managed to do so on Al-Jazeera only to see commentaries justifying the attacks as payback for Iraq, hmm surprise, surprise


Posted by Yoepus on Jul-07-2005 12:26:

quote:
Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
I can't even connect to BBC Yoepus, logjam, managed to do so on Al-Jazeera only to see commentaries justifying the attacks as payback for Iraq, hmm surprise, surprise


Yup - cellular networks also report difficulty in London.

Vondaphone has given prioritie to emergency service on its network leaving many people with busy signals.


Posted by Dupz on Jul-07-2005 12:42:

Just heard on the local news that a European branch of Al-Qaeda has claimed responsibility, while rumour has it that the simultaneity of the attacks points to an organised 'terrorist' network.


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-07-2005 12:42:

I'm not having any problems with the BBC site

As for al-Jazeera what are you talking about commentaries justifying this attack? I checked it and it says nothing of the sort

Anyway, latest from the BBC TV news (website is slower to add new developments) says an Islamist website (used by al-Qaida) has claimed responsibility saying it was for Iraq and Afghanistan and has warned Italy and Denmark to expect similar


Posted by NYCTrancefan on Jul-07-2005 13:16:

quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
I'm not having any problems with the BBC site

As for al-Jazeera what are you talking about commentaries justifying this attack? I checked it and it says nothing of the sort

Anyway, latest from the BBC TV news (website is slower to add new developments) says an Islamist website (used by al-Qaida) has claimed responsibility saying it was for Iraq and Afghanistan and has warned Italy and Denmark to expect similar


Well the BBC site is working now, looks slightly wierd however on the homepage layout from its normal look.

The Al Jazeera website I am referring to is http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=8876 not the english.aljazeera.net/HomePage one. In the commentary section under the story of the explosion you have readers responding saying they got what they deserved, etc, etc. That is expected however if history is any precedent. The site is slow as ever so takes a long time to load. Amazingly the commentaries have now been disabled until Saturday 11am. Wonder why.


Posted by Yoepus on Jul-07-2005 13:26:

Death toll reported at 40 now by US official and 300 injured:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...itain_explosion

Israel Media reports death toll of 12 more than 300 injured.


Posted by trancaholic on Jul-07-2005 13:42:

quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Anyway, latest from the BBC TV news (website is slower to add new developments) says an Islamist website (used by al-Qaida) has claimed responsibility saying it was for Iraq and Afghanistan and has warned Italy and Denmark to expect similar

Apparently "experts" are still sceptical to this website (saw that on a danish news site).


But bad news to wake up to. Yesterday London was partying because of getting the olympics, and now this. Crazy world.


Posted by Dupz on Jul-07-2005 13:43:

Such a disappointment... 12 confirmed dead, dozen are critically injured. Madness..

I think there's a common consensus that this world has gone mad, but I've been thinking about when did this world decide to turn on its head and go nuts??? I only noticed that something's out of place back in about 1996-7, but that was in my adolesent years where I began to lose my innocence (for various reasons that I wont get into right now ) and come of age, but bands like Rage Against The Machine have been singing about a fuct up world for many a year before then... Where did it all begin, and obviously when will it all end??


Posted by Shizane2002 on Jul-07-2005 13:45:

Thats a vast question.

People will have so many different beliefs as to when shit starting going downhill.


Posted by TheNobleEu on Jul-07-2005 13:57:

Report: Islamic group claims responsibilty

Canadian Press

Thursday, July 07, 2005

CAIRO, Egypt -- A group calling itself "The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe" has posted a claim of responsibility for the series of blasts in London, saying they were in retaliation for Britain's involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The statement was published on a website popular with Islamic militants, according to Der Spiegel magazine in Berlin, which republished the text on its own website.

"Rejoice, Islamic nation. Rejoice, Arab world. The time has come for vengeance against the Zionist crusader government of Britain in response to the massacres Britain committed in Iraq and Afghanistan," said the statement, which was translated by The Associated Press in Cairo.

The authenticity of the message could not be immediately confirmed.

"The heroic mujahedeen carried out a blessed attack in London, and now Britain is burning with fear and terror, from north to south, east to west," the statement said.

"We warned the British government repeated. We have carried out our promise and carried out a military attack in Britain after great efforts by the heroic mujahedeen over a long period to ensure its success."

"We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all crusader governments that they will receive the same punishment if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan," the statement went on.

It was signed: "The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe."


*****

Graphic: where the blasts hit.


London Underground bombing targets.

-Noble


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-07-2005 14:01:

quote:
Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
Well the BBC site is working now, looks slightly wierd however on the homepage layout from its normal look.

The Al Jazeera website I am referring to is http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=8876 not the english.aljazeera.net/HomePage one. In the commentary section under the story of the explosion you have readers responding saying they got what they deserved, etc, etc. That is expected however if history is any precedent. The site is slow as ever so takes a long time to load. Amazingly the commentaries have now been disabled until Saturday 11am. Wonder why.

Maybe cos alJazeera is not as biased as you are told to believe?


Posted by Dupz on Jul-07-2005 14:21:

quote:
Originally posted by TheNobleEu
Report: Islamic group claims responsibilty

Canadian Press

Thursday, July 07, 2005

CAIRO, Egypt -- A group calling itself "The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe" has posted a claim of responsibility for the series of blasts in London, saying they were in retaliation for Britain's involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The statement was published on a website popular with Islamic militants, according to Der Spiegel magazine in Berlin, which republished the text on its own website.

"Rejoice, Islamic nation. Rejoice, Arab world. The time has come for vengeance against the Zionist crusader government of Britain in response to the massacres Britain committed in Iraq and Afghanistan," said the statement, which was translated by The Associated Press in Cairo.

The authenticity of the message could not be immediately confirmed.

"The heroic mujahedeen carried out a blessed attack in London, and now Britain is burning with fear and terror, from north to south, east to west," the statement said.

"We warned the British government repeated. We have carried out our promise and carried out a military attack in Britain after great efforts by the heroic mujahedeen over a long period to ensure its success."

"We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all crusader governments that they will receive the same punishment if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan," the statement went on.

It was signed: "The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe."


*****

Graphic: where the blasts hit.


London Underground bombing targets.

-Noble


It has always amazed me how such people seem so comfortable in justifying blatant murder, while proclaiming to be righteous in their cause...

My natural instincts tell me to get angry and emotional over this situation, while a notion of common sense keeps the balance of logic and emotion in check. I feel so frustrated, not directly because of emotions tied to this attack, but because I feel helpless in that I cannot rectify the problem and bring an end to this vicious cycle of hatred.


Posted by trancaholic on Jul-07-2005 14:28:

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/...1188265,00.html

At least 45 dead and 1000 wounded. This sounds to me like the description of chaos. I guess that death toll will be going up during the day. When Madrid was hit, the numbers also started low and increased as the extend of the disaster became clear.


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-07-2005 14:28:

There were four explosions, 26 confirmed dead with fatalities confirmed at one of the other sites but number not confirmed. Thats from the live media report from the police

The reason we got reports of 7 is because the explosions did not happen at stations (or some of them didn't) but went of on trains between stations


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-07-2005 14:29:

Here the map with the four locations


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-07-2005 14:30:

It now says more than 33 fatalities confirmed


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Jul-07-2005 14:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
However, I think the connection is more obvious to the G8 summit which the UK is hosting. Security is no doubt overwhelmning in Scotland, so the terrorst as they do, attack the soft spot.


I agree. It seems to have been a long planned attack that just waited for the opportunity and security to loosen in order to be carried out. It seems to be too big to be carried out by anyone else except islamic militants.


Posted by NYCTrancefan on Jul-07-2005 14:43:

quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Maybe cos alJazeera is not as biased as you are told to believe?


You seem to have me mistaken, so let me clarify, I am not accusing Al Jazeera of anything but rather was commenting on the posts that were made by those readers who read the story and submitted a statement afterwards. In no way did I assert that AlJazeera was making such statements but rather the readers of AlJazeera, got it. No one has to lead me or tell me to believe anything, I read more than enough news sources from around the world to formulate an opinion. If you have seen my posts on here in the past that would be apparent.


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-07-2005 15:04:

quote:
Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
You seem to have me mistaken, so let me clarify, I am not accusing Al Jazeera of anything but rather was commenting on the posts that were made by those readers who read the story and submitted a statement afterwards. In no way did I assert that AlJazeera was making such statements but rather the readers of AlJazeera, got it. No one has to lead me or tell me to believe anything, I read more than enough news sources from around the world to formulate an opinion. If you have seen my posts on here in the past that would be apparent.

Ok sorry, it just seemed like you were criticising al-Jazeera so I was mistaken (and it's not very often you'll here those words leave my lips so you should be honoured! )


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